Yet more lies + war mongering from the usual suspects..

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Iran’s nuclear warheads could hit NY in 3 to 4 years – Netanyahu to UN

    Iran is building missiles that could reach New York in three to four years, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the UN on Tuesday, comparing a nuclear Iran to “50 North Koreas.” It comes after Hassan Rouhani launched his “charm offensive.”

    “Iran is now building ICBMs that the US says could reach this city in three or four years,” Netanyahu said, speaking to the UN General Assembly in New York. He used this argument to bring the “truth” about Iran into a practical dimension. :roflol:

    Netanyahu accused Iran’s nuclear program of not being peaceful. “Why would a country with a peaceful nuclear program develop intercontinental ballistic missiles, whose sole purpose is to deliver nuclear warheads,” he said.

    Netanyahu said he wished he could believe new Iranian President Hassan Rouhani - who has sought to make progress in nuclear talks since taking office at the beginning of August - but said he simply couldn’t do so.

    “When it comes to Iran’s nuclear weapons program…Rouhani is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a wolf who thinks he can pull the wool over the eyes of the international community,” Netanyahu declared, demanding that harsh sanctions be imposed on the country. He predicted that such sanctions would be effective if accompanied by “a credible military threat.”

    He added that “if Israel is forced to stand alone, Israel will stand alone” in the matter of defending itself.

    “The only diplomatic solution that would work,” claimed Netanyahu , “is one that fully dismantles Iran’s nuclear weapons program and prevents it from having one in the future.”

    Existing sanctions on Iran have seen unemployment rise to 20 percent, with inflation hovering at over 30 percent, according to former US Labor Secretary Robert Reich. The US and EU have placed the country under a total economic embargo, meaning that Iranian-origin imports are banned and there is almost a complete US ban on selling aircraft parts to the country.

    “These sanctions are violent, pure and simple,” Rouhani said during his speech to the UN General Assembly.


    Netanyahu created a four-point plan for imposing a further "diplomatic solution" on Iran. Firstly, the country would have to cease all uranium enrichment. Secondly, Iran would be required to have all stockpiles of enriched uranium removed from its territory. Thirdly, infrastructure for a nuclear breakout capability would have to be dismantled. And lastly, all work at the heavy water reactor in Iraq aimed at the production of plutonium would have to be stopped.

    Rouhani appeared to be somewhat in the limelight at the UN, addressing the General Assembly twice and doling out interviews to those who requested them. Iran’s UN presence appeared to set the context for a breakthrough in relations between Washington and Tehran. Netanyahu followed this with talks at the White House on Monday with US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry.

    Standing at the podium at the UN on Thursday, Rouhani called for a conference to create a zone which is free of nuclear weapons or any weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East without delay. All countries, he said, should participate in the conference.

    He stated that any use of nuclear weapons is a violation against humanity, adding that “the world has waited too long for nuclear disarmament.” Rouhani pointed out on September 24 that Israel was the only country in the region that had not yet signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.


    ‘Have your yellowcake and eat it too’

    Netanyahu skipped over the use of props this year, unlike last year when he brought along the infamous ‘red line’ cartoon drawing.

    On Tuesday - the last day of the General Assembly - Netanyahu reeled off an impressive repertoire of knowledge regarding Iran’s national history, going back some 25,000 years, to illustrate his more recent displeasure with the country.

    “The great Persian king Cyrus ended the Babylonian exile of the Jewish people. He issued a famous edict in which he proclaimed the right of the Jews to return to the land of Israel…but in 1979 a radical regime in Iran tried to stamp out that friendship,” he said, skipping over the intermittent years and also citing a line from a book written by Rouhani in 2011. He added that a nuclear Iran would be “50 North Koreas” and commented that “Rouhani thinks he have his yellowcake and eat it too.”


    Yellowcake is milled uranium oxide - a kind of uranium concentrate powder which is prepared through a variety of refining methods. It is used in the preparation of uranium fuel for nuclear reactors.

    Iran says its nuclear program addresses its energy and medical needs, and insists on its right to develop it – a topic which will be brought up at the next round of high level talks. The talks will be held in Geneva, Switzerland on October 15-16. Iran and the six world major powers will participate in what will be the first nuclear negotiations to take place since the election of Rouhani, who has urged the world to seize the opportunity of his election to resolve the nuclear dispute.

    Following Netanyahu's speech at the UN, the Iranian ambassador took the floor in response, telling Israel “don't educate us,” and adding that it could be Israel that perhaps requires better education since it didn’t sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    Rouhani himself later took to Twitter to request that “Government & Parliament, allow for everyone to freely express their views within the framework of law and ethics.”

    http://rt.com/news/iran-nuclear-netanyahu-un-598/


    These pukes won't be happy until they plunge us into WW3.

    They have been pulling this nukes chat about Iran for 25yrs.

    Frankly, it should be illegal for them to make such claims in this way, and they should be deemed a terror state.

    Do they ever do anything else than tell lies and lust for war?

    [video=youtube;_LSC1kPIEXE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=_LSC1kPIEXE[/video]

    He's a LIAR.

    [video=youtube;fpQdg4D78Jc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
  2. Jonsa

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    While Israel has a vested interested in making sure Iran does not obtain nukes, I see no reason that Iran should not be able to utilize nuclear power to meet its energy needs.

    Don't you think it reasonable that certain limitations on that nuclear program, in accordance with international treaties?

    That Bibi would demogogue against Iran is tit for tat.
    Unless of course you think the pronouncements that have originated from Iran for the past 30 years are to be totally ignored, which would of course be par for the course.

    But I do agree that the Islamist "pukes" (as you call them) that run Iran will not be happy until they plunge us all into ww3 by attempting to obliterate Israel.

    I would dearly like to know if there is a shred of evidence that Iran is attempting to build ICBMs tho.
     
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    lemme ask you something -- why does a nation in the middle of the most oil rich region on the planet need a nuclear power plant? If the issue is medical radiology, why is it so important that they refine it themselves. Another thing -- why are the refineries built under mountains?

    I don't know for sure that they have nukes, but I can't think of another reason why Iran would keep after nuclear power despite sanctions that have ruined their economy? Same people would have given up on the nuke plants in order to not destroy the country. It's really a strange set of behaviors, unless you assume that the idea is to get nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons might be worth it (to some people) to tank their whole economy for. Weapons explains why they insist on refining themselves rather than buy refined uranium for medical use. Weapons explains the need to bury refineries under mountains.
     
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    I was a lot more interested in the Israeli position regarding Iran until I read about the lead time that other countries had needed from the point of bringing their first reactor online to the point of having their first nuke weapons.
    Pakistan took something like 17 years. N. Korea did it faster. Several other countries were mentioned. America didn't even have a reactor in WWII, but developed the first nukes in a matter of about 4 years.
    Iran has had the ability now for many years, but has no nuke. This can only indicate that they really and truly have no intention of developing one.
    The real problem is that too many people want to rule the world. Israel. America. Islam. For as long as one group wants to be on top, there will be conflict, fueled by lies and justifications.
     
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    Thats a pretty slow delivery system
     
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    Except that I did not call them 'Islamist pukes'.

    Again.

    Just for you man.

    "These pukes won't be happy until they plunge us into WW3.

    They have been pulling this nukes chat about Iran for 25yrs."



    I was NOT talking about 'Islamists'.

    :roll:
     
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    Originally, Netanyahu was going to say Iran could nuke Chicago in a few years, but his pollsters told him that would make Iran look like the good guys.
     
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    Iran has justifiable reasons for wanting nuclear energy. Don't forget it was the US who first got Iran interested in Nuclear Energy.

    If you are genuinely interested spend an hour or two studying this history of Iran and nuclear energy.

    A note on the author's credentials

    Link http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/03sahimi.html
     
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    Netanyahu is a clown and Iran can destroy Israel anytime they like without using any nukes.
    Israel is afraid ? okay and Hungary is afraid of Slovakia , Slovenia is afraid of Croatia and Western Sahara is under Moroccan occupation , how all those are our problems ?
     
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    Saw the speach last night,


    I agree Bibi has some issues to solve with this psych doctor, I think the line he gave was dumb, erratic, paraniond and worst of all implied Israel is a weak shadow constantly in fear of Iran - and that;s so not true..


    To say we dont trust them and will keep and eye open shouldnt have gone throu the bad dees Iran did throu history, that's hateful crap, true or not is irelevant to the case and makes us look hatful and scared, to say we keep a military option open could have been hinted in a much more diplomatic way.

    He looked like a goon IMO, I agree with the main messege but the way he did was shameful,


    But then again the UN is as dumb as the show Bibi gave yesterday so perhaps it was for the best after all...

    - - - Updated - - -

    Main messege, we might bomb the nuclear facilties, no concern of yours I agree.
     
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    Hysterical.
     
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    Has Iran threatened to nuke Israel?

    All I remember for well over a decade is Israel claiming they would.

    Iran is building missiles that could reach New York in three to four years, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the UN on Tuesday, comparing a nuclear Iran to “50 North Koreas.” It comes after Hassan Rouhani launched his “charm offensive.”
     
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    Bibi is so predictable.... If there is a tiny hope for peace, he hits the road with his Iran threatens Israel show.
     
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    But that has no relation to the Palestinians, IF the Palestinians will make an agreemnet with Israel then Iran will say they betrayed the Palestinian ppl and continue to support the radicals, it has no bearing.
     
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    A criminal liar.

    I wonder when the World Jewish Congress will making statements about him, and I wonder where the men in balaclava's are to take him and his criminal organisation away.
     
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    They have no right to make statements on "erasing" Israel regime from the pages of time, its my favourite regime and I like it, I see Iran declarations as aggresive and war like, so if they are an enemy why shouldnt we target military targets in Iran that can bring a change in the balance of power to our disadvantage ?
     
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    You are obviously comparing The Israeli Government to Golden Dawn. They are both ethnic nationalist parties. Now tell me how come you support one but not the other?
     
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    There was a story doing the rounds years ago(perhaps you heard it), in which it was said his psychiatrist had committed suicide.

    I don't think it was any more than a rumour though. Recall the story?
     
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    Because 'balances of terror' historically lead to less bloodshed. I do not believe Iran has nukes though any country with any sense and not a strong feeling that they are religiously wrong would have, given the threats she has received.
     
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    No.....I dont think that if he has one it would become public.....sounds like a myth to me.
     
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    I also take that into consideration, that's why im not in panic, what will be will be.
     
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    Yeah, rumour/myth, that's what I meant.

    Here it is here.:wink:

    Moshe Yatom, a prominent Israeli psychiatrist who successfully cured the most extreme forms of mental illness throughout a distinguished career, was found dead at his home in Tel Aviv yesterday from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    A suicide note at his side explained that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been his patient for the last nine years, had “sucked the life right out of me.”

    “I can’t take it anymore,” wrote Yatom.

    “Robbery is redemption, apartheid is freedom, peace activists are terrorists, murder is self-defense, piracy is legality, Palestinians are Jordanians, annexation is liberation, there’s no end to his contradictions.

    Freud promised rationality would reign in the instinctual passions, but he never met Bibi Netanyahu.

    This guy would say Gandhi invented brass knuckles.”

    Psychiatrists are familiar with the human tendency to massage the truth to avoid confronting emotionally troubling material, but Yatom was apparently stunned at what he called the “waterfall of lies” gushing from his most illustrious patient.

    His personal diary details the steady disintegration of his once invincible personality under the barrage of self-serving rationalizations put forth by Netanyahu.

    “I’m completely shocked,” said neighbor Yossi Bechor, whose family regularly vacationed with Yatom’s family.

    “Moshe was the epitome of the fully-integrated personality and had cured dozens of schizophrenics before beginning work on Bibi.

    There was no outward indication that his case was any different from the others.”

    But it was. Yatom grew increasingly depressed at his complete lack of progress in getting the Prime Minister to acknowledge reality, and he eventually suffered a series of strokes when attempting to grasp Netanyahu’s thinking, which he characterized in one diary entry as “a black hole of self-contradiction.”

    The first of Yatom’s strokes occurred when Netanyahu offered his opinion that the 911 attacks on Washington and New York

    “were good.”

    The second followed a session in which Netanyahu insisted that Iran and Nazi Germany were identical.

    And the third occurred after the Prime Minister declared Iran’s nuclear energy program was a “flying gas chamber,” and that all Jews everywhere “lived permanently in Auschwitz.”

    Yatom’s efforts to calm Netanyahu’s hysteria were extremely taxing emotionally and routinely ended in failure.

    “The alibi is always the same with him,” complained another diary entry.

    “The Jews are on the verge of annihilation at the hands of the racist goyim and the only way to save the day is to carry out one final massacre.”

    Yatom was apparently working on converting his diary into a book about the Netanyahu case.

    Several chapters of an unfinished manuscript, entitled “Psychotic On Steroids,” were found in his study.

    The excerpt below offers a rare glimpse at the inner workings of a Prime Minister’s mind, at the same time as it reveals the daunting challenge Yatom faced in seeking to guide it to rationality:

    Monday, March 8

    “Bibi came by at three for his afternoon session.

    At four he refused to leave and claimed my house was actually his.

    Then he locked me in the basement overnight while he lavishly entertained his friends upstairs.

    When I tried to escape, he called me a terrorist and put me in shackles.

    I begged for mercy, but he said he could hardly grant it to someone who didn’t even exist.”

    Sequel

    Second Psychiatrist Suicide Rocks Israel

    Defense Minister’s Analyst Overdoses on Valium – Wave of “Shrinkicides” Feared

    Just one week after Benjamin Netanyahu’s psychiatrist Moshe Yatom killed himself in despair over his failure to develop an effective treatment for the Prime Minister, a second psychiatrist suicide has left Israel reeling.

    Yigal Peleg, 61, a colleague of Yatom’s who had been treating Defense Minister Ehud Barak for Security Addiction Disorder (SAD), was found dead at his home in Tel Aviv Monday evening from an overdose of Valium.

    A suicide note indicated that Yatom’s failure had provoked widespread despair in Israel’s psychiatric community, which fears a therapeutic remedy for doublethink is much more remote than previously believed.

    Security Addiction Disorder, often characterized by blizzards of doublethink, is also now believed to be well nigh incurable.

    The loss of two such highly successful analysts to clinical depression in such a short time has left Israel fearing a wave of “shrinkicides” may be in the offing.

    Many government officials are currently undergoing analysis, with virtually all of them sporting the same penchant for doublethink that drove Yatom and Peleg over the edge.

    If current treatments continue to prove ineffective, a psychiatric “Jonestown” could well be the result.

    “Laypeople don’t realize the stress involved in treating ideology-induced psychosis,” observes Dr. Rafael Eilam, best-selling author of Zionist Lunacy On The Couch: The Perilous Quest For a Cure (Sanity Books, 2010).

    “Take Security Addiction Disorder. A client afflicted with this illness simply cannot perceive that domination and security are not the same thing.

    To dominate another is to guarantee insecurity, since the dominated instinctively seek to escape domination by any means available.”

    Given the almost total blindness of SAD patients to their own aggression, psychiatrists who treat them often can’t resist impulses to bash their own brains out with the nearest blunt object.

    This tends to reduce the quality of their subsequent research.

    Similar problems confront psychoanalysts treating Massive Attack Disorder (MAD), which is said to be rampant among Israeli leaders.

    Patients afflicted with this dread disease lack the maturity to understand their own needs, let alone those of others, and destroy everything in their vicinity like a cranky toddler smashing his toys.

    The illness has a poor prognosis, as victims typically don’t notice that they are worse off in the wake of each tantrum.

    According to Dr. Eilam, Israel’s savage attacks on Lebanon and Gaza in recent years may be credited to their MAD proclivities, with both attacks having contributed substantially to Israel’s current pariah status.

    In a somewhat surprising development, psychiatrists world-wide are rallying to support their embattled Israeli colleagues by forming a Free Israel movement.

    As their first major action they are planning to sail a flotilla to Tel Aviv loaded with humanitarian relief supplies for Israeli psychoanalysts and their high-profile patients; that is, tons of anti-depressants for the former and elephant tranquilizers for the latter.

    Flotilla organizers admit that these are only palliatives, but argue that the elephant tranquilizers in particular have been shown to be at least moderately effective in calming the symptoms of Zionist Infantile Outburst Neurosis (ZION),

    the most serious of which is a chronic impulse to rob, swindle, torture and murder all those who,

    in the victim’s judgment,

    which is by definition infallible,

    impede the onward march to the Zionist paradise.

    http://uncensored.co.nz/2010/06/17/...nd-israeli-psychiatrist-linked-to-government/
     
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    Was it in 3 lines I would laugh from it as a joke, as it is so elborated...I see it as an attempt to pass as real record and thus offensive to truth and common sense, I know you didnt write it but the auther makes an offense on my intellect...
     
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    The oil will run out, sooner or later. Then what do they do for electricity? In the mean time, have they anything else which they can export in exchange for sufficient foreign capital to maintain a reasonable standard of living?

    So that they cannot be blackmailed by the foreign investor classes.

    Because paranoid foreign powers might decide to devastate their economy to keep them dependent.

    [QUOTR]I don't know for sure that they have nukes, but I can't think of another reason why Iran would keep after nuclear power despite sanctions that have ruined their economy?[/QUOTE]Have they any reason to trust us not to find some other way to screw them over?
     

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