Yes, Blame China for the Virus

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    These are deffo unbaised Arab/UK sources... saying that it is indeed true.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/timeline-china-coronavirus-spread-200126061554884.html
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382

    And they do not dispute your sources. Your sources are just omitting facts out of their political agenda.
    So you admit... he's not doing anything. Got it.

    The US is using fork lifts to dump bodies like unwanted road kill in 18 wheelers. That's how it is when it's dealing with just around 4,000 dead. The prediction is that they get 100,000 to 240,000 dead. The US will turn in a massive hell hole. We all know it. The virus doesn't give a damn if it's not socialist there. In fact, you might prefer socialism at this point. Poor and uninsured people will be dying all over. You aware that rather socialist Norway asked it's citizens to freaking flee the US because of it's iffy heath care facilities? lol

    You presented no evidence. We discussed this. You're unable to rebuke.
     
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    Yeah you're saying it's all garbage.
    But that's not a argument founded with a source.
    I sourced my things there buddy. So that stands until you disprove it.
     
  3. struth

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    1) those articles don't support your claim that the Chinese Govt learned about the virus on Dec 30th
    2) When did I say that? He's doing quite a lot, and been a very effective leader in all this.
    3) NYC is turning it to quite the hell hole...their leadership was very unprepared, and their citizens are not following the President's guidelines. Foreigners should be leaving the US and going home. That's a good thing. Being uninsured doesn't prevent you from getting treatment in the United States.
     
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    So you are saying you would rather eat disease infested bats and snakes than good old beef?

    Hmmm, the choice is eat beef and be pleasantly plump or eat bats and snakes and get a life threatening virus.....I'll take the beef please.
     
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    My BBC source, says he did on the 30th to his colleagues.... and ADDED HIS MESSAGE in Chinese as proof.
    My Arab source says that China reported it on the 31st. So you know... it does massively support my claim.

    Quiet a lot? He did nothing to stop the spread of the virus in he US.
    Other leaders in the world did far more. They demanded lock downs etc.
    And the US is predicting that they are going to eclipse the world with the amount of corona corpses.
    Corona hell hole number 1, f* yeah!

    Indeed. Donald was unprepared. He was busy tweeting to think about it's just 22 Corona deaths vs 90,000 of your random flu on march the 9th,.. downplaying it all. We won't forget.
     
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    I have countered you Arab reporting with respected American reporting msg #112
     
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    And people here still desperately defend them.
     
  8. struth

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    When a doctor leaks information to the WHO, that’s not the same as when the Chinese Govt was aware.

    yes he’s doing quite a lot. The American people see it too, hence his poll numbers rising

    i agree that the president, as well as the world weren’t prepared for how bad this was going to be, that blame belongs to the lying Chinese Govt. with that said, we were prepared as best we could. What’s going on in NYC has a lot to do with the people not following the president’s guidelines.
     
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    No. That's fake news.
    The Chinese government notified the WHO on the 30th.
    Even your source says so!!

    He did nothing to stop the spread in the US.

    Other world leaders are locking everything down. The US president did not.
    Current predictions of the US indicates that the US is going to be hell hole nr 1. f* yeah.
     
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    That does not mean that’s when the Chinese Govt learned of it.

    sure he has. All the experts praise him for the Chinese travel ban

    good for them, many here are as well. The United States will be fine.

    everyone is suffering because of the Chinese Govt lying about their virus
     
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    Even your link says that it was China who reported it to the WHO on the 30th. You counter nothing. You only are leaving things out that doesn't fly well with your agenda.
     
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    This headlong mania to 'offshore' everything began with the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 (I remember it well). Suddenly, it was 'safe' for western corporations to put more and more of their operations overseas -- Russia had collapsed, and the Chinese were very willing to entice big-rich corporations to abandon earlier offshoring involvements in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Indonesia -- bringing everything over to China instead.

    Profits soared, prices that everybody in 'the West' paid for nearly everything dropped dramatically, the stock markets skyrocketed, and many, MANY 'Western' jobs went overseas. Now, nearly thirty years later, we're all thrilled and delighted! Be careful what you wish for....
     
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    This source being used: https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies/
    December 21: Wuhan doctors begin to notice a “cluster of pneumonia cases with an unknown cause.

    And so when the doctors got no clue, it does mean the government doesn't got ANY clue.
    It even says at december 31st, that this is the time the government of China contacted the WHO,
    and that this was 3 weeks after the first patient came in with a flu symptom.

    This is exactly what I've been saying. It doesn't mean the Chinese government was covering anything up.
    Fake right wing news, to blame non white foreigners for getting a domestic hell hole with up to 240,000 corpses.

    That was after the virus was already in the US.
    The president did nothing against the spread IN the US.
    You're just ignoring that to rant about how it did not ENTER the US... more than it did.

    Up to 240,000 corpses... I don't call that "fine" prospects.

    No such claim has been proven. Fake news.
     
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    Nobody believes anything out of the Chinese anymore...they have repeatedly been caught lying. Again, just because they notified the WHO then, doesn't mean they weren't aware of the virus...they were quite aware...reports highlight as far back as November

    Sure he has....experts all point to the travel ban as well as the guidelines his admin put together. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...an_to_china_absolutely_made_a_difference.html

    We don't have 240K people dead....

    Yes it has....https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...xtent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says
     
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    Donald was still comparing it to your average flu with a tweet on march 9 saying Corona only killed 22 people while the common flu kills up to 90,000. And he asked to think about it how small of a danger Corona actually was. We won't forget that he was downplaying this very deadly virus for so long while people in Italy, Spain and China were dropping dead all over.

    Where exactly is this cover up? You just posted garbage.

    Corona was already in the US. And Donald, the retard personified, did nothing against the spread when it was in the US.
    US governors had to fend on their own and figure it out if they had to put in a total lock down or not.

    All kinds of other presidents put in total lock downs, closed the schools, made it a crime to gather. Trump went on tweeting that it all wouldn't be so bad, downplaying it till the end... when he had to admit the predictions are up to 240,000 deaths! And you're not responding to him constantly downplaying it. Very dishonest.
     
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    Additionally, according to your link, on Dec 25 there was strong evidence of person to person transmission, yet even in late January the WHO was reporting the Chinese were saying there was not evidence of it.

    Thanks for highlighting more lies from the Chinese
     
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    You've refuted nothing in the complete timeline and again through most of January China and the WHO were saying no human to human, they had contained it and DOWNPLAYING it and issued false information.

    That you defend China is quite telling
     
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    I haven't seen any lies. You posted nothing where they were lying.
    You haven't proved / sourced / linked that the Chinese government was aware that there was a new virus before they notified the WHO. So far it's just baseless accusations. Fake right wing news to blame non white foreigners.

    A guideline? Really? Is that the most proudest thing you can mention that Donald did to prevent the spread of a deadly disease.

    Look folks.. I got this guideline, see. You can ignore it. Nobody will do a thing against you when you do. It's up to you, you know. That's such a powerful, strong message. It's just as power and strong as the president is to deal with this. lol

    I said that those are the predictions, not that they are already dead.
    Reading skills, struth,... reading skills.
     
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    pfff... lol
    There was a.... SUSPICION ... 2 people got it from somebody else. That is according to your source.
    A SUSPICION... than being labelled as "strong evidence".

    Good lord. Give me strength. lol
     
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    That is blatantly incorrect!
    Your source said ... there is NO EVIDENCE... that it was transferable from human to human.
    That's not denying. That's not being able to prove it!

    This crap came from animals, remember?
    For all they knew, it was all animal - human transfers. You need to be sure of this.
    All you got is right wing fake news. Fake news of accusing foreign non white people,
    for having an utterly massive mess in your own country.

    When reports came that the death rate was 3.4% in China, Donald was downplaying it with his HUNCH was that it wouldn't be so bad. He kept up that downplaying up till at least the 9th of march when he tweeted that only 22 people died from Corona while the flu kills up to 90,000 and we had to think about how Corona doesn't kill that many.

    Nobody downplayed it like Donald, until he had to let the experts speak about 100,000 to 240,000 deaths.
    And you're just completely ignoring that Donald was downplaying it like that. Very dishonest.
     
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    I posted a link to the Intel Communities report highlighting their lies and misinformation

    Yes a guideline and policies...as well as travel bans.

    In my state and others people are being charged with crimes for violating them.
     
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    I am just quoting your own source. that's what your own source called it. They had strong evidence....and continued to lie.
     
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    Please prove the US is doing what you say it is woth bodies. You present no evidence.
     
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    They knew back the December there was human to human and they were covering it up. That had victims who had never been near the market nor in contact with people who had been there. They covered it up and WHO went unquestionably along through January 20.

    Oh but it's all TRUMPS fault....................what folly.
     
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    China has poured a LOT of money into leftwing universities, politicians and think-tanks, and they take the CCP party line at every opportunity, hell, even Lebron James and the NBA promptly jump if the Chinese crack the whip.

    And every time we look closer, they get more evil, vile and dangerous. We have been their best customer for decades and they clearly do not view us with respect as a relationship they value, other than for exploitation.

    With the shutdown, American Business is now run on China's ZOOM videoconferencing software.

    THE ONGOING SECURITY NIGHTMARE THAT IS THE ZOOM VIDEOCONFERENCING APP: Attackers can use Zoom to steal users’ Windows credentials with no warning.

    “Zoom for Windows converts network locations into clickable links. What could go wrong?“​

    [​IMG]
    More than 24 hours after receiving a request to comment and nine hours after this post went live, a Zoom representative emailed with the follow statement: "At Zoom, ensuring the privacy and security of our users and their data is paramount. We are aware of the UNC issue and are working to address it."

    Windows users should be extra suspicious of chat messages that contain links.
     

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