Yes, Sanctions Against Iran Can Work!

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  1. Realite

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    Too bad sanctions rarely work, and usually cause distress on the innocent population, not the power elite of which the sanctions are targeting.
     
  3. waltky

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    Iran feelin' the heat of sanctions...
    :buggered:
    As sanctions tighten, Iran gets squeezed
    May 23rd, 2012 - Despite recent assurances by senior officials in Iran that the country will weather sanctions targeting the country's petroleum and financial sectors, the international effort is having a noticeable impact on the Iranian economy. And the situation may well figure into talks scheduled for Wednesday in Baghdad over the Islamic Republic's disputed nuclear program, U.S. officials say.
     
  4. Allegiance

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    You do not realize that Iran does not mind suffering from poverty,low life quality and low health in order to reach the destination of the nuclear warhead.
    When Iran succeeds in its program to attain nuclear facility,the world will become much more helpless than what it is nowadyas.Iran pretends to get a little excited about those futile sanctions to lead a common assumption among experts and diplomats in the west that they are stuck and the most protruding sanction which is supposed to be fully applied in July (I'm not certain) is not genuinely capable of damaging the Iranian financial system and even it may be devastating in some way because Iran would increase the transfer of oil to South America for a little lower cost to cover the financial hole from europe.Iran is not even showing some sort of compromise throughout the both negotiations cylces and making sure the following cycle takes place within over two weeks,the international community doesn't conclude from what's happening that Iran only tries gaining time for their nuclear program and wrongly consider the significance of this issue.I propose two main options that may bring to a complete destruction of this murderous program and here they are : 1.totally paralyze the entire economic system in iran till the regime surrenders,generally there is an urgent need in wiping out the current regime that cruelly executes innocents.When the sanctions come to a point in which Iran has no way back,the concession will be highly rapid.2.Well integrated attack by all of the empires including Israel,It is time to fight not only to terminate the nuclear aspirations but collapse the whole corruped regime that excludes people from free speech,free sex and religious freedom,it is time to abort the islamic revolution and revive the previous regime that was in iran whose relationship with israel was wide (not calling for the destruction of islam but calling for the destruction of the religious complusion).Iran is frequently affording terror affiliates around the globe which are supposed to operate for them in a time of need,in this project of iran,there is a lot of money pouring out for terror destinations instead of the welfare of the habitants.

    Iran is the only country to call for the eradication of a state,it is something that must be well thought among those who are in charge of this issue.My feeling is that the endeavours to dissuade iran from obtaining nuclear material and freely enriching it are too soft and have no real impact and Obama has to get out of the idea to attack on iran at the time of the elections for two important reasons :
    1.The attack on iran will open a regional combat in which the USA will also be involved,the war wouldn't surely raise the sympathy for Obama.
    2.By then,Iran will fortify its nuclear centers and achieve the targeted nuclear facility.
     
  5. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

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    This will work.. Iran has to have an oil price of $117 a barrel.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/250351-saudi-arabia-s-oil-war-plan-hinted.html
     
  6. hedayat_yafte

    hedayat_yafte New Member

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    Hi
    I'm an Iranian man.
    I was come to this page and I was read your Comments.
    So I was think that maybe you should know about what most Iranian think about Sanctions.
    you know
    Iranian's revolution success at 1975.
    after that USA and most of the other country scared from the situation of New Iran.
    New Iran have wanted Freedom , Independence and Above all new kind of Government. (A Government that has created from Islamic Rules.)
    u asking: what problem with that?
    the point is this.... Islam was and is and will the big problem for Colonialism.
    so From then onwards, all of the Diabolic powers wanted to destroy a new way of thinking...
    they starting a War against us... first with a toy names SADDAM Husein from Iraq.(The captives who capt from Iran force were from 24 nations, and Saddam used Lethal gases at this war that he hasn't... and those were made in USA , Germany , France and .... )
    but a secret force came for Help. Iran won that war against all the power of the world.
    so they created a new strategy that kill that secret force... but They can not even be close to their goal.

    the sanctions against Iran has created form the start of our revolution. and that has been more or less during the time until know.
    so People are accustomed to these sanctions
    They continued their way with the power that will continue every day.

    I'm thinking u don't know even a little about Iran and Iranian people.
    so cause I love u all people, I may Upload a film that show 0.01% of Iranian power next time. If your Sanctions let:)
     
  7. Margot

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    Do you still have colonialism in Iran? I was not aware of that during any of my visits to Tehran.

    Iran has half its tanker fleet moored at Kharg storing 23 million barrels of oil..

    I would beg the regime to stop any plans for nuclear weapons for the sake of the Iranian people.

     
  8. hedayat_yafte

    hedayat_yafte New Member

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    Hey u know our people want nuclear science and energy... not nuclear weapons... because all of us know that it's useless weapon.
    and because of We have democracy in our Government and our Religion don't allow us to create such things, We do not even think about create nuclear weapons.
    And Our goal is to eradicate colonialism in all the world.
    If you come to our country you shouldn't say such thing. but I accept.
    about Nuclear weapons In Iran, I have a Documentary. and I want to upload it for all of you.
    it's created from a Pakistani Student who live In Iran from 2007 to 2012.

    the 1st cut-sense
    [video]http://www.aparat.com/v/0fa1950b0a3cdd40fe6ff3052dc421cc219448[/video]
     
  9. Margot

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    I know that Iran has needed nuclear power since the 1970s, but at this point the world does not believe that Iran isn't developing nukes..

    The situation is very dangerous for everyone, including the Iranian people.
     
  10. hedayat_yafte

    hedayat_yafte New Member

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    what situation????
    You think that Iran wants NUKES.. But We don't think so.
    and If you want our big positive point I suggest to you to see these doc....
    and For a little laugh. Please see this.
    download2.jpg
     
  11. hedayat_yafte

    hedayat_yafte New Member

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    part 2 of uncontained :)

    [video]http://www.aparat.com/v/e772682eec7ad1a5e7e42c7a4ed74f46219453[/video]
     
  12. hedayat_yafte

    hedayat_yafte New Member

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    It's full part of this movie.
    this movie was created by Pakistani student who lived in Iran from 2007 to 2012.
    so I explain it maybe tomorrow...


    Part 1
    a piece of Strategical source.......USA Is 8th neighboring the country of Iran......
    http://www.aparat.com/v/0fa1950b0a3cdd40fe6ff3052dc421cc219448


    part 2
    Terrorists has a mask of Innocent......
    http://www.aparat.com/v/e772682eec7ad1a5e7e42c7a4ed74f46219453


    part 3
    One of government's opinion
    http://www.aparat.com/v/e87bb674777360219b5e44b2897733ac219454


    part 4
    Isfahan
    http://www.aparat.com/v/35d48c2b234acc687498585ac2e76165219457


    part 5
    No benefit for nuclear weapons........
    http://www.aparat.com/v/2817dadd7088dcd31dffe3e5055a8e00219458


    part 6
    The History of start nuclear program IN Iran....... The history of beginning the new government
    http://www.aparat.com/v/bc75f23dd32d05d91e4aee8bda491b98219459


    part 7
    History of new weapon.......... Iran-Iraq War...... another American's Crime that they never apologized
    http://www.aparat.com/v/e652674bebb9727969e3bf31b4b0dca0219460


    part 8
    sample of first new Power for Iran......
    http://www.aparat.com/v/1eb49c6591af0bc6d3f8744f557c9ef7219461


    part 9
    this type of power was created between people....
    http://www.aparat.com/v/02234e75bce3736ea6a90799e614d161219462


    part 10
    the most Important source.......
    http://www.aparat.com/v/7c57d0b5b9fab29ba9f3e317cc71033f219465


    part 11
    USA doesn't asking for Nuclear weapons........ so what thing are they want?........... BIG LIE 9/11
    http://www.aparat.com/v/fc621b0c78368ff4c12167efbddd3320219466


    part 12
    What Islam says about NUKE........ Iran's right for nuke in other people minds....
    http://www.aparat.com/v/95b9457dea9884631cc6f153d91e0c4c219468


    part 13
    Hiroshima........ USA Nukes.......... Palestine ...... Iran's Power named: soft power.... Iran has a Big and lovely leader
    http://www.aparat.com/v/c5fa39d263ca38801d5efb33b6afe3d9219470


    part 14
    One of American Soldier that fight for Iran against USA
    http://www.aparat.com/v/6cc611d5230ccdb4ee0b457557ee75d9219471


    part 15
    The way to victory... Victory if not far of Iran.
    http://www.aparat.com/v/6cf08fdb7756192bc4a0caf4568e5aac219474


    part 16
    Iran and it's friends in the new world........
    http://www.aparat.com/v/e5712730c371e5fddd7474df6752b347219475


    part 17
    What was The leader say about this big power? ..... Egypt revolution..... all people revolutions ... tomorrow of Europe
    http://www.aparat.com/v/5195670748216dd85fe16c4b278c2db4219476


    FINAL part
    after this part you can see why Nuclear weapons has nothing in front of this new power.....
    http://www.aparat.com/v/118bd45f756176b738340d38db8f1ffa219478
     
  13. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Yes we do. Whether the Iranian people want nukes is hard to say but your government has a nuclear weapons program and has already enriched huge quantities of uranium to very high levels. Both the quantities and the level of enrichment (20%+) far exceed the requirements for civilian use.

    Can you comment on the topic of this thread though, is it true that Iranian economy is near collapse?

    Iran's economic future never looked grimmer. It currently suffers from a huge deficit, wide-ranging unemployment, a worthless currency, reckless inflation, and young people who only want to flee the isolated state. Many of them have succeeded in doing so.
     
  14. atabitaraf

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    Hi!
    Please be more friendly if you all want to be aware of the other friends' POVs.
    If Iran had nukes US could betray every thing at the moment they find anything and they have any sensor to find everything worldwide, don't they?
    Iran does not have nukes, but if someone thinks we are to make them it's another topic to discuss. Up to now based on all the agreements signed Iran wanted to make it clear, pure and simple, that there is nothing to be worried about and our nuclear attempts are all peaceful.
    You want to know the truth my friends? If we signed international agreements and if we invite experts to come to see nuclear sites and everything, there would be remained some questions: Why are only we supervised not to step outline?! And when they cannot find anything illegal they try to make propaganda worldwide? And because we do not have so much international media as they have people think there should be still something dubious about Iran's.
    But no one is to ask why Israel has clearly with no doubt and be proud of having!
     
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    Its too late.... There has been too much lying, accusations, threats and propaganda from both sides for over a decade.. Its impossible to undo that damage.

     
  16. hedayat_yafte

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    Salam Wa'alaikom
    Its not never late ... losers say such things ... but you are not one of them , aren't you?
    In this world not thing is Impossible ...
    I know :Its Impossible If you don't want to search and talk Blindly ... and because of your word people may think Its Impossible .
     
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    Hello Dear Margot!
    It's my first time in this forum to get an answer and I am really happy because the answer is from an American person since I love your country, as a lot of other Iranians do honestly (You can refer to some surveys)
    What you said is the way of politicians but we should be like people and friendly as the majority of people are. You say! What should we do to take you among all the people who like to make relationship between two countries? (among politicians because people already have relationship)
    Based on what the government signed, we accept any investigation the committee want to accomplish.
    The last but not the least important point is that like any other nation we respect our humanity. My brother! Iran has everything needed inside the country. Believe me sanctions make the life harder for Iranians but we never ignore our initial and the simplest rights. With difficulty we can live, but with being humiliated NO!
    It is an easy way of inviting you to a friendship as I can do best respectfully. Whether to accept or not I like you.
    ata
     
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    Oh dear, you've been misinformed, your government does not cooperate:

    The UN nuclear watchdog and Iran failed Friday to agree a deal allowing greater access to Tehran's contested nuclear programme...The International Atomic Energy Agency had come to the meeting "in a constructive spirit and with the desire and intention of finalising the paper" but Iran had imposed new conditions on a deal, Nackaerts said.


    http://news.yahoo.com/iran-opens-talks-nuclear-watchdog-084306155.html
     
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    I have been to Iran many times but not since the 1970s.. I generally like Iranian people...

    Things are not going well.. I tend to blame the Revolutionary Guard, but I am not even sure that's right.
     
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    Dear Borat,
    First I want to mention I am not totally in agreement with the government but for the nuclear issue I think I am.
    When it is not in the government's commitment to deal about this site it is a new agreement. It should not be called 'not cooperate'
    I ask you, why they don't want to assure us of not selling our information as they disclosed the name of nuclear scientists to Israel and they became killed one after another and what your reporting agency did? Almost Silence, Misinformed.
     
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    They are just playing stupid. They know there is no nuclear weapons program.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...et-to-decide-to-build-nuclear-weapon-1.419300
    Greetings!
     
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    I am just curious, do people really not understand the difference between not building a nuke just yet and not having a weapons program or they think they are clever and fooling others?

    The article you are quoting states that they are not building a bomb yet. That they are building the infrastructure to build a bomb and enriching huge quantities of uranium to very high levels far beyond the requirements of civilian use is not even disputed. The infrastructure to enrich uranium to weapons grade and build a bomb IS nuclear weapons program.
     
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    Do you see the difference between building a nuke and wanting to build a nuke?
     
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    The refusal to provide access required by the UN designated monitoring agency is non-cooperation. And what are they hiding anyway? The IAEA does not need to know the identities of the scientists to inspect the sites, the idea that a UN body is selling names to Israel is preposterous and Israel has other means (the Mossad) of finding out the names of these scientists anyway.

    Oh and the assassinations of Iranian nuclear weapons scientists were widely reported in Western media, you've been misinformed on this account as well.
     
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    Yes, Look how it worked in the previous WMD variation in Iraq. We certainly shouldn't try to learn anything from that fiasco. We should again start with sanctions against covert non-existant weaponry and then justify progress to military action.

    [/sarcasm]
     

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