Israel a historical Aggressor, not only re Iran?

You might read Moshe Dayan's diaries.. The Israelis coveted fertile land and water resources.. They planned the 1967 war from the early 1950s. He describes in detail the provocations they carried out constant against Lebanon and Syria.......

 

You are thus ignorant of what Arab Christians want. Indeed, how would you explain the fact that there were (and most likely still are) numerous Palestinian/Arab Christians who were leaders and members of various PLO groups? Also, how would you explain the vast number of Christians who are allied with Hezbollah (in addition to some who fight under them) in Lebanon? Lastly, how would you explain the discontent that many Palestinian Christians have for Israel and its policies?1

1 http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=50964

 

More ranting nonsense about 'global jihads' with zero substance.

 

See Sabeel in Galilee and in Jerusalem... Its a Christian Arab outfit.. that has published an accurate history of the region since 1920 in a book called "A Palestinian Christian Cry for Reconciliation".......



http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/230607-religious-background-rabins-assassination.html

 

Hmm...I'm not sure if he/she is a troll, or simply has an irrational obsession of Muslims/Islam.

 

You're relatively new here so I would invite you to research the poster's record on the forum. You may reach your own conclusions; I couldn't possibly comment.

 

Why do we need to waste time debunking what is obvious taqiyya meant to dupe and distract gullible useful idiots? It's a complete and utter waste of time. Believe me I debunked Riff Raff more times than I can count and every time he was thoroughly debunked, he just absurdly claimed it was a straw man argument, even though he doesn't know what a straw man argument is.

In any event, what is happening in Israel is not a conflict at all; it's a perpetual jihad of conquest and it is one of many perpetual jihads of conquest that are currently being waged by the Islamic world against various non-Muslim unbelievers simultaneously all around the world.

As a matter of fact, the Islamic world likes to focus primarily on Israel to keep you distracted and incapable of connecting the dots, because they don't want you to figure it out that they are waging a covert global jihad against all non-Muslim unbelievers around the world via hot and cold jihads of conquest, such as the jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel, which happens to be only one of many that are currently being waged simultaneously around the world against various non-Muslim unbelievers, and via covert non-violent jihad, such as mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme. As Muslims never ever migrate to the West or anywhere else for that matter for the purpose of assimilating and integrating, but instead to eventually subjugate and dominate via the eventual imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

Indeed, point to one place on the planet where mass Muslim immigration has been occurring for decades and where the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants actually assimilated and integrated. There is no such place on the planet.

Open your eyes and take a look inside the Islamic world and tell me what you see. For one thing they are all Islamic totalitarian hellholes. As a matter of fact, all Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers living in the Islamic world as less than second-class dhimmi citizens in those Islamic totalitarian hellholes are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted when not outright slaughtered altogether. Meanwhile, females are treated worse than animals.

In fact, the entire history of Islam is nothing but the history of jihad conquest, harsh and degrading dhimmitude, violent oppression and systematic persecution of non-Muslims, countless genocides, cultural genocide, piracy, slavery, murder, rape, torture, and mayhem. Indeed, Islam is the most retrograde force on the planet.

Yet, somehow you are so narrow-minded with respect to Israel that you readily swallow Muslim taqiyya meant to dupe gullible useful idiots like it is crack cocaine. Give me a break. I hate to be the bearer of bad news for you bud, but just like the Jewish unbelievers in Israel or the Hindu unbelievers in Kashmir or the Buddhist unbelievers in Southern Thailand or the Christian unbelievers in the Southern Philippines or the atheist and Orthodox Christian unbelievers in Chechnya or the animist and Christian unbelievers in Southern Sudan, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum are all targets of Islamic jihad, you are as well. You just haven't connected the dots yet because you are incredibly myopic.

 

I'm ignorant...give me a break. Dude you need to update your propaganda and Muslim taqiyya, as it is outdated by a few decades. All Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers living in the Islamic world as less than second-class dhimmi citizens are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted when not outright slaughtered altogether. Hence, if you are a Christian Arab living in an Islamic totalitarian hellhole and you are asked publicly whether or not you support a second holocaust of Jews like you do, if you like your life and the lives of your family, then you better answer in the affirmative or else.

With respect to alleged Christian Arabs that were members of various PLO groups, did you just fall of the turnip truck yesterday? I mean how incredibly gullible can you be? Those alleged Christian Arabs you are talking about may have originated from Christian families, but they long ago abandoned their Christianity for communism and terrorism, and they were tolerated by the PLO since it was the communist KGB that created the PLO and the so-called Palestinians in Moscow out of whole cloth in 1964 as a disinformation campaign to camouflage the Islamic world's permanent jihad of conquest against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel under a cloak of nationalism in order to dupe gullible useful idiots.

Indeed, since the Soviet Union collapsed, those alleged Christian Arabs have disappeared, and how many Christians do you know that are communists and terrorists? Like I said, they may have originated from Christian Arab families, but as soon as they turned to communism and terrorism they became atheist and part of the Leftist/Islam alliance, unless you believe that communism and terrorism are Christian rights of passage or something. You are amazingly gullible.

As for as Christian Arabs living in the disputed territories today still being allied with the Muslims that are waging jihad perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel, only because they are coerced and don't have any other choice if they want to continue living. With respect to alleged Christian Arabs today being terrorists, that's absurd as most of the Christian Arabs in the disputed territories have been forced to flee since 1994. There aren't hardly any left and regarding the few that are still there, they are violently oppressed and systematically persecuted when not outright slaughtered altogether just like all Christians and non-Muslim unbelievers living throughout the Islamic world. Just how incredibly narrow-minded are you?

There are no Christian Arabs allied with Hezbollah, as Hezbollah has forced the overwhelming majority of Christians in South Lebanon to flee, and with respect to the relatively few that haven’t had the opportunity to flee yet, they live in an Islamic country as violently oppressed and systematically persecuted dhimmis, do you think they are going to openly support Israel? Give me a break! In fact, more than half of the Christian population of Lebanon in recent years have already been forced to flee and the rest will get out as soon as they can.

As for as the discontent goes, with the vast overwhelming majority of Christian Arabs being forced to flee the disputed territories since 1994 when Israel relinquished control of the disputed territories to Arafat, his cronies, and the Palestinian Authority, where do you think most of that discontent is coming from?

I'm wondering....is it the water? What can make people so (*)(*)(*)(*) gullible?

 

If you don't want to 'waste time' in trying to refute the OP's claims, then don't bother posting in this thread.

 

I'm laughing so hard right now.

 

This statement nicely illustrates your ignorance of Middle Eastern Affairs.

More information about the Free Patriotic Movement (the largest Christian bloc in the Lebanese parliament) can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Patriotic_Movement

Hezbollah also enjoys ties with Tashnag (an Armenian political party), and Marada (another Christian political party).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia...ion_in_Lebanon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marada_Movement

 

No, child - zionists are nazis, and very few of them are Jews. The pigs have come out of your own stye - nothing to do with me. AIPAC have the yank politicians by the dangly bits, and if you don't know that you are under treatment.

 

Quit the show he/she is!

 

I don't quite take your point. I have never met a rich banker, or a thief from our stock exchange, but they control this country. And what has zionist colonialism to do with religion? I think you are in a bit of a muddle.

 

I already have more times than I count, including the OP. Nevertheless, it's a waste of time because none of it has anything to do with what is really taking place over there, and what is really taking place over there is a jihad of conquest and it is just one of many jihads of conquest that altogether collectively comprise the covert global jihad. Of course MOD EDIT YOU CANNOT MAKE IT PERSONAL, PLEASE REFRAIN

 

Then it won't be that difficult of a task.

Yet your still here....

 

Bit like the wicked Jihad we went in for do drive Hitler out of the lands he'd stolen, eh? I think you are one confused little yank.

 

Obviously you are too incompetent to debunk any of the facts contained in my post as I expected.

Please forgive me but I'm not gullible enough to waste time reading that bogus nonsense.

Hezbollah enjoys full veto power over the government of Lebanon. In other words, Iran and Syria through their proxy, Hezbollah, enjoy full veto power over Lebanon's government. So what else is new and what does that have to do with Christians being anti-Israel and tea in china? Oh...they might pretend to be anti-Israel for appearances sake only to appease their Islamic masters, but once they emigrate they become some of the most loyal Israel supporters on the planet.

Anyway, none of this nonsense has anything to do with the perpetual jihad of conquest the Islamic world is waging not only against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel but also you as well.

 

So, ‘The Doctor’ wants to suggest that Israel invaded Egypt in 1956 because it has been attacked by the Fedayeen. But as we know, the Zionist apologists rarely provide referenced verifiable facts. So let us have a crack at the facts, shall we, and see how the documented version for Israel's invasion:

There is a very good summary of the “Suez War” which stands up to checks against other accounts.

What do you say, Doctor? Did Colonel Mordechai Bar-On incorrectly minute the meetings at Sevres? Why did he not mention the Fellaheen, never mind as the main motive for Israel’s attack.

If anyone is in doubt from his record that Israel’s attack on Egypt in 1956 was purely offensive with nothing of a ‘defensive pre-emptive’ nature to it, then you need to read item D) above again. This was the first time that the “pre-emptive strike” option was proposed. Israel was to finally use this same ploy as a justification of its 1966/1967 war against Syria, Jordan and Egypt. Her objective was LAND. She still wanted to achieve Eretz-Yisrael.

So now we have three Israeli aggressions well documented:

1) Shiva_TD's well-reasoned position that Israel's unilateral declaration of Independence was in direct violation of the Mandate for Palestine and was hence an illegal and offensive move, irrespective of later approvals by foreign countries.

2) That Israel was the aggressor in 1966/1967 as documented in the OP and the previous thread referenced therein

3) This post showing Israel's documented participation in the planned offensive against Egypt in 1956

How different from the standard Zionist Myths.

 

It's bogus nonsense and it doesn't have anything to do with anything other than to dupe gullible useful idiots.

Yeah...I'm here, but you don't see me wasting time debunking bogus taqiyya meant to dupe gullible useful idiots and that does not have anything to do with anything except to get loons sidetracked.

 

I think you are more than just a little delusional and with respect to being anti-Semitic, I know you are more than just a little anti-Semitic, you are obsessed.

 

What does any of that taqiyya have to do with the covert global jihad that Israel is one tiny part of?

 

You are out of your tiny mind, kid. You just do what the nazis tell you, and they'll be so grateful they'll put you in a camp. You are quacking like a duck again. Stop it and try reading 'If America Knew'.

 

Like I said...you are incredibly delusional and more than just a little bit anti-Semitic.

 

Yet after a number of posts in this thread, you have failed to debunk any of the OP's points. Humorous.

Interesting; even though I provided the necessary substantiations for my arguments, you claim it's all "bogus nonsense." Yet you also claim I am "too in competent to debunk any of the facts." Humorous.

Post #36.

Your nonsense has nothing to do with the OP.