You need to listen to Fox News to actually get it!

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    Another way to put that is the pertinent witnesses to the factual matter of the investigation all gave testimony damaging to Trump. Because, the Repubs had no witnesses who could contradict what happened. If they did, they were allowed to call them.
     
  2. AFM

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    So another banana republic advocate emerges. ^^^ When did you decide that the basis of our justice system is 'guilty until proven innocent' ??
     
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    Then why did you bother telling what amounts to an out and out lie? Adam Schiff was similarly dismissive in regards to his "parody", but we all know that he did it for a very specific reason. He was trying to mislead.

    Pointing out blatant dishonesty is an important function in political debate, especially in reference to an OP which sets the predicate for an entire thread.
     
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    All that was presented was hearsay and mind reading. And again has not the transcript of the intelligence Inspector General Michael Atkinson been released ??
     
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    Those who cannot rationally dispute the facts attack the source. Predictable and boring.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

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    Unequivocally not true. Perhaps it's time to reconsider your sources of info and connect to the real world where every thinking adult who is breathing understood what he did was parody.
     
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    LOL....yeah, it could have just as easily been a "parody" that skewed in Trumps favor, but on a coin flip it was the opposite and it was by pure happenstance made to make him sound like a mobster. No intent to deceive whatsoever!...sure thing (sarcasm).

    On a side note...By your own words it appears that you need "sources" in order to tell you how to think. I on the other hand, utilize free thought and I am fully capable of drawing my own conclusions. The intent behind Schiff's "parody" was clearly to deceive and create phony sound bites that twist reality.
     
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    Be careful. Every time you tune in to Fox News, you lose an IQ point and about two million perfectly good brain cells.

    This is your brain on Fox. :sunnysideup:

    :mrgreen:
     
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    The irony here ^^^ is palpable.
     
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    Schiff is a walking parody.
     
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    There's nothing ironic about my comment. It's humor. I realize that Trump has no sense of humor, but why are so many of his supporters the same?
     
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    Your statement is completely ironic. And that’s why it is funny.
     
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    Why would the fact that it's partisan imply that there is a conspiracy?

    There was a conspiracy to acquit Trump, of course. It was completely public. McConnell said that he would coordinate with Trump's attorneys, and that he would ensure Trump was not removed. So they definitely conspired. Apart from that, looks to me like it's probably every partisan unpatriotic Republican Senator for his/herself. But I wouldn't discard a conspiracy.

    Did you have a point?
     
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    Whatever pal. Now the upper limit is $127,000. Above that there is no payroll tax. Is that what you mean or are you a little bit not knowing what you are talking about LOL?
     
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    Yes they changed it to keep up with inflation. Splitting hairs again. The point is the rich don't pay as much percentage wise in payroll taxes as everyone else. Nor do they pay as much percentage wise in state and local taxes. Google the only tax graph you need to know. So we get the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Google the demise of the middle class fact left. No sacrifice is too great to save our bloated rich from paying their fair share. Ditto giant corporations. Thanks GOP
     
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    But they pay a higher percentage than people who make $1000000 a year it's all part of the fact that if you count all taxes, we have a flat tax system that leads to the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history and in the modern world.
     
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  17. Lee Atwater

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    Trying to keep up with all the misstatements of fact you folks make is like playing a game of Whack-A-Mole.

    Lamar Alexander says House proved Trump withheld aid to pressure Ukraine
    https://www.axios.com/trump-impeach...der-dab4c5f7-f99c-4151-ae04-836f0a502662.html
     
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    Why would anyone elect them if they're not doing what's best for our country?
     
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    Your points conflict with one another. they were simple and I understood than they were just contradictory.
     
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    The Democrats are so much better than the revolving-door lobbyist Republicans it's ridiculous.their crony regulation and oversight have caused corrupt bubbles and busts every time they get 8 years. C-19 29 1989 and 2008 and 2023 if Trump gets elected again no doubt...
     
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    Yes you have a conspiracy theory like the flat Earth. If everyone sees it and doesn't agree with you about the outcome it's over. Why don't you people focus on getting one of your ass clowns running for office elected? Remove Trump the Democratic way. Versus trying to drum up conspiracies.
     
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    Very misleading headline....in facf, once you click on it you realize he actually said this "President Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to "encourage" its government to investigate.." ok....yeah we all know that, the President admitted part of the reason he held up the aid was to encourage and to insure the new Admin was committed to rooting out corruption.
     
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    Who gives a crap about percentage?

    We are talking absolute dollars.

    The more you make, the more taxes you pay.

    Fact. End of story.
     
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    Because they are totally misinformed by the worst propaganda machine in our history run by a greedy idiot GOP billionaire?
     
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    So there is a conspiracy?
     

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