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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would you add them?
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did I ever say I had a great command on statistics? You must not realize millions of people have given up looking for a job.
     
  3. Right is right

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    According to you, if we say something true, logical and founded in measurable certainty then we are spewing hate from our pores? It is not our fault that Obama has failed, miserably. He took a job he wasn't fit for and the results of this are onvious to any thinking person.

    All i hear from you is the same lame-ass baseless accusations and not a shred of evidence to back them up. You are a walking book of liberal catch phrases.
     
  4. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because they're unemployed and were looking for work so they obviously wanted t a job but gave up looking for something that doesn't exist. You do realize those folks vote don't you?
     
  5. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where are 4 million people who are unemployed and looking for work and who are not counted in the number of people employed?

    Source please.
     
  6. exotix

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    The right wing ... that is, Bush neocons still in office and the tea party austerity are the snail-darters of America and Western Global recovery ...

    They simply use a tiny (invisible) rule to accomplish catastrophic economic recovery & conditions ... filibuster as obstruction for super-bill passage ...

    In addition, they paralyze congress with bills from abortion to the U.S. Motto ...

    Conservatives get out.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll post it when I get home from my Obamanomics under employed job.
     
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    It will be always raising till Obama get voted out!
     
  9. Grokmaster

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    WHile losing ten times as many.

    LAst week saw new jobless claims of 383,000 in ONE WEEK. 69,000 jobs added in ONE MONTH.

    -383,000 in ONE WEEK +133,000 in ONE MONH=(FOUR WEEKS). = -250,000 JOBS in just ONE WEEK.

    Only in LEftninny Doofiworld could that be called "adding jobs to the economy"...
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Posting completely irrlevant non-sequiters will not save your argument, as you clearly do not have one...
     
  11. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude, are you intentionally trying to show off your ignorance?

    This is at least the second or third time you've tried to make some point like this. I mean, from a partisan point of view, I appreciate how you make conservatives as a group look silly when you make a ridiculous post like this and then add something like "Only in LEftninny Doofiworld could that be called "adding jobs to the economy" to it, it's actually pretty funny, but I am really getting embarrassed for you.

    What you are doing is nonsensical. You are trying to add a net monthly jobs figure (the 133,000 from ADP) with a weekly unemployment claims figure (383,000).

    The ADP number is a net monthly jobs figure already includes the gains and losses for the month. In other words, if you add all the created for the month, and then subtract all the jobs lost for the month, you end up with a net increase of 133,000 jobs for the month of May. So when you are subtracting a weekly jobless claim number from it, you are subtracting something that has already been included in the computation.

    Second, the weekly jobless claims number is not a measure of the number of people who lost there job, but a subset of that. It does not include people who lost their jobs but are ineligible for benefits. So you're not using the right job loss number for what you are trying to do.

    Finally, even if your computation did make any sense, the fact that 250,000 jobs were lost in just one week is not anything extraordinary. During the 8 years Reagan was president, about 400,000 jobs were lost every single week on average.

    I appreciate I'm one of the "Leftninnies" in your bipolar world, but I just couldn't let you go on embarrassing yourself this way.
     
  12. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bullcrap. You haven't the faintest idead WTF you are babbling about. The 133,000 "jobs added" number is arrived at by a SURVEY; the NEW UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS are HARD DATA, and are completely seperate from the jobs data and tabulated WEEKLY. They DO NOT COUNT people ALREADY OUT OF WORK, but only thosse who JUST LOST THEIR JOBS. And you are correct, there are EVEN MORE PEOPLE who lost their jobs, but are not eligible for benefits, so the net gained/loss number is even WORSE than I cited.

    They are NOT considered when the jobs survey is done, so that dupes like you continue to post glaringly idiotic claims about the unemployment situation.

    Make up some more bullcrap to support your ridiculous pretense that the economy is recovering...and jobs are "up"...
     
  13. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Heh heh.

    No one can say I didn't try. : )
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah. No can say. Your bullcrap just doesn't fly to anyone who bothers to actually read it. Get used to it...

    And then tell us all how "great" this is:


    WASHINGTON - June 1, 2012 (WPVI) -- The U.S. economy suddenly looks a lot weaker.


    U.S. employers created only 69,000 jobs in May, the fewest in a year, and the unemployment rate ticked up.

    The dismal jobs data will fan fears that the economy is sputtering. It could also damage President Barack Obama's re-election prospects. And it could lead the Federal Reserve to take further steps to help the economy.

    The Labor Department also said Friday that the economy created far fewer jobs in the previous two months than first thought. It revised those figures down to show 49,000 fewer jobs created. The unemployment rate rose to 8.2 percent from 8.1 percent in April, the first increase in 11 months.



    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/business&id=8685154

    Looks like "everyone is wrong" about the economy, except you and the other Leftninnies....
     
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    Whether a ! or a ? makes little difference.Obama hasn't created a single NET job since
    being Elected.He did manage to booger-up the unemployment number thru whisking away
    1.2 million who were previously recorded as part of the Total Labor force,back in January.
    This was a concerted effort to misapply u3 and u6 applications.
     
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    Did ya really need to ask?
     
  17. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh huh. And how does that article, which says 69,000 jobs were added in May, support your clever calculation that about 250,000 jobs were lost in May?
     
  18. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is simply false.

    Over 4.2 million net new private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.
     
  19. Grokmaster

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    They are simply not included in the government's ficticious "jobs added" bullcrap.
     
  20. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fictitious? Now the post you cited to support your position is "ficticious"? Why are you citing fictitious data to support your argument? Do you normally rely on fictitious information for your positions?

    You're cracking me up dude. What numbers are you saying are not included in what "ficticious jobs added" bullcrap? The weekly unemployment claims? Why would they be?
     
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    That is utter nonsense, a myth created by Leftninny Math,and a complete disregard for the total employment /unemployment picture.

    A "snapshot" of one small part, while ignoring the JOBS LOST over the same time, in addition to the people no longer counted as "unemployed", because they are not claming benefits or counbted as seeking work.
     
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    You're the one who just got doen saying that the unemployment claims are "added in" with the "jobs gained" number, which is, of course, utter nonsense.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, you do have to do a little bit of math, I agree. For those with that capability, here is the data:

    Total Private sector employees
    Jan 2010 106800
    May 2012 111040

    http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm
     
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    How can the unemployment rate RISE, if there was a NET INCREASE IN JOBS, including offsetting the new jobless claims?

    Duh....Math, one of The Great Mysteries to the Left...
     
  25. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Heh heh, where did I say that?
     

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