i think some of me was genetically modified corn give lunch some time and im part previously pig and chicken and wheat and whatever the hell miracle whip is made out of
How strange. Someone on a message forum wants someone else on a message forum to explain their beliefs, and what they base them on, on a thread about a subject that no one is ever going to take at face value. Whatever next....
Yes, people are entitled to be as self deluded as they like. It doesn't make the delusion real though, albeit they will insist that it is.
It seems like you like to pick a subject that you know that there is no proof and none can be given that will stand up in court in order to appear well versed on the subject and deny what ever anyone says or believes. Is this how you get your jollies?
Oh, no doubt they were paid stooges - just like the 'healing' tv evangelists' who get a 'crippled' person on stage and he dances away after being 'healed'..... OTOH, hypnosis, itself, is an interesting subject - I've read several books on it. I have 2 friends who went to a hypnotist to quit smoking and it worked. Both had to go back for the 2nd time, then it kicked in and they never smoked again. Also have a friend who went under hypnosis to have teeth extractions for dentures... not one pain killer and it worked..... Oh yeah! Also, when my son was little, he was a bed wetter and I hypnotized him every nite for about 2 weeks not to wet the bed and it worked.... hey! that's much better than the dam pills that would have mottled my son's pretty teeth and the pills weren't 100% effective anyway....... hypnosis is.
So you started this poll to find someone who believes in the idea of past lives, with the intention of ridiculing their beliefs and mocking them for it? How nice. Obviously, it must be. I have heard that overweight people have been hypnotised to believe they have a gastric band. They don't, of course, but immediately after, they can't eat as much, and lose weight. I think hypnosis does work, when done by the right people, and it could help many people quit smoking or lose weight when nothing else has worked.
I made the claim because it was my personal experience. You cannot prove that it didn't happen, because you didn't experience it. You are now dismissing it entirely because it is something that you cannot discount.
What do you want me to do? Agree with every single absurd, baseless, and infalsifiable fantasy or delusion, that someone happens to harbour? Look, on another thread recently, we had a member believing that a Chinese farmer had sex with a ten foot female alien, that he told his wife. and that his wife was okay about it. Doesn't that just sound ridiculous? Do you suggest we give that credibility?
When did you say it was a personal experience? Anyway, just because you cannot entirely explain an experience that you may have had, you don't leap to perhaps the most fanciful of explainations, and think that it is evidence that you have 'lived before'. You consider all the more plausible explainations, some of which were cited by anothe member.
Has it ever crossed your mind that there is no proof for anything of those things, from ghosts, to alien abductions, to past lives, to angels, because they simply do not exist? Do you not consider the truth to be important, or would you sooner live in a world where people lived ignorant, and put their trust in a pack of BS that has no evidence? How about addressing that, and the actual subject matter? If you have something interesting that may change my mind, let us all see it. If not, then all you are doing is trolling the thread.
Hypnosis does help people to quit smoking, but only those who really want to...... the person has to have a deep-seated determination to quit. Those who think 'yeah, I think I should quit' doesn't work and it's the same w/overweight people....... Some police departments use a hypnotist to help someone remember details of a crime they witnessed.....
I quit smoking by putting a big fat rubber-band on wrist and snapping it whenever I felt like having a cigarette, just to remind my subconscious mind that smoking is stupid. Smoke free twelve years.
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Look, Jack - no one is asking you to agree w/anyone.... you started this thread and you're getting replies about someone's experiences - what did you expect? Thousands of people have had deja vu experiences - are you saying all those people are wrong? Many have had near-death or after death experiences and have talked about it..... was their experience a 'fairy-tale'? Not hardly. This is what they saw and felt and for many, it changed their lifestyle for the better.... For many yrs I've read about reincarnation, apparitions/spirits (or ghosts)/ angels. Several yrs ago the subject came up w/someone about angels and/or ghosts and I really got curious and decided to take a 'poll'.....I asked MANY people if they believed in angels/ghosts and everyone of the women said 'yes' but most of the men said 'no'.......and the woman told me her experience...... are all those people wrong?
Well, from what the poll results tell us, no one here does have personal experience, do they - since that is the only box not to have gathered any votes. So, if not personal experience, most of what has been offered up has been second or third hand accounts, or something that has been read in books which are not objective, and therefore, worthless, other than to reaffirm something to those that buy them, already wanting to believe. Your poll is evidence of nothing, I could run a poll consisting of four scientologists and an atheist. The question could be 'Do you think Scientology is the one universal truth'. 80% of those that answer would do so in the affirmative. Does that make them right? Hardly.
Given an infinite number of Universes..there would therefore be infinite possibilities; including an exact duplicate of yourself existing simultaneously in another Universe...only they had orange juice for breakfast this morning and you didn't...in another Universe, perhaps your "self" in that Universe had apple juice. Infinity changes the ball game....possibilities become inifinite as well. Reincarnation is therefore possible.
My next door neighbour approached us yesterday to say his son knew me really well at school. He told me the guy's name and I don't remember him at all. He was surprised as the guy knew me very well. This is not uncommon, I have one of those demeanors people tend to remember while I just don't seem to register them at all. I've had many people say the same thing, one of the worst, a guy said he sat beside me on the bus every single day and carried my bag for two years...no recollection. My sister remembered him vividly and tried to jog my memory. I kind of remember a faceless boy who used to be there, but don't remember his face even now. Digging into my memory I think the neighbour's son was actually my home room teacher and not another pupil, for a good couple of years. I still can't remember his face and I'm amazed he remembers me at all, because it's all those years ago and he must have taught thousands of people since then if he is a teacher. If I wait a couple of days, I know from experience that all of the information I have on the guy will be regurgitated by my brain when it has time to process the request but there is an equal chance that had I met him somewhere random, I might just think it was some kind of deja vu and never realise I have known him previously. This also happens with places and experiences shared with family who are now deceased. I think I've been somewhere before, but without them to say "Yes you were here on holiday as a child" how can that ever be verified? To answer your question, yes, I think all of those people are mistaken. The human brain is a strange thing and not always accurate or trustworthy, it is susceptible to outside and subconscious influence which can be randomly misinterpreted.
Let me vote for personal experience, to frazzle the minds of the "logical thinkers". The fact is that I just know things that are experiences that could not have possibly come from my life. Is that a knowledge from previous lives that may or may not be mine? I don't know. But my experiences are a fact, and I don't do drugs and I am not diagnosed with anything. asdsasd asdsasd
My poll was simply taken out of interest of what people believe and what many said they had experienced themselves. I've heard some really interesting stories and who am I - or anyone -to say they're lying? Or it's just a figment of their imagination? Not sure about your comparison b/t 4 Scientologists & 1 atheist... of course the scientologists would believe their belief is the universal truth. In their mind, they are right - you try to prove them wrong. Because I know some of these people so well - one of them has been a very close friend for around 30 yrs.... I know her and when she told me about a strange experience she had, I believe her - adding that she didn't tell me when it happened b/c she didn't want me to think she had gone bonkers... Hindus believes in reincarnation - prove them wrong.
I'm sorry, but what does this have to do w/anything? It's not unusual to not be able to remember someone or a face from many decades ago and particularly someone who was not an important part of your life anyway.. The guy remembers you, you don't remember him ... happens all the time.
I never dreamed about the stopping part. I have only dreamed (that I remember) riding the camel...and yes it was VERY different from a horse...more like a swaying? but I am not saying that I was a camel rider in a past life, I just think it is something interesting to think about. We obviously don't know what happens when we die, if anything does so it's all pretty academic anyway.
well, how do you know that it is a physical reaction and NOT a spiritual one then? I mean, if you are dying, you're dying...you think God is sitting up there going "Ok, he's just faking"? that's not proof of anything other than near death experiences in the lab are similar to what has been reported by people that have had near death experiences in the real world.
