Yes, Blame China for the Virus

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. It wasn't discovered on the 30th. It was discovered in january!
    My source says about 30th december...

    On 30 December he sent a message to fellow doctors in a chat group warning them about the outbreak and advising they wear protective clothing to avoid infection. What Dr Li didn't know then was that the disease that had been discovered was an entirely new coronavirus.
     
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    That says... "The likelihood that the Chinese government is hiding the real number of coronavirus cases...."
    That's just making things up with no clue. Good source!

    That says ... "Boris Johnson (who has COVID-19 now) saying there would be ramifications for China failing to share how they stopped the virus from spreading."

    We know how they stopped it. They did a complete lock down. They said so.
    We saw all the factories close shop FROM SPACE. The smog disappeared!
     
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    I use facts. You're using fake news from a pro Trump point of view.

    And is that all you got to say about the lies of Donald from march 9?
    Pathetic
     
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    ok...we will go with that...the virus wasn't even discovered until Jan...wow...Trump took really quick action then
     
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    you haven't used one fact yet...you have used Chinese lies. Now the Boston Globe and Forbes are fake news...wow...the Chinese lies are strong with you
     
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    Yep...the Boston Globe and Forbes are fake news now....
     
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    "“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,” Biden continued."

    Biden called him xenophobic in commenting on the travel restrictions and that he was fear mongering and hysteria and had Biden been President I have no reason to believe he would have taken those proper measures.
     
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    And another of their leading doctors who recently tried to get the truth out has gone missing yet the leftist trying to blame Trump still defend China.
     
  9. notme

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    So much for your story of the Chinese were covering it up that knew this sooner.
    That's just right wing fake news.

    Also...
    China went for a full lock down in januari 20th.
    The US still hasn't done that. And the lock downs in place have been done by the GOVERNORS... Donald didn't do crap. He was still tweeting in march that with 22, compared to up to 90,000 with your average flu,.. think about how insignificant this is and all that. That is Donald denying how dangerous it is, buddy. Donald even approved that 2 airplanes full of Americans from -of all places- Wuhan get back to the US in February when it was banned by him in January.

    I haven't used Chinese lies. I used an Arab source. Their placed that data of how it went down. Them are the facts at hand.
    Get over it.

    Boston doesn't claim they can prove there is a cover up. They are only keeping that possibility open.
    Forbes is quoting a British politician, which isn't the opinion of Forbes as far as I can tell.

    You're not very honest on this. That, or your reading skills aint good enough.
     
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    You dismiss facts out of hand.
     
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    They did know it sooner, and lied...the fact remains though...under your theory though...to believe it, you'd have to admit that Trump acted much quicker

    Yes, we are a Socialist dictatorship...we don't have the Feds issuing national lock downs...all the States aren't the same and dealing with the same problems.

    Yes, the President brought Americans home, and wasn't going to let them get stuck in Socialist China. You act like that's a bad thing.

    You use souses repeating Chinese lies.

    The fact remains, we can't trust Socialist China at all: https://time.com/5813628/china-coronavirus-statistics-wuhan/

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    If you believe the Chinese authorities, the country’s battle against the novel coronavirus is all but won. But that claim is clouded by a fog of skewed data, political imperatives—and unreported cases and possibly deaths.

    After several days of trumpeting just a handful of new COVID-19 cases, on Wednesday China once again switched up exactly what that means, and included asymptomatic infections of the coronavirus in its official statistics for the first time. The move follows criticism from health experts and the U.S. and other governments that it risked a resurgence of the deadly pandemic by downplaying the number of cases within its borders."

    The deaths, economic shutdown, illnesses from the Chinese Virus, all belong to the Chinese Govt. and the Chinese puppets who's strings that pull...like Joe Biden

    It was the eighth different definition of what constitutes a COVID-19 infection in China’s official statistics since the outbreak began in late December, with critics arguing that the lack of clarity has made it harder for other nations to adequately understand and prepare for the disease.
     
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    Nope. I sourced my things.
     
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    You dismiss the facts presented out of hand.
     
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    I sourced from an non biased Arab/UK source that the Chinese authorities were told about this on december 30th. The Chinese authorities reported this the next day to the WHO. So nope... didn't know it sooner.

    lock downs are in place in some states. Governors did that on their own responsibility, without the approval and without the recommendation by Donald. Hence Donald gets no credit for containing the virus and not letting it out of control. He did nothing!

    Getting something like 700 people who potentially got Corona in the US, when the testing took ages and weren't that good.... yeah... thumps up like Lynndie England


    Not seeing any problem in giving definitions and how that translate in numbers.
    That people have a hard time tracking 8 different definitions with the numbers... boohoo.
    They don't speak English down there, remember. They got their own methods in Chinese, and on high level technical issues it becomes harder to be translate things precisely what is meant between languages. This aint no, the butcher is on the left side... translation problem.

    Not seeing any cover up with this.
     
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    1. untrue
    2.as they should, the President should leave it up the the individual States....that's the smart move.
    3. we don't leave Americans do die in Socialist hell holes
    4. Yes, the Chinese keep lying. It's making it difficult for the world to respond to the Chinese Virus.
     
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    Its posts like this that make me think half of the "progressive" members here are paid propagandists. You guys are gaslighting on an impressive scale. You post garbage that blatantly flies in the face of events that have just happened. Not only has China lied since the beginning but they continue to lie, right up to this very moment, about their current number of new infections and fatality rates.

    There WERE some physicians held and China's definition of "starting a panic" is being honest with your fellow doctors about what you are seeing in the field and wanting to warn the world. The very fact that since the news broke and facts made their way into the world, the Chinese government has decorated this particular doctor and apologized to his family...posthumously of course.
     
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    CHINA LIED, PEOPLE DIED: China's Responsible

    Holding China accountable is needed to protect against future pandemics.

    The Chinese government’s reprehensible response to the early outbreak of the pandemic there:

    China knew of the seriousness of the pandemic as early as December, yet waited weeks to begin restricting travel, allowing millions of Wuhan residents to visit relatives elsewhere in the country and abroad for Lunar New Year celebrations, spreading the virus as they went. British scientists have argued that if Beijing had acted just three weeks earlier, it could have reduced the spread of the virus by 95 percent.

    In the time before the outbreak’s seriousness became apparent outside China, the CCP destroyed laboratory samples and punished the brave doctors and citizens who tried to warn their countrymen and the world about the pathogen, while refusing foreign offers of help. Beijing dramatically underreported the number of deaths in Wuhan, and is no longer reporting new infections in China.

    China was morally bound, as a party to the 2005 International Health Regulations, to

    “provide expedited, timely, accurate, and sufficiently detailed information to the World Health Organization about potential public health emergencies”
    such as the Wuhan coronavirus. Instead, the Red Chinese actively misled the WHO about the crucial fact that the pathogen is transmitted between humans.

    China is even reopening some of its “wet markets.”
     
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    As of Jan11th, the following entities collaborated to develop a vaccine candidate, thus, knew Covid19 was a serious threat.

    1. the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), Co-fonder; Bill Gates' Foundation
    2. Moderna Inc., main partner; Bill Gates' Foundation
    3. The National Institutes of Health (NIH), Trump's disease prevention AGENCY

    Moderna’s Work on a Potential Vaccine Against COVID-19

    Timeline of our response through March 30, 2020

    • On January 11, 2020, the Chinese authorities shared the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus.
    • On January 13, 2020, the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Moderna’s infectious disease research team finalized the sequence for mRNA-1273, the Company’s vaccine against the novel coronavirus. At that time, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of NIH, disclosed their intent to run a Phase 1 study using the mRNA-1273 vaccine in response to the coronavirus threat and Moderna mobilized toward clinical manufacture. Manufacture of this batch was funded by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI).
    • On February 7, 2020, the first clinical batch, including fill and finishing of vials, was completed, a total of 25 days from sequence selection to vaccine manufacture. The batch then proceeded to analytical testing for release.
    • On February 24, 2020, the clinical batch was shipped from Moderna to the NIH for use in their Phase 1 clinical study.
    https://www.modernatx.com/

    ONCE AGAIN, as of Jan 11th, the above-mentioned entities knew Covid was a serious threat, and most likely, Trump also knew.
     
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    So now you admit that the US has to depend on "3rd world hell holes"?

    What a disgrace for the so-called sole superpower!

    Should Trump impose tariffs on imports of Chinese medical supplies now? :)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/business/economy/coronavirus-china-supplies.html
     
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    My dear friend, should be blame God for criminal negligence in creating the virus in the first place? :angel:
     
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    Well said. That's why God creates the virus to punish both "criminals". Should God be punished for creating the virus? :angel:
     
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    Stop hugging the flag please. The flag needs social distancing too. :icon_picknose:

    Should the 50 to 100 million dead worldwide ask God to punish the US for 1918 Kansas Virus?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/
     
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    IT’S TIME TO FULLY RECOGNIZE THEM: Taiwan to Donate Ten Million Masks to U.S., E.U.

    Taiwan will donate ten million face masks to countries struggling with the coronavirus pandemic, a move that will likely rile China, which claims Taiwan as a territory and has donated far fewer masks to other countries despite its role in covering up the risk posed by a deadly virus that originated within its borders.

    In December, local and national officials issued a gag order to labs in Wuhan after scientists there identified a new viral pneumonia, ordering them to halt tests, destroy samples, and conceal the news. A recent collaborative study by scientists based in both China and the U.S. found that 95 percent of infections could have been prevented had China implemented measures to stem the spread just three weeks earlier.

    The U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report Wednesday that China deliberately provided incomplete public numbers for coronavirus cases and deaths resulting from the infection.
     
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    Again... nope. I sourced my things.
    And I add... you're not responding to my sources.
     

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