Simple request for Flight 93

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Be happy to...soon as we've established that this lone photo is all of the available photographic evidence that 93 was buried.
     
  2. Hannibal

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    "Truther" honesty at work.
     
  3. Hannibal

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    No, you can probably obtain more from the people who worked the scene.

    Would you like their contact info?
     
  4. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would officials tell us that Mossad agents were celebrating the attacks, then invent attacks for them to celebrate, and then finally implicate Al-Qaeda for carrying out the attacks?

    Your narrative seem to be all over the map.
     
  5. Patriot911

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    Nobody but you has made that claim. We've all seen what happens when you are provided with what you asked for. Let me remind you of my last response since you can't seem to remember it.

    That is all you asked for. But let's face it. Your mind is made up. NOTHING, including God himself coming down, taking you by the hand and explaining it all to you in itty bitty words, is going to convince you otherwise. You've already shown the maturity level you handle all the other evidence, so what is the point? Some people are just too (*)(*)(*)(*) ignorant to know the truth no matter how well it is laid out in front of them. This is the trademark of the typical truther. Deny and and all evidence that goes against what you believe and hold up as gospel any evidence that might make your point. Suede's little debacle with the Mossad proved that extremely well.

    See, this is how it goes with you. You demand evidence. Evidence is provided. You pretend evidence doesn't exist. You ask for more evidence. Evidence is provided. You still pretend evidence doesn't exist.

    So I ask again, what is the point when you simply refuse to believe anything that you aren't already programmed to believe is true?
     
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    Your answer is off-topic to this thread. Why don't you answer my on-topic questions?

    Here they are again:

    Why do you think officials LIED by saying most of Flight 93 buried?

    Do you think they lied about that so they could say they recovered practically the whole plane without having to haul in and plant debris amounting to a 757? That's a very logical reason, don't you think?
     
  7. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hardly. Your question is based on the credibility of the FBI. You find the FBI perfectly credible in the Mossad case. You find them less then credible in the flight 93 case. This double standard requires explanation to provide substantiation of the claim (that the FBI claimed most of the plane was buried) made within the question.

    Your question also begs the question of whether I think the FBI lied in the flight 93 case.

    Can you explain to me why you think I think the FBI lied about the location of the flight 93 wreckage?
     
  8. Patriot911

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    You have no proof they lied. You have failed miserably at refuting the evidence presented. Pretending you've somehow proven they lied when you clearly haven't only proves you're willing to lie to make a point.

    Ah. So it isn't about how much was recovered, it is all about everything was PLANTED. So how did they go about planting all the evidence over such a large area including DNA evidence they would have had to land the plane, chop everyone up into itty bitty bits, burn them and then scatter them all over the place. OR are you going to try and pretend everyone from the collectors all the way through the forensic teams was in on it, yet not one of them has ever come forward. I love that one.

    All this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) just to try and pretend you've got proof it was all planted. All you've done is proven you are willing to knowingly lie about things in order to try and prove everything was planted. Epic fail on your part.
     
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    There you go again, making it sound like I blame the ENTIRE FBI for the actions of a few.

    Oh, so most of Flight 93 didn't bury?

    I was hoping your logic, rationality, and common sense would finally kick in that after multiple threads of you skeptic's inability to prove that more than one engine and two black boxes supposedly buried when the claim is that practically the entire plane buried. What will it take for you?
     
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    Where did the FBI ever make an official report of how much of the plane was buried? In other words, how can you claim the 'official report' is a lie when something was never officially reported?

    I know where can find the evidence you seek. Do you need the numbers again?
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Wrong yet again. He is claiming that your seemingly arbitrary belief and disbelief of the FBI makes one wonder as to the credibility of your claims. If you have evidence that some of the FBI is lying, present it. BTW, you can't make circular claims like "Flight 93 was planted which proves the FBI was lying because Flight 93 was planted". You need actual EVIDENCE. Your OPINION of how much or how little was buried is not important.

    :lol: Nice dodge, but very transparent. You need to reconcile why you believe the FBI in one case and believe the FBI is lying in another when there is no obvious differentiation between the two other than your obsessive need to prove Flight 93 was planted.


    You talking about logic, rationality and common sense is just too frickin ironic!
     
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    WAIT! WAIT!

    I know where he can get the answers!

    www.fbi.gov! The answers are there!

    This was good enough for him to use as evidence so it is good enough for everyone else to use as well.

    So, suede.... Present the report where the FBI officially claimed most of Flight 93 was buried.
     
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    Who said anything about the entire FBI? We are talking about two specific claims that are supported entirely on the credibility of the office of the FBI. The first is the claim that an unnamed source at the FBI confirmed that 2 Mossad agents were dancing during the attacks. The second is your unnamed FBI source that claimed most of the plane was buried. The first claim you believe. The second claim you do not believe. This is a double standard that needs to be explained.

    Who is your FBI source that made this claim? What makes you think this source was lying about this when the same amount of evidence supports your belief that a different unnamed agent was telling the truth about Mossad agents? Please explain your double standard.

    How is your claim that one agent is lying and another agent is telling the truth logical? You have less supporting evidence to substantiate the Mossad claim. You have no photographs of the Mossad event. There are photographs of the 93 crash scene. You have no witness testimony outside of the FBI that corroborates the Mossad claim. There is witness testimony that corroborates the 93 crash narrative. There is no physical evidence of dancing Mossad agents. There is physical evidence of the crash of flight 93.

    Where's the logic in your conclusion? I can't see it anywhere.
     
  14. suede

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    The first is not an official FBI position -- and why would they rat their cohorts out? -- The 2nd is an official FBI position.

    Here's the "source": http://www.fbi.gov

    Please show me any witness testimony that corroborates the 93 crash narrative that most of the plane buried?

    Physical evidence most of the plane buried? I'd agree it would be next to impossible to plant almost an entire 757 in the ground.

    Ironically you just answered it. Part of the logic that made me conclude that most of a 757 didn't bury is that "I can't see it anywhere," that is the evidence that most of it buried. Got any?
     
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    Wally Miller. You've been shown his testimony before. You couldn't refute his testimony nor could you prove he was lying. Well, unless you expect everyone to be a brain dead moron a.k.a. a truther. :lol:
     
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    Really? Where was this official FBI position that most of the aircraft was buried disseminated?

    Here's the official page on the FBI.gov site:

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/ten-years-after-the-fbi-since-9-11/response-and-recovery/202ashanksville

    According to the FBI the official position is that parts of the plane were found in the ground, in the woods and in a nearby pond. If you would like to corroborate this claim, I suggest contacting any of the 1400 people who worked at the scene. Included in those people would be Wally Miller, who, on video, substantiates the claim that the aircraft did indeed crash in the field in Shanksville. If that's still not enough, you can contact the family members who spoke with their loved ones. You can contact the aircraft controllers who tracked the aircraft. You can contact the folks at the NTSB who assisted the FBI in their investigation. You can contact the folks at United Airlines that received the wreckage at the close of the investigation.

    You can probably even contact your credible source at the FBI and see what he thinks.

    Who can I contact about the claim that the dancing Israeli were Mossad agents? There doesn't seem to be an FBI.gov page about that. They are the source of this claim, yes? After all, you did link the FBI.gov site as the source of your claim that photographs were taken of the dancing Israeli. Where are those photos located exactly?
     
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    Um, you just posted it! Thanks for proving our claim the official story says most of the plane buried in the ground. :clap:

    No need. We knew this was the official claim all along. However, you might want to tell Hannibal that Special Agent "Emily" lied to him.

    You mean the guy we truthers posted the video interview about which you skeptics scoffed at that he was "official enough" to report the claim most of the plane buried? You guys should call him and apologize to him for doubting what he said was the official claim.

    I'm sure someone at the FBI can answer those questions for you. Do you need their contact info again?


    Now that it's confirmed what the official story is, why did the FBI lie about the plane being buried?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The site I linked does not make this claim.

    I don't really need these questions answered for me. I'm confused as to why you don't need those questions answered for you. Clearly you feel those questions have been answered because you have come to a conclusion, yet, you've never asked the questions to begin with.
     
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    If there is no need, why did you create so many threads asking for the claim to be corroborated?
     
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    Read the paragraph you posted from it a little closer and bust out your Dictionary/Thesaurus if need be.
     
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    "Much" does not equal "Most".

    From the dictionary:

    Better 'bust out' your own dictionary.

    Looks like Emily was right.
     
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    I wonder if he needs a dictionary to define the word zero?
     
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    So why did the FBI lie about the plane being buried?
     
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    They didn't.
     
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