Young Turks Millionaire Founder Urges Staff Not to Unionize

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  1. Capn Awesome

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    His net worth is 5 million dollars. There is nothing like sticking with your values.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e540686c5b6ad3de3823a32/amp

     
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    I manage unionized workers and there's not a single positive thing I can say about the union or the 438 page contract I'm forced to abide by. According to the terms of the contract, if I have to downsize, the least senior employees would be the first to go even though they work the hardest and are the most productive. The most senior guys are pretty much loads of **** who do nothing and would be the last to go. I can go on for hours giving examples of how unions suck, but most of you already know that.
     
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    Been working with unions all over the country in event production and video for decades. Barely a good experience ever. ALWAYS a pain in the ass.

    Private individuals know that the harder they work you’re bound to hire them again. But Unions know it doesn’t matter. You HAVE TO use them no matter how shitty they are. We’ve had to pay union cameramen to sit on their ass while we Hired our own people because they gave us an old engineer who didn’t know WTF he was doing. How to pay gaffers to plug in extension chords. Insane!!!
     
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    I've see his **** on Youtube. What a ****ing lowlife. Nothing bad enough can happen to him as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    My father's company was constructing a new building back in the 1970's. Every night, union thugs would break in and trash the place.

    Unions suck. I'd rather sweep floors than humiliate myself by joining a union.
     
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    I can't stand Cenk. He's so dumb and pretentious at the same time. Apparently a hypocrite too.
     
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    I like how he thinks unions should only happen at "large corporations".

    How does he think the situation changes when it's scaled up to a big company level? How is a big company getting crushed by labor union costs and inefficiencies any different than a small company getting crushed by labor union costs and inefficiencies?
     
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    This is really disheartening. I've been following Cenk for awhile. I understand his argument: unions smooth out the power imbalance between the average worker and the company. In a really small company (or startup) there's not that much a power imbalance, as there is with, say, Amazon. And unionizing might have killed TYT in the embryonic stage.

    I was union President for two years and head negotiator. I kind of agree with Cenk on this. The times that unions were really needed and have really delivered for people have been when they've gone up against megacorporations (e.g., Ford) / industries (e.g., Coal), not small businesses.

    That being said, if Cenk is work $5 million, he can afford to let TYT unionize. They're big enough to handle the extra cost now. And he can tap into some of that $5 mil. He could fundraise off the fact they have a union. I would give them $10. That he's not doing any of that is very disappointing.
     
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    The 5 million figure just comes from googling his net worth. I think those figures are somewhat dubious but still. For me, even though I lean left myself, I never liked the young turks and particularly Cenk.

    He just always seemed very close minded but perhaps he's just not articulating his real positions and playing to an audience. His argument against unionizing his own business is that its a very competitive field, and that it puts them at a competitive disadvantage. That seems valid enough, but I'd imagine that is probably what Jeff Bezos would say something similar and Cenk would tear him apart for it. At the same time he uses the right wing argument about beaucracy and productivity he doesn't actually seem to learn anything from seeing something from the other side and that's the most disheartening thing of all.

    It makes me wonder what his true position really is. He has to say he's pro-union and anti-millionare cause that's his audience. But is that what he really believes.

    Is 5 million not enough to share some of that wealth with your workers? Where is the line?
     
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    ICYMI


     
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    Then, from a moral standpoint, you really shouldn't be managing unionized workers.

    Did that thought ever cross your mind?
     
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    Unions suck, this is why nurse unions are largely opposed.
     
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    Cenk is a nut. I listen/watch his stuff from time to time. There should be some amalgamation of the “blind squirrel finding an acorn” and the “it’s different when it’s your ox that’s gored” truisms that fit this circumstance, but it’s the wrong time of day for that kind of creativity. Someone help me out...
     
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    He did provide the best election night meltdown. It’s a gift that keeps on giving.
     
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    Where is the line?

    The line for lefties like Cenk is always "a million more bucks than I have right now".

    Take a guess when Bernie Sanders crossed the line from attacking "greedy millionaires" to attacking "greedy billionaires"?
     
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    The union is the biggest pain in my ass.

    Dudes who have been there less than a week will have the union handbook memorized. I've been there a year and have never even see the thing.

    My position is non-bargaining so they already dont like me, but every time someone makes up some excuse as to why they cant work, it's a huge ordeal.
     
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    It's pretty funny that the Huff Po is reporting on this.


    The Young Turks' Progressive Founder Urged His ... - HuffPost
    www.huffpost.com › entry › the-young-turks-progressive-founder-ur...

    5 days ago - In a tense meeting with employees, Cenk Uygur argued that a union doesn't belong at a small news network struggling to make profits.

    The union thing worked out so well for them.

    The Huffington Post Ratifies Union Contract | HuffPost
    www.huffpost.com › entry › huffington-post-union-contract_n_588f...

    Jan 30, 2017 - NEW YORK ― The Huffington Post ratified its first union contract Monday, becoming the largest digital news site to collectively bargain amid a ...

    Layoffs underway at HuffPost a day after parent company ...
    www.cnn.com › 2019/01/24 › media › huffpost-layoffs

    Jan 24, 2019 - Fifteen members of HuffPost's union were laid off on Thursday, according to a spokesman for WGAE. The layoffs also affected those in management who were not in the union. "Today is a tough day at HuffPost.
     
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    Saw this from a few sources. Hilarious.

    Liberals: Unions are awesome!!! Businesses should share the wealth.

    Liberals who own businesses. We can’t be profitable though!!!! No unions!!!!
     
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    Unions for thee, but not for me.

    I like how Cenk thinks that unions should only happen at big companies. What magic does he think happens when you scale up from a small company, to a big company, that makes the increased costs of union labor no longer a problem?
     
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    Leftists love telling others how to spend their money. But don’t you dare expect them to take their own advice.

    Like Bernie said, everyone has a lake house and what’s the problem becoming a millionaire on the public dole!! Really Bernie? Rich people are evil until you become one eh?
     

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