Zimmerman Trial (Wed. July 10th.) MOD ALERT

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    Defense winds down case at George Zimmerman trial



    http://www.statesman.com/ap/ap/crime/defense-winds-down-case-at-george-zimmerman-trial/nYkfR/
     
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    How do you guys think the judge will rule? Will she allow the animation, or not?




    http://news.yahoo.com/defense-winds-down-case-george-zimmerman-trial-081456199.html


    I believe she will likely not allow it.
     
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    She won't allow the text messages but will allow the animantion of the fight.

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    The text messages is not relevant to the case just as GZ past is not relevant to the case.
     
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    Two points. The text messages might establish a history of fighting with Martin showing it more likely he started the fight.

    And second if the text messages have nothing to do with the case the prosecution wouldnt have sat on them.

    Also if the text messages cant be used because anyone could have sent them ( the judges opinion) that sets the precedent that any text message or email could not be used in a trial.... Does she really want to go down that road?
     
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    I agree with the previous (but could be wrong). Animation yes, text messages no. What the judge said is true, anyone could have his password. Without supporting witnesses, the text messages are a problem. Not being allowed more time to depose witnesses also may give the defense an avenue for appeal if this does not go well.
     
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    I am surprised when this judge rules in favor of the defense.She is biased no doubt.
     
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    She used CASE law that they were inadmissable because they couldn't be authenticated. Big difference.
     
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    In every trial, there is always more info that either the defense or prosecution has than called in the trial. Just because the prosecution had them doesn't mean that they are relevant.

    Seond, the animation will coincede with the expert testimony by the defense, Dr. Di Maio. That is the basis why I said that would be allowed.
     
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    I just hope, for whatever reason, we get to see this idiot on the stand again!


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    Neither can emails... Anyone can log onto your computer that has access to it ~..

    Try again.
     
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    So, every case that has ever been decided, in part, by email/text/facebook posts/letters found/documents/evidence in general, unless it was recorded on video with the people in question holding up a photo id to a camera while writing said message, should be retried as those items would be inadmissible?

    "Anyone could have the password!" Is such a stupid line to take here. The standard of all evidence should be raised if this is the case. The words "could have" are speculative and the speculator should need to provide evidence to support their assertion.
     
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    Nothing like claiming something that wasn't said. It is hearsay unless there is a supporting witness. That does not mean every case that has used text messages should be thrown out. How silly.

    BTW, my GF and my daughter know the password to my phone so yes, anyone can have someone else password.
     
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    Sorry there are rarely witnesses to a text or an email being sent verfiying its the person said to be unless you think there are people hanging over your shoulder 24/7
     
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    Did you LISTEN? They have to be authenticated by testimony from some person who was on at least one side of the communication.
     
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    When someone sends you a text you are trusting its the person sending it. There is no "witness".
     
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    Which is why the prosecution withholding them is a problem. The defense wasn't given the time to authenticate the messages.

    I bet you there is some REALLLLLL damaging (*)(*)(*)(*) on them. Stuff that will truly illuminate what kind of person Trayvon was....
     
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    You still didn't listen.
     
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    I listen fine you just dont like the answers you are getting.
     
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    [video=youtube;k1Zw-NjAz-I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Zw-NjAz-I[/video]
     
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    To be honest they have this thing won by a mile without the animation in my opinion. Those jurors wont change their minds because of that,,not this late in the game. Those that were not convinced the State never came close to proving their case would have to be bias and entrenched,,hung jury time no matter what. This I believe is what the prosecution sees as it's best shot.
     
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    They have to let the text messages in, and the facebook page and all that. Too important for the case, goes right to whether or not Martin was likely to fight. Zimmerman can get picked on for calling the cops and resolving the problem peacefully 100 times, Martin's history of fighting over trivial things is just as relevant.

    It can be authenticated with call logs, and witnesses pulled in and establishing possession timelines etc..
     
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    Sorry i stopped listening after "fight" might be Code or that he doesnt know if he is fighting Andre the Giant or someone else.....
     
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