You need to listen to Fox News to actually get it!

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tin hat getting tight ???
     
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    $Billions less than what the govt is spending on healthcare today (due to bloated insurance company, drug company, and administrative costs). Bernie will also do away with much of defense spending...and put a final end to our senseless & stupid imperialist ways. Imagine how much more revenue that'll bring in too! Plus, he'll do away with wasteful spending everywhere...............etc.......etc.............etc.

    But ask Bernie or visit his websites. I'm not the expert. HE is.
     
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    I know. I need to start watching Fox News and listening to AFM. At least then I won't even know if I'm misinformed or informed.

    Ignorance is bliss.
     
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    Go up to what? Go check it out. You'll be surprised.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Really silly argument. There are three hundred thousand names in the list I gave you
    SEARCH THE VOTER LIST FOR YOUR NAME

    STEP 1: Open the list at this link http://bit.ly/InactiveVoters

    STEP 2: Wait for the list to load. Watch the progress bar, top right.

    STEP 3: Start search with the Command + F

    STEP 4: Enter your last name in the search box and look through records for your full name
     
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    The poll highlights that at least with Fox and BBC it’s non fiction
     
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    Nothing as usual.
     
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    Go up to what they pay in Sweden.
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! The operative word is "misinformed".

    But, actually, looking back it should be "patriotism". I mean, those who support a dictator wannabe who disregards the laws and the constitution I'm sure would rather be tagged as "not smart" as what they really are: "unpatriotic". They're not real Americans. And once Trump is just a bleep in history, they will never be able to claim loyalty to their country ever again.
     
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    Can’t make this up. ^^^^ Trump voters are not real Americans. How can any rational person take you seriously ????
     
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    No other president has so egregiously and continually violated our Constitution.

    And incidentally, I have no party affiliation, never had. I've voted as a independent since my first vote in 1972. I've voted for Democrats and Republicans, but after the GOP's complete loss of honor with Trump, no Republican will ever get my vote again for any office.
     
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    I didn't. I wasn't that specific. When I do list a number, I usually include a link to wherever I found it. Look for yourself.
     
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    The number is zero.
     
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    How has Trump violated the Constitution ?? He hasn't. You are making things up. You have nothing.
     
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    If you're talking about Medicare for all they will go up because they will cover all their healthcare no deductibles no cost at all. The rich will pay more than the regular people. And it will cost about 70% of what we pay now for healthcare. It actually is the best deal unless you're trying to get along without any health insurance. It's complicated nobody knows the all these answers. But there it will be better than what you have now for everyone involved except for the insurance companies and big pharma.
     
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    I'm talking about Scandinavian Welfarism that Bernie calls Democratic Socialism and which the Scandinavian countries refute correctly pointing out that their economies are based on capitalism and NOT socialism. The Scandinavian countries tax their rich much more lightly than the US and tax their low and middle class much more heavily. Scandinavians who have very good work ethics do much better in the US than in Scandinavia.

    Your and Bernie's claims that things will be much better are lies.
     
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    constitutional violation?
    so you do have a party affiliation. And it's based on orange man bad?

    Kind of sad.
     
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    That is pure baloney. We have a flat tax system here where everyone pays 27% on average except for the poorest who paid 21 or so. Google the only tax graph you need to know. More like Canada you know. New Zealand Australia. I am a huge France fan also. Every modern country but us has all these things already and they do just fine.
     
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    Thanks for making my point. The rich pay less and the poor pay more. In fact in the US the bottom 47% pay zero federal income tax.

    Baloney indeed.
     
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    the federal income tax is our only progressive tax and misinformed GOP voters can only talk about it absolute idiocy. Payroll taxes are as much as federal income taxes now and state and local taxes hit regular people twice as hard as the rich. That's what happens when you cut taxes on the rich federally. Google the only tax graph you need to know and stop being misinformed
     
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    Scandinavia soaks the lower and middle classes. The US does not. That’s how the Scandinavian Welfarism is funded. Your post clearly shows that.
     
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    The only redeeming quality that fox news has is tucker carlson his current incarnation. I am still surprised that they have him on. Not that I always agree with tucker but he gives air time to real deal journalists like glen greenwald who is a liberal with some honesty and integrity. Msm has blacked out people like greenwald.

    Traditional fdr liberals can find common ground with tucker. The post modern progressive dem cant but those people are the extremist fringe and would tear up a steel ball with a feather. The most destructive fringe ever to exist . Unable to survive outside of the bubble they live in
     
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    So you would then agree that those on the Fox News Channel who agree with Tucker and with whom Tucker agrees with also exhibit redeeming qualities.
     
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    Each and every day he is in violation of the emoluments clause. His favor can be, and often is, bought by both domestic players like lobbyists and politicians, and foreign dignitaries looking for favor. They stay at his resorts and hotels. They hold events like birthday and anniversary parties at his resorts and hotels. In other words, they pay to play. This has been taking place from day one.

    From Article I, Section 9: "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

    From Article II, Clause 7: "The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them."

    Trump is the exact type of president that the founders were so carefully trying to prevent.
     
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    Isn't Fox News fake news now? I thought Trump turned on them the other day.
     

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