Bluesguy

Cannot believe Obama got back on the trail, and Illinois of all places, lol

Hey BG, its good talking to you on here. CS

Hey Guy! Good to see you

holy post count batman! did you see your post count? :)

Jes popn in to say hi....

explained my position to you 3-4 times......

No you didn't explain, it you stated it. You said you had moral objects, I asked what they were. Why so touchy about it?

Has nothing to do with war, this is about mothers killing their babies. You believe in the sanctity of life but support mothers killing their babies. Care to reconcile that on the public boards?

I believe in the sanctity of life, but I also think war should be legal (though you will never catch me in an army) when nation states feel wronged. Is that a gotcha moment?

Actually I did not bring up abortion first... someone else brought up the point of all the various things they wanted to be made illegal.

I explained my position to you 3-4 times, believe me I have thought it through. I get offended when you suggest I support something cause I think it should be legal. I think beer should be legal, but I don't support its serving to kindergardeners. There are rules and I have compassion for those forced to make such a horrible decision, compassion enough to allow their decision to be legal.

Because I do not automatically project my personal beliefs onto society at large... now can you please get off me re:my opinion of abortion. Have you noted I have not even asked you your position and you are being a jerk delving so deeply into mine.

Just a Fan, and you?

Finally a fitting Avatar for you!

Dude,... when are you gonna get a kewl \"Bluz\" oriented avatar?

You don't have a defense because your argument is flawed.

IF you want to debate the issue do so in the public forum, I do not carry on private debates.

Simulated drowning is torture; so is:

"facial hold," "facial slap," "stress positions," "sleep deprivation," a technique called "walling," in which a detainee’s shoulders are repeatedly smashed against a wall, and the "attention grasp [8]," in which the detainee is placed in a choke-hold and slapped.

http://www.propublica.org/article/newly-released-olc-memo-inadvertently-reveals-missing-detainee-0416

And since we did not engage in such as determine by our legal authorities and agreed with by the congressional leadership.............

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 113C > § 2340

§ 2340. Definitions

(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;

(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—

(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;

(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;

(C) the threat of imminent death; or

(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality;