Warning to My Fellow Conservatives: Don't Try to Throw Pro-Lifers Under the Bus

Obama has nothing to run on and the GOP will bring up all the bad he has done to this country as president

 

Right, and what is Obama going to do? The dems are going to fillet the republican candidate.

Newt=womanizer
Romney= spineless flip flopper
Rick sant= bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy.

And add in that Paul will get 10-15% of the republican vote from write ins, and Obama just has to have a pulse to win

 

You're absolutely correct!

IMHO - This election isn't Romney's, or Santorum's, or Gingrich's, or Paul's to win, it's Obama's to lose.

All Barry has to do is get the unemployment numbers down a little, make a some progress in Afghanistan, figure out a way to keep the Iranians from going bonkers, and not screw up for the next nine months.

If he can do that, he won't need to worry about sending a change-of-address card to the Post Office until January of 2017.

 

You think the GOP will not show all the damage and corruption from Obama?

 

Obama is losing it. Attacking the Catholic church now is a big mistake.

 

Oh they will show it, but the media will refuse to print it or will spin it away as scaremongering, warmongering, or whatever other mongering they can invent.

 

They will have to show it or Fox will. Then Obama will have to debate. There will also be pac advertisements. Obama has nothing and the character assassination and race card is no longer believable.

 

Just think a bit..how did the church respond?
UNIFYING AGAINST THE MORMON..
It cant fight a sitting president..so it fought against another religion it considers a cult.Within hours ..a guy with little support surges way ahead..a tebow moment. Romney did nothing wrong.

What did Romney do to deserve a 60 pt swing in Mn...
Besides win in Florida and Nevada ?
Nothing..

Obama used the church and he got a double winner.
Romney got hurt..and a weaker candidate emerged.

You are being played.

 

Obama is now alienating the church so he will lose

 

Talk about Clueless.Talk about LaLa Land.Even USA Today ran an
Editorial stating that Obama didn't just trample the Constitution he
" Galloped Over it ".
This was the cote de grace many have been waiting for.
The final Act.The Last Straw.
Obama went and done it.Just couldn't help from being the ever pesky
Mr.Belligerent.Only this time he picked a fight with those he CANNOT beat.
Catholics and The Catholic Church.

 

Given that a solid majority of Catholics approve of Obama's decision, why should we take your threat seriously?

Yes, the bishops are angry. But the bishops are irrelevant, given that they can only muster a handul of bitter male loyalists. Catholic women are overwhelmingly supportive of Obama, being that 98% of them use or used birth control.

 

Does not mean they will vote for him. So Catholics are now for free handouts?

 

Unify. It goes both ways guys. Libertarian/fiscal conservatives cannot win without the Christian Right and the Christian Right cannot win without Libertarian/fiscal conservatives. Unify or accept the socialist state about to sweep the nation.

 

True...until it comes to the government intrusion into religion and private hospitals owned by The Church. That is a separate issue. Someone wants an abortion, go ahead...pay for it. But don't complain if your insurance rate is higher because it allows for abortions. To have or not to have is a private matter. I don't want my money going to someone else abortion however. Just like I wouldn't want to pay for their clothing either.

 

Quote "We do not have to vote for your "fiscal conservative" candidates who don't get that abortion is an important issue."

I want everyone to re read that line TWICE.
Look at your food bill this week.
Look at your electric and gas Bill.
Look at the gas pump when you fill er up..
Look at your property tax bill..then your home value ..if you still have one.
Then look at those Homes for sale in your neighborhood.
Talk to your out of work friends..your own kids with out a job...maybe yourself or your spouse.
What really DEFINES OUR ECONOMY ?? President Obama or abortion.

Again where does ABORTION fit into any equation on fixing or running the nation ?

Does Abortion lower any of those bills ?
Did the abortion issue cause the housing crises or the National debt to triple in just 4 years ?
How did OPEC and Iran respond to abortion ?

IS THERE STILL A CHURCH out there ?
Why cant it be the defender of life..defender of the innocent..protecting our souls with a Fiscal conservative who believes in Jesus ?
Who is a leader within his own church as well as in the financial community.
A man with so little corruption ..they make it up while ignoring their own ?

He paid less taxes than some..?
That is a good thing..he understands paying too much tax to a corrupt government is a BAD thing..just like you think.ONLY he does it better.

He pays much of his Charity to his church which guides his morals..because he believes that the CHURCH is better at spending money on the needy than the government is.I wonder how social conservatives find a argument with that ?..

He switched his GOVERNMENT VIEW of abortion to match his own view and that of his own faith.. He has explained it and GOVERNED that way accordingly.Abortion rights did NOT expand under his leadership...It was the COURTS that expanded those rights ..not Romney.

So can he make the case he is The anti Obama?

He already did years ago..refusing to take money for government service.
He hasn't profited one dime..can newt or Santorum say the same ?
Lets examine their tax returns and see how lobbyist influenced their votes.

This smoke screen that we cant throw abortion under the bus is a SICK JOKE. The ultra conservatives have shot their last ammunition trying to defeat the BEST guy out there ..morally and fiscally.
Multiple meetings..secret conventions..and each time the guy the ultra right endorses goes down in flames.
Abortion Under the bus ?
No reality under the bus.

That is their FINAL STAND..why haven't they chosen to support one guy..because ... the anti Romney person is so corrupt in government leadership and historical voting success it hurts to even THINK of those people being president.
So they want to throw the whole election under the bus on ONE ISSUE ?

Who is more out of touch with the electorate..?

 

Back to the first post ...

All the GOP candidates hew to the pro-life line. So what do people see as "throwing pro-lifers under the bus"?

Best I can tell, they're defining "not making abortion the #1 priority" as "throwing pro-lifers under the bus". Given that no presidential candidate in history has ever made abortion a #1 priority, it seems to be an odd standard to hold them to.

 

Nobody is throwing pro-lifers under any rolling stock. Such talk is empty hyperbole.

But getting the budget under control is the job at hand.

There is not enough support either way for an abortion amendment, so the only way to reverse Roe v. Wade is through the same process that put it there - case law.

If pro-lifers stay home or vote for Obama, they have absolutely nothing to say when he appoints SCOTUS justicesand lower court judges hostile to the principles of the pro-life people.

 

perfectly fine with that.

 

In a word.....bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Contrary to popular liberal belief, Christians are able to think for themselves. I have never, EVER, had a pastor even hint how I should vote. Stop spreading the lies.

Here's a clue for ya, free of charge. Conservatives don't dislike Romney because he is a Mormon, we dislike him because he is a Lib.

 

Yes Romney sounds like Kerry. He was against before he was for it. Depends on what will get votes as to what he believes. He acts and talks like a Massachusetts liberal

 

The GOP Washington establishment don't care about conservatives or the religious right. Even Coulter and Huckabee reject the conservative candidate and support the liberal because they think a conservative can not win.

That is why I am a conservative independent

 

It is against the law for a church to support a candidate

 

Lies..?
What about The religious leaders that have been up front about stopping the Mormon from winning and affirming the legitimacy of that religion.?
It's in their own words.

What about Santorums money man..a Evangelical that says Mormons father babies with young girls ( last week )...? He hates Mormons and does not deny it..look it up..or if need be I will show a link I already posted here on that subject.

In MY precinct with my own eyes and ears I saw and heard a pastor give the opening prayer then go on for 4 minutes on abortion and electing the most righteous conservative.
He then sat with his 40 people from his church..The EVANGELICAL church.
There was a church BUS outside ..a Evangelical Bus..( they all stood and cheered when the vote was announced for Santorum )
In my county Santorum won with over 100 more votes..The Evangelical church was across the street .. You make your own conclusions..

A guy with 15% voter approval suddenly surges to over 55% of support in less than 2 days with no media buys..no special speeches and no Romney blunder. Then he goes away from The Evangelical base and gets CREAMED AGAIN.

FACTS are FACTS..take away the Evangelical base and newt and Santorum lose every time.In states where a caucus system is NOT USED and an 8 hour vote is allowed they LOSE again.Churches cannot pack a state wide election..they can pack a TINY CAUCUS VOTE.

Take abortion off the table and focus on the economy and they lose again..that's why we have 20 debates on moral issues.CPAC was the perfect example to show if all 3 legs of the conservative stool are examined that Romney is the best conservative out there.CPAC looked at Foreign policy..and Financial matters as well as morality as it NOT ONLY referred to abortion...but total history of leadership style as well.

The Evangelical church ONLY focuses on the MORMON issue...with abortion as a diversion from reality. They fear the Mormon actually getting elected and being great for the nation.
Not because the nation would benefit..but because they think the Mormon church would benefit.
I am not Mormon..nor will ever be..
But I would like a nation free of Obama and his war on free markets and religion.Romney is the best bet for that ideal to prosper and grow..

Not for any one religion to Force its ideals on a general population...
Abortion rights will not lessen gas prices or create jobs..The church if it had THAT kind of power would have acted already.

 

So now you are calling Catholics evangelical?

 

Nope ..not at all.

I am saying some religious leaders are convincing their flocks to vote for the current flavor of the month who is NOT a MORMON.
The Evangelicals are the MOST open in their attacks..it is easy to research..

4 years ago Romney was by far the best person in my county with way over 50 %.
I had to drive 15 miles to my caucus to a new location where all the counties caucuses were being held together...For the 1st time by the way.

The sign in sheet was passed around after the vote was taken..For the 1st time..Precinct leaders had no way of verifying that voters were actually residents or republicans.

The town where it was held had the largest Evangelical church in the county across the street.The parking lot was full..and they walked to vote.
The vote lasted under 1 hour and no vote certification process took place I was aware of.

In a state wide open primary where 8 hours of voting are allowed ..and only with a printed official ballot with a number on it .. would show if voter irregularities and a true endorsement of voters permitted to vote in THAT primary would take place. That would be with a sign in first with a address and republican registration signature.
None of that happened with a caucus like here and in IOWA and other states.
In a 1 hour vote..only the really few ( party faithful and religious in this case ) that show up get the whole shabang....and that is JUST wrong..even if my guy was to win..I want a real vote like Florida. Where a million vote..not just 30,000 ..

That is why Ron Paul likes small caucuses... they are tiny snap shots..just like his tiny straw votes all last year..and only taken with his most ardent followers on hand..
He has yet to win any state wide 8 hour vote..in Maine it was a week long vote and he still lost..
It should be a state wide Primary BINDING VOTE to encourage everyone to get out and vote..and just not allow the party leaders that extra power they enjoy.