Yet another antigun teacher projecting her insecurities

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  1. Medieval Man

    Medieval Man Well-Known Member

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    This university teacher is considering to refuse to write a letter of recommendation for one of her students.

    Why?

    Because the young lady is a gun owner.

    http://chronicle.com/article/Guns-PancakesAmbiguity/236154

    This is yet another example of a person living in a left wing echo chamber who is unable to apply common sense to any equation. This anti-gun nut, like most liberals/progressives/socialists, projects her own insecurities to others, and thus deems them unworthy.

    Imagine, just imagine, if a pro-life professor wrote a similar essay about a student who was contemplating an abortion, and found her unworthy of a letter of recommendation because of these beliefs. The leftists would be howling in outrage...
     
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    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    My momma done told me, a buzzard is two faced.
    Yawn.
    Nothing new here.
     
  3. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    There is no automatic privilege to get a recommendation from a professor. That said, the professor's rationalizations are very irrational, and I think she is allowing personal biases to possibly interfere with a career. She should be ashamed of that.
     
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    Good thoughtful article - pity it had to be twisted to make a point on this board

    Of course the high rate of school shootings in America will impact on people

    Would you recommend Adam Lanza for a teaching position?

    Who about Seng Cho?

    Amy Bishop - who killed 3 people and injured 3 more
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
     
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    Works here in Australia - if they have an illegal gun they are pretty much a criminal by definition

    BTW - Carlson never said that - check out Snopes next time

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carlson.asp

    Nice attempt at character assassination
     
  7. Medieval Man

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    Using this reasoning, I guess you will agree with the idiot Trump that the U.S. should immediately deport all Muslims. Gosh, San Bernardino, Boston Marathon, 9-11, Fort Hood...

    Fortunately, we have a constitution to prevent people like you from imposing their beliefs on us.
     
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    Straw man fallacy

    And you have no idea what my beliefs are
     
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    I disagree with her on this, just as I woudl disagree with a Christian teacher refusing to write a letter of recommendation for a Atheist as an example

    they better come up with real reasons not to if they don't....


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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    some repubs and dems are against some Americans owning Guns sadly

    I believe every free American should be allowed to own a gun to protect their homes and family
     
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    Well Bower Bird, you do believe in comprehensive gun control, gun bans, and even more restrictions on gun possession and concealed carry of guns, yes ?
    Most people in the U.S. do not, so when you advocate Australian style gun control here in the U.S. people get their Dander up.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And not just in the home, everywhere in public too.
     
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    agree, I do not even think one should have to get a license ot conceal as I think that is the polite way to carry a gun.... you should not have to ask the government for permission to be polite

    I would though make the punishment for gun crimes severe.... commit a crime with a gun... do some major time

    punish gun crimes, not gun ownership

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    No, I do not think those things will work in America

    I do believe though what would work is legislation around personal responsibility
     
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    WOW, We agree on something ! yipeee !

    I knew there was a reason why I like you !!!!

    I am happy to admit to being wrong about your beliefs too.
     
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    Don't get too excited yet because my ideas of personal responsibility may not be the same as yours.

    Firstly - yes you are responsible for ensuring your weapon/s are registered (and here I will upset many gun owners). You are responsible for not allowing that weapon to fall into the hands of someone who is not registered to own and use a gun (criminals children etc)

    Firearms should be responsibly secured when not in use

    Other than that go for it - own as many guns as you like (but I think over 50 and you should be required either to own a gun club or be a registered firearm museum)

    I do think though that the rapid fire weapons remain a threat to society if they are not strictly controlled - maybe through a separate registration.

    Perhaps it should be less about registering the guns rather than registering people who are shown to be responsible - just like a licence to drive a vehicle you have a licence to handle/own/use guns.
     
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    Well, I would still rather be your freind anyway.
     
  17. Bowerbird

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    :hug: Thank-you

    If you ever do get to Australia you might be surprised at how we look at things

    It is not simply that we cannot see a reason to have a gun - most of us could not be bothered to go to that much mucking around
     
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    Not a fallacy, I'm just pointing out yet another example of the lack of logic when a liberal/progressive/socialist talks about firearms.

    You clearly linked the young lady in the article who owned a gun with some of the various mentally ill people who killed others in cold blood, thus, all gun owners are mentally ill. This is apparently because you don't know many gun owners personally, and are able to label them the 'other' in your mind.

    Trump links mentally ill Islamists who kill in cold blood with all Muslims, thus, we need to deport Muslims. Trump is clearly labeling Muslims as 'others' in doing so.

    This often occurs when leftists and other ignorant people live in echo chambers where they are not exposed to diversity of thought.
     
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    I wouldn't have recommended Lanza or Cho if they had never heard of a weapon. They were both obviously nuts. Are you insinuating that the girl in the OP was mentally ill? There is no evidence of that in the editorial. The professor had high praise for the girl as a leader.

    I do agree that the professor has a right to not recommend this girl. That said, first, she should have told the girl about it straight up--not wait for weeks. That is simply unprofessional. Second, the professor's reaction is knee jerk and based on her OWN tortured personal life. I feel for her, but she shouldn't allow her own experience to possibly destroy this girl's future career.
     
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    "Trump links mentally ill Islamists who kill in cold blood with all Muslims, thus, we need to deport Muslims. Trump is clearly labeling Muslims as 'others' in doing so"

    Non Terrorist Muslims allow Terrorists to operate and even provide aid and funding to them, they also refuse to identify these Muslim Terrorist elements, they are complicit before and after the fact, using 9/11/01 as an example, why allow people in our country that work against our interests ? Do we need another 9/11/01 ? .
     
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    If you have an illegal gun in America, you are a criminal as well. What is your point?
     
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    In places like New Pork City, self defense is legal, however, if you use an unlicensed, unregistered gun, you can get 5 years in jail and a felony record.
    That is ridiculous, to turn an otherwise law abiding person into a criminal, this has happened to our Armed Forces War Veterans defending their family from attack.
     
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    Wait, we have a high amount of mass shootings to ban guns but not enough to allow armed citizens? You can't have it both ways.
     
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    Gun ban hypocrites care not if guns can prevent deaths, they do not care about facts.
     
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    Enforcement - how is the illegality enforced?

    Few guns = easier enforcement
     

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