You need to listen to Fox News to actually get it!

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1.Most conservative parties worldwide advocate in one way or another for tax cuts to the rich.

    2. Lock her up doesn't excuse 'Trump is a Russian asset who is working for Putin because he has a video of Trump getting pissed on by prostitutes'. Both sides of the divide deserve blame.

    3. Talking a big game on climate policy and consistently doing nothing is not much better than outright denial.

    4. Discuss for the sake of the audience then. What can you do but expose them to your ideas? Wanting climate action for example without addressing the skeptics achieves nothing in our representative democracies. How are you to do this without at least knowing their opinion?
     
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  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The magic is called "Google". I can teach you, my young padwan. Flick your wand while you say "Videum Playum" and click the following link

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1205311801212190727

    See? Even you can do it.

    I'm going to leave you alone now. There are too many interesting debates to waste too much time on your nonsense.
     
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  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I doubt you'll have any interesting debates. Everyone who disagrees with you is just part of a conspiracy.

    But you can run away that's fine.
     
  4. JCS

    JCS Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you forget Trump was impeached based on multiple sources of evidence? And that he wasn't removed by the Senate only because it was a sham no-evidence-allowed trial? And that Mueller's report listed at least 10 counts of obstruction...and clearly laid out how Trump knew & accepted Russian interference & aid...and that 37 associates/aids/employees around Trump were indicted in that investigation? Plus what Mueller said in his testimony which I posted earlier?

    And ask yourself, if Trump was innocent why does he do everything a guilty person would do? Why does he always surround himself with so many crooks & liars instead of truly draining the swamp? Why was he fined $2 million for charity fraud? Why did he have to pay $25 million for fraud in Trump University? Why have 25 women (thus far) accused him of sexual assault? Why did he pay hush money to Stormy Daniels? Why did Cohen's testimony basically confirm the accusations against Trump by Mueller (eg, the effort to coverup/downplay Russian involvement)? Why would Cohen call Trump "a racist," "a conman" and "a cheat"? Why does Trump always try to fire people who are simply doing their job investigating him or who have exposed him? Why did Trump lie about the Ukraine call (per the whistleblower) before he was forced to release the partial transcript? Why did Trump store the Ukraine call records in a secure server? Why does Trump not want note-takers present when he has certain meetings with insiders? Why did Parnas confirm the accusations against Trump regarding Ukraine? Why did Trump lie about "knowing" Parnas? Why did Bolton confirm that Ukraine aid was delayed contingent on investigations? Why did the OMB records confirm Bolton? Why did Mulvaney confirm the quid pro quo? Why did Sondland say the president was interested only in the announcement of (not actual) investigations? Why did Giuliani say he has "insurance" if Trump decides to throw him under the bus? Why does Trump have a long history of business corruption & violations? Why won't Trump release his tax/financial records? Why did the White House send House impeachment witnesses requests that they no testify? Why did Trump block subpoenas for witnesses implicated in the Ukraine scandal & refusal to hand over internal documents/records?

    The list is virtually endless...but either you're in denial, you're unable to do the math, or you just want the last word...because I can't see how someone can be so thick as to not see the writing on the wall.

    The proof has been laid out from multiple (and continuing) sources. The only reason Trump's not removed and/or indicted is because he's the president and because he's being protected by the Barr & the courts (thanks to McConnell). Even Parnas said Trump's best weapon is Barr...and he would know.
     
  5. JCS

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    Hardly! You just don't like the message.
     
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    Perhaps you could point out in the Mueller Report where Mueller concludes that American(s) colluded with the Russians?

    I'll wait.
     
  7. JCS

    JCS Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Dems are certainly the preferable bunch...but they have a lot of work to do if they are to live up to their name.
     
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    They're supposed to do what's best for the people & nation...no matter what. They're not supposed to do whatever it takes to get elected/re-elected. See Bernie's long political/activist history as an example of what a real congressman should be doing.
     
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    The banana republic is strong. ^^^^ Hilarious.
     
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    And the right wingers don't? lol

    NBC & others don't matter. CNN is the big one to compare to Fox. Both are unreliable...but Fox particularly so.
     
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    NBC doesn’t matter, I’ll give you that.

    actually the poll found most people Fox is. Hence it’s the most trusted
     
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    Making millions off his office and pushing Venezluan style socialism is what someone should be doing??
     
  14. Polydectes

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    No I got the message Donald Trump is a dictator but the people who are in The conspiracy to make sure he stays a dictator are the beholden to the people that elected them.

    I get the message it's just cockamamie.
     
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    this has nothing to do with the question I asked.

    Why would people elect him if he didn't do what was best for the nation?

    apparently not enough people agreed with you last go round because he wasn't elected. Are all those people just dummies or did they maybe think Bernie Sanders is a communist and bad for our country?
     
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    What are some examples of Fox News Channel unreliability ???
     
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    Bernie has accomplished nothing as a US Senator. Please list your top three of Bernie’s accomplishments.
     
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    Good glad to hear it they are the worst. We need a fairness doctrine again I have friends who are totally off-the-wall brainwashed by Rush Limbaugh who hate Democrats and have done away with all their Democratic friends fayston total b*******. On the other hand Fox primetime is just as bad.
     
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    so how many of your hundreds of phony scandals against Democrats have reached a courtroom or anywhere near it? All investigated and nothing found but idiotic lies from the GOP propaganda machine, repeated endlessly totally discredited and never retracted. I know it is not a conspiracy of all our public servants, another disgraceful anti-American disgrace.it is damn hard to change the minds of people who are totally brainwashed and have an imaginary planet all their own. And refuse to change the channel
     
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    GOP dupes have only Rupert Murdoch media and radio demagogues behind them while every respected journalists and media and law enforcement around the world think they are totally misinformed. We have CNN MSNBC which a crap as far as I'm concerned they never have any news on, just pundits endlessly debating GOP garbage propaganda without ever mentioning the fact that it is pure crap. At least they don't lie. We also have the BBC France 24 der Spiegel the Hindustan times you name it every media not owned by Rupert Murdoch. May he die soon. His heir says he's full of s*** even LOL
     
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    Exactly! Go down the list, everything from fake scandals about F&F to the IRS to birtherism. 95% of what Trumpette's believe about these fantasies are built on a steaming pile of dung.
     
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