You can have one gun for home defense...

You would love 6.5 mm on Deer !!!

Fast, aprox 3,000 fps, flat shooting, not much recoil even in a very light rifle, hand-loading only, working up loads required !

Lots O'Work !!!! to be sure.......

Mayhap a Savage action for easy swap barrel capability.....
Really only 3 or 4 actions, classic Mausers, large or small ring, Remington 700, or Ruger, or a single shot of some type... To work up loads.....

As well as a full well equipped work-shop ! lol

 

I have a M700 in 6.5-06 for 1000yd. 140gr VLDs @ 3000. 28" Kreiger bull barrel, McMillian stock.
Pie-plate groups at 1000, from prone, in a sling.
Big fan of the 6.5 for long-range shooting.

 

I picked up a Savage 10T from Cabelas a year ago in 6.5C. Haven't had too much time behind it, but factory Hornady 143 ELD-X shot a .33" group first time out.

 

The first time I shot the lil lightweight rifle, I was thinking this lil whisp cannot shoot so well, was not that thrilled until after I shot it.
A nice lil thump to the shoulder......
Very accurate.

I want another on maybe a Savage, or another Ruger.
Hand-loads !!!-

 

sorry but the premise is flawed. The shooters in my home vary in size and strength so no 1 gun fits all.

 

Each of them can pick one. Just like you.
Well?

 

Anyone with Bullpup experience? Aside from Travor, Karl-Tec seem to be thinking in that direction with shotguns and 5.56 (RDB). The Kel-Tec RDB-Looks interesting, But have’t held one yet. No ATF BS.

 

for ccw I carry my Taurus 709 slim

For in the house I prefer more rounds and a longer trigger pull so it's the S+W SD9 with a trigger kit bringing it down to about 6 pounds.

The wife has a Taurus Millennium G2 but we're looking at a Shield

we're not Glock fans

I'm also going to get an M+P Sport 2 in 5.56

 

Anyone seen all the freedom coming out of SHOT show?

 

I've already got mine: AK-47 with red dot sight, green laser and a bayonet. Great for home defense, hunting and joining the Revolution.

 

I would get a S&W or a Springfield Armory or any number of firearms before choosing Taurus.

Home defense, foo foo... lol

 

For home defense I take a shotgun.

Now, if you are talking about clearing rooms, I take the ar15 with the rail system, sure fire light, red dot scope. ETA: if I can, I would like the laser aim point and NVGs too. Also, a couple of concussion grenades...LOL

 

Flash-bangs are better than grenades for most purposes.

 

A stick of dynamite is better for fishing.

 

Right, kill more fish than you can eat.
Kill stuff you will not eat, violate game laws too.........
Sure .......

 

Flash bangs are not lethal, and used by Police to stun and temporarily blind Armed suspects, as an alternative to killing them.

 

edit to add: If you are talking about in close quarters combat inside a home, yeah. I am not using a frag grenade.
No, concussion grenades have 1 purpose. There are mutiple types of hand grenades. Fragmentation are obviously the most lethal. Incindiary are great for getting rid of enemy weapons on the battle field. Smoke gives you concealment. Not mentioning grenade launcher

 

Have some coffee, Who. This time put a sense of humor in it.

 

Flash bangs have the potential to be quite lethal.

 

No, not at all, I have been present when they were used.
They are a potent noisemaker and light display.

 

Since people do that every now and then, use explosives to kill / waste fish, I do not see it as funny or humorous or anything to laugh at.

You obviously are not my freind, I got it.
No loss in any case.

You seem related to another poster I do not see anymore.

 

Uh yeah, I seem to remember better coverage of Grenade types by Instructors in various classes.
As well as Demonstrations and hands on practice.

 

Because the next revolution won't be fought with muskets.

For that, among other things, I have these.
Serious work requires serious hardware.

 

http://reason.com/blog/2011/03/09/swat-officer-killed-by-non-let

Charlotte, North Carolina, SWAT officer Fred Thornton was killed last month when a flashbang grenade exploded as he was securing his equipment in the trunk of his patrol car. This comes a few years after the federal government began a criminal investigation of a firm that manufactured faulty flashbangs, one of which prematurely detonated in 2008, causing permanent injury to three FBI agents.


I explain this in more detail in a column I wrote last year, but the thing to keep in mind is that the only malfunction with the flashbangs in these stories was the timing of their detonation. Had they not gone off prematurely, they would eventually have been used against U.S. citizens, just as they're used every day in America. Most of the time, they're used against people merely suspected of a crime, and most of the time those crimes are nonviolent, consensual drug crimes. That is, by design, when they're used exactly as intended, flashbangs cause serious, sometimes permanent injury to people who have yet to even be charged—much less convicted—of nonviolent, consensual crimes.


The people on the receiving end of a flashbang grenade are undoubtedly just as unprepared for their effects as Officer Thornton or the FBI agents injured in 2004. The grenades and the raids in which they're used are intended to take their subjects by surprise. The grenade's specific purpose is to give officers a tactical advantage in situations where they're entering a house or a room and have no way of knowing what's going on inside. Which means they're deployed blindly. Which means there's a good chance the people subjected to flashbangs—which would include both suspects and innocent bystanders—are in just as defenseless a position as Thornton or the injured FBI agents were.




According to the family of Aiyana Jones, the nine-year-old Detroit girl killed in a police raid last year, the flashbang police tossed through her family's window landed on her blanket, setting it and her on fire just before an officer mistakenly shot her. Flashbangs have set homes on fire (some resulting in fatalities), caused severe burns, and confused police officers into thinking they were coming under gunfire, causing officers to open fire themselves. The blinding, deafening effects have also induced fatal heart attacks. For all of these reasons, the NYPD, to its credit, has stopped using them.


In an interview for my column last year, Clay Conrad, a Texas criminal defense attorney who has challenged the use of flashbangs in court, offered an interesting proposition. "We were prepared to argue that if these things are as harmless as the state claims, we should be able to detonate one in the courtroom. That would have been fun."


I doubt any court would allow that. Which is precisely the point. Weapons like tear gas or Tasers also cause injury, but they're only used (or at least they're only supposed to be used) against someone who has demonstrated that they are an immediate threat to police or those around them. Flashbangs are usually deployed before the suspect has been given a chance to comply peacefully.


The devices that killed Officer Thornton and injured those FBI agents did exactly what they're supposed to do. It's just that from the officers' perspective, the devices went off at the wrong time. We should be asking why we permit the government to routinely use the same devices against U.S. citizens.

 

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According to the family of Aiyana Jones, the nine-year-old Detroit girl killed in a police raid last year, the flashbang police tossed through her family's window landed on her blanket, setting it and her on fire just before an officer mistakenly shot her. Flashbangs have set homes on fire (some resulting in fatalities), caused severe burns, and confused police officers into thinking they were coming under gunfire, causing officers to open fire themselves. The blinding, deafening effects have also induced fatal heart attacks. For all of these reasons, the NYPD, to its credit, has stopped using them."

Anything can in persons with cardiac problems,
Saying BOO ! "can induce a geart attack.
As it takes not much to start a fire.

Flash bangs are only to be used against Armed Attackers in limited and finite scenarios as an alternative to killing them.