YouTube Walks Back Defense Of Commentator Accused Of Homophobic Harassment

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  1. Mac-7

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    Yes.

    But that only made it more fun for liberals

    Now thats the new standard and its your turn

    Unfortunately libs can dish it out but you cant take ir
     
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    Yeah but you were speaking of homophobic talk barring Crowder so id assume your against Maher's racist talk
     
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    You did object?

    What about free speech?
     
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    Depends does somebody laugh?
     
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    I believe Maher apologized. Apparently he thinks it was wrong.

    All I said was it seems that conservatives are using comedy as an excuse to actually be racist and homophobic.

    I don't think Maher is racist or homophobic, do you?

    I suspect if this were a comedian making jokes about Trump, like what's her name, the one with the bloody head...conservatives would not be going on about free speech.
     
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    "I don't think Maher is racist or homophobic, do you?"
    Idk but in my opinion it doesn't matter because I could never prove it..

    My question is how does Maher get more leeway to do comedy than Crowder ?
     
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    He doesn't.

    Look it up.
     
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    Does it count if they’re paid to laugh?
     
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    How would we know the difference?
     
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    You wouldn’t have to defend it with sophistry.
     
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    "Seems to me the defense of Crowder is an excuse for conservatives to be racist homophobes under the guise of "comedy". "

    Except Maher's said racist things Noah too Colbert etc etc.... That's what political comedy tends to do push the issue. If it's fair game for one side it it should be for the other side
     
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    Fair game to complain about?

    People do.

    People complained about the lady with her bloody Trump head.
     
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    Complaint is different than getting them removed.... Last I checked Maher still has a YouTube channel
     
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    The lady with her bloody head lost all sorts of jobs and her show I believe.

    Anyway, complain to Youtube about Maher than.

    Doesn't Crowder still have his channel?

    Regardless of all this baloney, Crowder seems like a jackass, don't he? As do his fans.

    You think what he says is merely for comedy, and he's actually not at all racist and homophobic nor are his followers? He has a lot of gay and Mexican fans, does he?

    I believe Maher probably has fans from many backgrounds and I don't think people think he means to say things in a truly racist or homophobic way. Probably why he apologized. Crowder apparently won't apologize.

    This seems to be the difference, no?

    When Maher made his joke, who was it about? Did he do it over and over? Did it seem like he was harassing and hating? Did he do it enough to where his fans started harassing who he made the joke about?
     
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    What about it?

    I did my Rochester imitation, “yowsa mista Benny Iz a comin” and black people stopped laughing

    Imagine that?
     
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    A phobia is an irrational fear, for example arachnophobia is the irrational fear of spiders. Even Wikipedia defines a phobia this way :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobia

    So unless you can prove that Crowder is afraid that gays are going to get him in the night, he's not a "homophobe", and I'd appreaciate if you spoke actual English instead of made up libspeak.
     
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    Stephen Colbert is a jackass Bill Maher is jackass that's what makes comedy comedy. If you're not a jackass then you're Jeff foxworthy. And that's not funny.
    so the demographics of your fans control your thoughts? Maybe he does and can you write me a list of his fans their nation of origin and sexual orientation?
    the only reason you believe that about Maher is because you prefer him to Crowder and you don't want him to be racist likely because of his political affiliation.

    Crowder actually did say he didn't intend on offending Hispanic gay people. So he doesn't have to apologize for his intent. The fact that Bill Maher did Apologize means he knows he did something wrong. Or he wants to placate an angry mob. I think the latter is the most likely which means he's not really a comedian anymore.

    absolutely. The differences the people who prostrate themselves before identity politics so they don't lose their cushy job versus the person risking it.

    An apology from Crowder would just be a head to hang on a wall. So I think it's a good idea not to apologize.
    Saying a joke about somebody anytime you're talking about them or what they're saying is not harassment. And Bill Maher has no more control over his fans than any other personality has control of their fans. So it would be ridiculous to blame Bill Maher for the acts of his fans.
     
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    Homophobia can also mean dislike or prejudice against homosexuals.

    ho·mo·pho·bi·a
    /ˌhōməˈfōbēə/

    1. dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
    I imagine this is the context in which they mean.

    That being said I'm a gay people and I don't see any dislike. He seems to take issue with pride month, a lot of straight people do, I've met gay people that do. As well as orchestrated protests against various businesses for perceived homophobia.
     
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    In order to consider him homophobic you must show dislike or prejudice against homosexuals not Carlos Maza. I've watched a lot of his shows. He's interviewed several transgender people several gay people and never mocked them based on their sexual identity or orientation. Sewed to see a statement he made is homophobic this to be myopic.
     
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    No that's not the comedy part that's just stating the facts.
     
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    It's the same problem as the word "islamophobia". Very poorly defined word, nothing to do with what a phobia actually is, and blatant Orwellian attempt at redefining these things as a mental illness by rewriting the dictionary.
     
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    In reality the definition of word depends on common usage. And this is common usage. It's beside the point detectives I don't think it's a homophobic either in the sense that of a pathological fear of homosexuals or, prejudice or dislike of homosexuals.

    I wouldn't say islamophobia does not exist, it is rational to fear Islam. It has been since its Inception. The problem is the conflation of the ideology with the people. And people conflate them on purpose. I can criticize Leviticus without criticizing every Jew. I can criticize pastor Steven Anderson without criticizing every Christian. those points are really beside the point because those things are allowed to be criticized. However criticizing Linda sarsour is islamophobia. Not because she's Muslim but because she supports left-leaning political philosophy.

    Don't get caught up in their words for heretics. it is the my new show even if the word was banned from usage tomorrow they would just come up with something else.
     
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    With that logic "racist" means "a white person that isn't a self-hating cuck". I mean, that's the common usage half the population makes of that word.

    Pathological fear of homosexuals doesn't exist.
    Dislike/prejudice towards homosexuals does exist, however your typical Christian who wants gays to stop being gay shows neither (he only shows dogmatism), but he still gets called a "homophobe".

    Then islamophobia doesn't exist, since a phobia is defined as an irrational fear.

    Exactly my point. That's why I'm saying that this is Newspeak, not English.

    Totalitarians never sleep.
     
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    exactly. When you hear accusations of racism what do you think? Think about antifa. I don't think of the anti-fascist organization from world War II era. I think of fascists that call themselves anti-fascists.



    I would say that it does. It isn't common. One thing that comes to mind as an example is Tommy Sotomayor utterly losing his marbles when he found out Dave Rubin was gay. "Nooooooooo.... I was in his presence...." He lamented. And I don't think it was schtick.
    I would ask why someone once someone who is not themselves to stop being gay.



    that's why I said it does not exist. I just didn't use the contraction for whatever reason.


    well it is English because you do understand it you just reject its meaning. I'm just a different position I reject the word as well as is its meaning. The word homophobia is not useful outside of a psychologist's practice. That's why I often don't say it except for to play gotcha when leftist act in a way they condemn for others, or an explanation of its meaning and how it's used such as this discussion.


    I would say don't worry about it, the only reason they're freaking out and trying to ban speech they don't like is because they're losing. If you corner a raccoon it will become vicious and try to make you think it can rip you to pieces.
     
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    You sound pretty biased.

    In fact, I think the one and only reason people are defending this Crowder guy, whoever the hell he is, is because he's a conservative and he's making fun of a gay and Mexican person.

    If he were a liberal and making fun of a white conservative Christian, I suspect you'd all be saying what a piece of sh*t he is.
     
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