DeeDee's troubling testimony to the prosecution

Well if he was under the clubhouse porch or the mail station, yes Trayvon would have to cross the street to walk home.... and GZ car would be in the street.

I wonder how long GZ observed Trayvon before he called 911.. I wonder if Trayvon came thru the main gate or from the wooded shortcut thru the fence.

He didn't put his hands down his pants he touched or secured the cellphone he was wearing the the waist of his jeans before he began running.

So I don't know how he could be walking or looking around for very long..

 

Bravo.

Seriously, what makes some people think they know the actions of a kid they never knew? The bottom line in this case is he could have ran home and had ample time and he didn not. There is no debating it whatsoever. I wonder where his keys were to the house as well?

 

Please place this thread in the law and justice forum where it belongs.

 

The cops say that GZ contradicts himself and the physical evidence.

The audio expert says someone is saying, I'm beggin you ... Stop.

The witness "John" who ran into his house from outdoors says that he yelled at them to stop and that he was going to call the cops.

So Trayvon stood up walked back and fell after he was shot?

 

Why dont you stop spamming every thread? Last time I checked you were not a mod, and its getting stupid already, you dont even follow this case or participate, who are you to command anyone around?

 

Trayvon didn't need a house key.. 14 year old Chad was there.

 

You said crossed the street past his truck, still unsupported.

Who cares, we know Martin walked around the truck for over 42 seconds as described. Doesn't sound very frightened to me.

Who cares?

Yes he did according to the descriptions of what he was doing Zimmerman gave to the dispatcher.

Pure and utter conjecture.

That you "don't know" is your problem, the transcript of the 911 call shows he walked around and stared at and acting menacingly towards Zimmerman for over 42 seconds.

 

Wonder what he was using the cigarette lighter for.

 

You know, on the 7/11 tapes, he gets those three kids to buy him a blunt, possibly even two, because he gave them two dollars, but they did not find any blunt wrapper on Trayvon Martin, or any weed. I suspect he ditched that on the porch that night and that is probably what made Tracy Martin really think something was wrong. I dont think it was out of the norm for tray to go out on his own for days, but to leave the weed behind.......... He really did get a blunt at 7/11 so where was it if he had just gotten into the complex after the walk from the store?

 

He probably smoked.. That why people carry lighters.

 

Did you see the blunt put in Trayvon's hand?

 

You should look at the slideshow presentation first and then listen to the 911 tape..

 

Niiiice!

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/30/video-by-sam-zenmaster/#comments


I was reading through these comments, and is it really true Trayvons two front teeth were capped because he got them knocked out in a fight? Also, did Sybrina really say his favorite "hobby" was eating? Seriously?

 

Again, I'll ask a simple question - How do you know who Zimmerman stopped and questioned?

Enough with the conjecture, enough with the self-serving semantics, enough with the pseudo-righteousness - just answer the question.

How do you know WHO Zimmerman may have talked to in the two years before the shooting?

 

Do you have the link to that video showing T did those things? We would really appreciate being able to see the video too!

 

I wonder if there is a location between the store and the complex where he could have stopped and rolled his blunt? In 40 minutes after he left that store, he had to have been back at his dads like he told that girl, and thats prob where the blunt papers and weed were found.

 

You make the following claims:

"He didn't put his hands down his pants"
"he touched or secured the cellphone he was wearing the the waist of his jeans before he began running."
"Trayvon didn't need a house key.. 14 year old Chad was there."

How much of that did you actually see?

At least with the 7/11 tapes you can actually see something that would lead a reasonable person to believe that Trayvon asked those kids to buy him a blunt. But I guess it's quite a stretch to ask people to be reasonable that aren't really interested in the truth when it doesn't fit with their personal agenda.

 

I have a teenage boy.............I can tell you he eats a lot, but if asked about his hobbies that isn't the only thing I'd be able to come up with.

 

You make the following claims:

"He didn't put his hands down his pants"
"he touched or secured the cellphone he was wearing the the waist of his jeans before he began running."
"Trayvon didn't need a house key.. 14 year old Chad was there."

How much of that did you actually see?

At least with the 7/11 tapes you can actually see something that would lead a reasonable person to believe that Trayvon asked those kids to buy him a blunt. But I guess it's quite a stretch to ask people to be reasonable that aren't really interested in the truth when it doesn't fit with their personal agenda.

 

He called the cops on every time he saw something amiss. Once again. Serino checked the logs and noted in the affidavit that between the time Z became a resident and the night of the shooting, he only reported black guys as suspects.

It looks to me like your defense is rather reaching and it is designed to fail, even if you cannot yet see how.

Once again, you want us to believe Z never saw a white guy he didn't know under the same conditions he saw T in a 2+ year period of living in Twin Lakes. Then we can look at the weather conditions and time of day he called the cops on the other blacks he saw. I believe at least two were during daylight hours when it was sunny. Then you would have to get us to believe Z never saw a white guy he didn't know during daylight hours when the sun is shining.

Like I said man, give it up. But you wanted to push it so now your embarrassing position is only getting worse.

 

You mean things like:

Bluesguy
" For more than 42 seconds he walked around where he was parked checking him out, staring at him, putting his hands down his pants, acting menacing."

 

I can't speak for Margot, but what we do know is T already had his hand in his pants when he was looking at Z because he was holding his phone. Since it was raining, it kind of makes sense he was keeping it out of the rain. What do you think?

We know from the scene of the crime and phone records T was on the phone when the physical fight began. Some people tried to claim T put his headphones in his pocket because they were too lazy and ignorant to read the police report that stated his headphones were on the ground next to his dead body within minutes of the shooting and before ems arrived.

Since his brother was home, it makes perfect sense he didn't need a key. Some people read dumb ass websites like conservativetreehouse, see something they think is interesting posted by a different idiot, then plagiarize the idea by bringing it up here.

The bottom line is there was no blood or DNA from Z on T's hands, under his fingernails, his cuffs, or lower sleeves. There is absolutely no evidence T ever touched Z's gun and the GSR test on Z came back showing a SINGLE lead particle on his coat sleeve. One. Single. Particle.

 

The only thing that is embarrassing is your steadfast belief in Zimmerman's guilt in light of what the questionable evidence shows.

I'm not sure if you comprehend English, so again I'll ask --

How many people did Zimmerman talk to in the two years before the shooting incident?

Read the question carefully, please. It's not "How many people did Zimmerman report to the police in the two years before the shooting, and what was their race?", the question is "How many people did Zimmerman talk to in the two years before the shooting?"

I'm asking you a specific question - please quit dodging the question and answer it.

Don't reply with what we're being led to believe, or what we must assume if my comment is correct, or how reaching my alleged defense may be, just answer the question - if you can.

But as you and I both know - you can't.

You don't know whom Zimmerman might have interacted with in the two years before the shooting, you don't know under what circumstances he interacted with these people, you don't know what their races may have been, their ages may have been, or their gender may have been.

So please stop with the speculation, the innuendo, the half-baked reality masquerading as truth, and stick to the facts.

And the simple fact is - you don't know.

 

I don't need to show how many people he talked to because that was not your claim. You claimed all conditions being the same, Z would have done the SAME thing even if it was a white guy. One of the actions taken by Z was to call the cops to report a suspicious person.

Once again, you want us to believe in a 2+ year period Z never saw a white guy he didn't know under the conditions of someone walking at 7 pm with a hood up while it was raining.

You know you can't sell that so you keep trying to change your words to avoid admitting you are flat out wrong.

Eta: I think Z is guilty based on all the evidence. At least I am honest about my position and don't claim to be "impartial" just for a freshman quality attempt of gaining credibility that is not earned.

 

I don't have to see it to know its true.

He always clipped his phone at his waist.

And there is NO question about Chad.

Did you see or hear Trayvon buy a blunt?

There was no blunt on him.