http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/doma-unconstitutional-ruling-appeals-court-boston_n_1559031.html This is a massive step forward for equality in this country. It's a good day to be an American.
"...court kept its ruling narrow, declaring unconstitutional only the section of the law on federal benefits. "The 1st Circuit said its ruling would not be enforced until the Supreme Court decides the case, meaning that same-sex married couples will not be eligible to receive the economic benefits denied by the law until the high court rules." Nothing has changed, other than another Leftninny gay activist judge weighing in, to make his teenage boyfriend proud, I'd wager...
Yes! And not too soon. At least in this area, we are going in the right direction: a positive step towards gay rights. . .which really are no different than HUMAN rights.
I agree. . .but in the mean time, "marriage benefits" should be available to ALL married couples, no matter independent of "genitalia!"
DOMA will fall, I have no doubt, but the sharing of federal benefits marks a major step forward in the fight for equality. It's one of the key parts of marriage benefits that gays are fighting to claim. So, whether you acknowledge it or not, it's a major step forward.
Considering that one was appointed by Reagan, and one by Bush I, there was only one other. And BTW it was a 3-0 vote.
Most Americans agree with shared benefits, via CIVIL UNIONS, but will continue to vehemently oppose the redefining of "marriage",and will remain successful in doing so.
A lot of smoke and mirrors by the look of it, since even if DOMA is found unconstitutional by the SCOTUS, it won't affect the states' right to their own definition of marriage. FF&C doesn't apply here either, because if the 8 gay states try to invoke it, the straight states could invoke it as well. A federal law standardizing marriage is the only hope for the gays, and since the majority of the states oppose same-sex marriage, I don't see the lawmakers in Congress, who represent all the states, passing a bill like that in this lifetime.
And, BTW...so what? Gay marriage has been VOTED DOWN 33-0 by the People, yet you still try to force it upon us.
I agree, however removing DOMA, at least chipping away at it, pushes in the right direction. I actually do believe that in my lifetime I will see federal equality in marriage. It may take another forty years, but I have faith that it will happen.
In all honesty I don't really care what they call it, as long as it has ALL of the same benefits, not just a portion of them. The name doesn't mean much to me, however I know the gay right lobby won't settle for a retitling of what a marriage is essentially.
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Heh. I've had the same thought. I figured eventually the entire Western world will have gay marriage... and from that point probably a hundred years later, gay marriage will be gone and gays will be executed by having walls pushed over on them, Islamic style. Although I'll miss our western culture, I figure all I have to do is give lip service to conversion, grow a beard, and collect a few more wives and I'm good to go! As far as DOMA goes, it seems like it's pretty cut and dried that it's unconstitutional, although this ruling is just the beginning of the process. The Supremes have to make the final call.
Yes. . .but look at WHEN those states (all very conservative) voted. . .and look at the evolution since then!
Seems redefining marriage as civil union, and providing this to all that seek it, would be acceptable. Marriage would also need to be redefined, and a a religious ceremony.
A civil union can never be equal per the SCOTUS in 1954....Separate is inherently unequal. That is why prop 22 was struck down in California before prop 8.
Ummm if DOMA is found unconstitutional then its also unconstitutional for the states. Thus legalizing gay marriage.
I don't know any gay person that wouldn't be ok with civil union as long as it was recognized in the same light as traditional marriage. California recognizes civil unions but the Fed Govt does not. Just trying to file income taxes in CA for a couple under a civil union is insane. BTW, what did the SCOTUS determine in 1954 that states that a civil union can never to equal to marriage? IMHO, the SCOTUS will ultimately rule that denying any 2 adults the ability to join in a union equal to, or actually in a marriage, is unconstitutional. I also believe that such a ruling will come sooner than later.
According to the Bible, and even secular culture, everyone inherently knows that homosexuality is immoral and unnatural. There is only one way to suppress this inherent knowledge and that is to normalize homosexuality and attack any opposition to it. The best way to normalize homosexuality is to place gay marriageon equal footing with traditional marriage. Romans 1:18-32 illustrates this. The truth is known because God has made it plain. The truth is rejected and replaced with a lie. The lie is then promoted and the truth suppressed and attacked. The vehemence and anger expressed by many in the gay rights movement to any who oppose them is an extremely good indication that they know they hold an indefensible position. There is an accurate description of the gay rights agenda in Romans 1:31, “they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.” This is Romans 1: 18-32 just in case you don't know where to find it: 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.