Zimmerman Trial (Tuesday July 9th.) MOD ALERT

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Reposting from the closed thread:

On Witness Donnelly that went on the stand yesterday and testified he had not heard the 911 call scream tape in full until this past Saturday...

Gee, look who was in the courtroom for several days last week:



Is this going to be a case where "potted palm" Zimmerman and his dirty trick Team of lawyers sat there like a dumbasses while Z's friend and "father figure" was there in the courtroom -- violating the rules of sequestration?

 

911 calls becoming heart of Zimmerman trial.

http://www.wcax.com/story/22789113/911-calls-becoming-heart-of-zimmerman-trial

 

Good catch Paperview.

As was pointed out to me yesterday, this is obviously the law... but I don't like it. How can it not influence testimony from someone, if you allow them to hear everything preceding? Just doesn't make sense to me.

 

The precedent being set in this trial is the use of physical self defense in a situation you may need to use it against an aggressor should by you a death sentence if you cause the aggressor any injuries. If the aggressor has reason to fear defeat by you or any fear he has the right to use deadly force.
His injuries need not be sufficient to kill you, even a struck to the nose or eye is sufficient reason to murder you.

 

Below are a couple links to streaming trial coverage. The first is commercial/ad free, the best in my opinion.


Uninterrupted ~ Streaming Live Trial Coverage



HLN News Feed~ http://weplaylive.tv/zimmerman-trial-live-stream/

 

Also, the nose injury happened initially according to Zimmerman's own statements. Over the next 1:30 seconds he sustained two scratches/lacerations with no other visible or obvious injuries. According to his lawyer, you don't need any injuries to make it justifiable.

 

huh? Can anyone make any sense out of this?

 

If anyone understand anything by now...they should understand the Law in Florida regarding the use of deadly force in Self-Defense......and it is not according to any defense lawer....it is according to the Law of Self Defense.

Unfortunately too many seem unable to understand the law on The Justifiable Use of Deadly Force in Self Defense

Deal wid it.

 

Like Martin's mother sitting there?
Do we know that Zimmerman and the lawyer's saw him sitting there? No. Do I believe that they plotted to have him in there? No. Does this prove Zimmerman did not act in self defense? No.

 

Not according to his lawyer , according to the law .... no evidence has been presented making goerge the aggressor ...... Just another wild theory .

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I'd like to see more then a picture with a red circle as proof ...

 

According to the law you do not have to sustain any injury. Go educated yourself on the law.

But do tell us how much harder did Martin have bash Zimmerman's head against the concrete before he suffered a concussion and a coma? 10% more? 30% more? And be exact so you can tell us how while he was having his head smashed against the concrete he was required to determine "nope that was hard enough yet, nope that one too".

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Wrong, go educate yourself on the law.

 

Amazing people come here to debate this and still do not understand the law. Of course if you listen to MSNBC or liberal news they are trying to make an issue the they were only "minor" injuries and even at that do not explain the difference between "minor" and "major" injury. Nor do they explain that NO injury is required in order to use deadly force against someone.

 

I wonder if Tracy Martin's perjury will be overlooked?

 

Of course.

 

Exactly the media has demonstrated their incompetence vividly in this Zimmerman case....yet it is much more widespread and goes far deeper than just in the Zimmerman case......there should be a congressional investigation into our media and how they abuse and misuse their power.

They are the ones primarily responsible for there being so much confusion about this case and they have stirred up the black community to the point of civil disobedience....the media must be held accountable if riots break out.

 

If the Defense calls Crump, then expect there to be an issue raised that either Crump lied under oath, or Tracy Martin did, or both. I do not think the Court would later pursue actual perjury against one or the other, but the Defense will surely illuminate that at least one of these co-collaborators in the "Its Trayvon screaming" fairytale is lying.

 

I agree, They should be held accountable if there is a loot fest like the one after Rodney King.

 

If there are any lib women on the jury then the best Zimmerman can hope for is a hung jury.

Libs will never vote for acquittal no matter how weak the case against Zimmerman is.

 

When you have politicians, and an entire political party, that rely on black-victimhood for votes, starting with Obama, and who fan the flames of such, I do not believe that the media can be effectively curtailed from doing their bidding.

 

The State wants to water-down and muddy any step-by-step representation of the facts, and especially those that shine the light on the holes in their version of events, that they will fight this demonstration by all means available.

 

interesting testimony but I have to wonder to the effectiveness in this case

 

John Good said I couldn't see their hands and he didn't know if Martin was hitting Zimmerman or not in initial testimony but later testified to possible MMA style pummeling in the cross.
Yesterday, the female officer says she cleanly saw Martin's dad say no to the lead investigator but the same lead investigator stated he never specifically said no, he shook his head saying no. The officer stated he never pressed on the no statement but someone else in the room saw it that wasn't being spoken to did.

 

The Defense wants the visual narrative as a template for the jurors, on which the Defense can then paint with veracity their version of events. It will illuminate the inability to account for Trayvon's actions during his missing 4 minutes (strongly suggesting he set the ambush), as well as how the rumble went down, through the shooting.

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The credibility issue will likely be more focused on Crump's press releases, where I believe Crump said in Deposition that Tracy Martin directed him to say certain things, and release such, while Martin said yesterday that he never directed Crump to do anything.