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Jolly Penguin liked yangforward's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
The British got pretty good at running a two-track system. The problem for a number of years was the heads of the departments in the NHS govt system also worked in the...
May 18, 2024 at 12:47 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
That's a good commentary on socialism (when done right) generally. Up here in Canada, which is directly beside the USA and very similar culturally in many regards, we also...
May 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM -
Jolly Penguin liked yangforward's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
But there is another big advantage - peace of mind as they call it here, a sense of security. You know how much money your children will inherit, it won't get snatched away by...
May 17, 2024 at 4:23 PM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
It sounds to me like a two tiered UHC system (like Australia's) is what you may be looking for. That way you aren't entirely reliant on the government system, but it still...
May 17, 2024 at 4:21 PM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
It should be said that UHC can involove a lot of useless beurocracy too. That can definitely exist. Though when its public, you can pass laws to make it all more transparent....
May 17, 2024 at 4:19 PM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
I don't think it should be done more cheaply. I think it should be done at whatever level of funding is needed to avoid situations such as the one you recounted above. The main...
May 17, 2024 at 4:02 PM -
Jolly Penguin liked yangforward's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
There have been a number of very good replies, I'm limited to my own experiences in a single payer govt funded service - the British National Health Service. It is not govt...
May 17, 2024 at 3:47 PM -
Jolly Penguin liked Pro_Line_FL's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
Ok, but the "single payer" means the government is the payer, and not necessarily the owner. Private insurance companies are active in increasing their profits. They owe it to...
May 17, 2024 at 3:43 PM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
Arguments can be made for two tiered systems, meaning the legality of private health insurance, and even encouragement of it, while still ensuring UHC is in place. That's a...
May 17, 2024 at 3:41 PM -
Jolly Penguin liked Pro_Line_FL's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
The question is whether or not a single payer system is "socialism". Opponents insist that it's socialism, because they know people are conditioned to balk at the mere mention...
May 17, 2024 at 8:36 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked JohnHamilton's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
We can agree on that. There are some functions which best done by government and others by the private sector.
May 17, 2024 at 8:32 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
In practice, you need some socialism for an efficient or even functioning society, and you also need some capitalism. Both are required and are appropriate for different...
May 17, 2024 at 8:28 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
That is more of an argument for rather than against UHC. No, people don't generally go get medical care they don't need just for the fun of it, because it's paid for. But...
May 17, 2024 at 8:23 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked LiveUninhibited's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
If only campaign contributions from known sources were treated as bribes. Functionally, that’s what they are. Citizens United made corruption worse.
May 17, 2024 at 8:10 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked spiritgide's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
Google the term "Medical Tourism". That's the general description. There are agencies like tourist agencies, that offer packages including airfare and expenses for surgeries...
May 17, 2024 at 8:03 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked Darthcervantes's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
Funny you mention it. I have heard many foreign medical stories like that. One that I remember is a friend got hurt while on a trip in canada, had to get something minor,...
May 17, 2024 at 8:02 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked Eleuthera's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
It seems to me that if the founders considered it a legitimate government function to deliver the mail for the citizens, it would not be a far stretch given other...
May 17, 2024 at 7:59 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked Pro_Line_FL's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
We are paying for it now, - we pay more than any other country. We pay part of it via taxation, and the other part via insurance premiums and, co-pays and other out of pocket...
May 17, 2024 at 7:49 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked Eclectic's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
There is a lot of consolidation going on in the supply side, with hospital chains and clinic chains taking over individual hospitals and individual practices. For the most...
May 17, 2024 at 7:41 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked Diablo's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
There's probably too much resistance from big pharma, who make billions out of the current system, and probably buy enough votes in the House and Senate to keep things as they are.
May 17, 2024 at 7:41 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
No, there is no sound argument against universal health care. But but but SOCIALISM!!!! Eeek!! Such a terrifying word!!
May 17, 2024 at 7:40 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked yangforward's post in the thread There is no case for private healthcare.
A market-driven economic sector is driven by the customer. More often than not the customer has no idea what is wrong with them, that's why they consult an expert. In...
May 17, 2024 at 7:38 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked ToughTalk's post in the thread Netanyahu defiant despite Biden's warning to Israel: Shakens unity in face of political rifts.
Ya I'm fully aware of his terrible woke esque hot takes that lead to dead ends (as we are living right now with Biden these past 4 years)
May 16, 2024 at 8:54 PM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread Netanyahu defiant despite Biden's warning to Israel: Shakens unity in face of political rifts.
See above. He's all about collective punishment. By his logic white people born long after slavery and who did not do anything wrong, but who have ancestors who did, should be...
May 16, 2024 at 5:31 PM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
Many of them now don't. Those who do are having trouble themselves moving around and finding resources. Indiscriminate bombing and killing by the IDF (and probably by Hamas too...
May 16, 2024 at 5:28 PM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
Most of them are.
May 16, 2024 at 10:04 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
They are kids. They have limited understanding of what is going on, may not have heard these warnings, and have limited mobility and ability to feed and protect themselves. And...
May 16, 2024 at 10:03 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
They intentionally restrict food and won't let most aid trucks into Gaza. They even fired on such an aid trick that they did let in. What do you expect to happen following that...
May 16, 2024 at 9:57 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
You don't need numbers supplied by Hamas. Israel has admitted to most of this. They just try to make excuses, usually involving collective punishment (as we see being made here...
May 16, 2024 at 9:54 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
Who recaptured escaped hostages and brought them back? All Palestinians or a specific few? They continuously keep voting Hamas in? When was the last election in Gaza?
May 16, 2024 at 9:52 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread Netanyahu defiant despite Biden's warning to Israel: Shakens unity in face of political rifts.
Lol ok then....
May 16, 2024 at 9:50 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
It isn't wrong for Israelis to want Hamas held responsible for the killing of innocent Israelis. It isn't wrong for them to want the killers brought to justice. It also isn't...
May 16, 2024 at 8:57 AM -
Jolly Penguin replied to the thread How completely moronic this free Palestine movement is..
They are not killing only those who did that. They have bombed their own citizens taken hostage and killed hostages who escaped and tried to get to them for protection. And...
May 16, 2024 at 8:51 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked Grau's post in the thread It Always Starts with the Jews..
The term "anti Semite" has been thrown around so much that it is not only meaningless but it reveals more about insulter than the insulted. Gilad Atzmon, a Jewish musician and...
May 16, 2024 at 8:44 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked TomFitz's post in the thread It Always Starts with the Jews..
Yes, and hard core Zionists insist on their right to conquer their way to a Greater Israel. And Netanyahu has clearly pandering to them, since his political survival depends...
May 16, 2024 at 8:33 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked yardmeat's post in the thread It Always Starts with the Jews..
I feel like you have managed to look in the mirror and confront your own inconsistencies.
May 16, 2024 at 8:29 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked LiveUninhibited's post in the thread It Always Starts with the Jews..
In the US, it started with the legitimate concern that the Israeli government treats Palestinians like vermin. In some cases, this unfortunately evolves into anti-semitism, but...
May 16, 2024 at 8:28 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked Bill Carson's post in the thread It Always Starts with the Jews..
I saw 'Totalitarianism' and immediately thought of the racist state of israel. I would point out that fake jews aka zionists aka the numbskulls behind israel seem to be always...
May 16, 2024 at 8:26 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked 9royhobbs's post in the thread It Always Starts with the Jews..
People that don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. You're that guy.
May 16, 2024 at 8:25 AM -
Jolly Penguin liked 9royhobbs's post in the thread It Always Starts with the Jews..
You gave these same answers on another thread and I replied with a chart of right wing "protests" from 2016 to 2022. Do you remember your response? I'll help in...
May 16, 2024 at 8:25 AM
