Should we ban Indonesia as a holiday destination?

Just having thoughts on a fair reaction to the Lady Gaga concert, which was cancelled due to death threats from Indonesian hardcore Islamentalists/fundamentalists.
Many of my countrymen/women fly over and spend their hard earned cash in a country, which is obviously undermined or ruled by people, who don't want us and our lifestyle.
I think that really gives me the (*)(*)(*)(*)s. Should we stay away, until they wake up?
Once our A$ are not spent there anymore, they have to deal with the problem among themselves and sort it out among themselves!
Any thoughts? By the way, I don't even like Lady Gaga or her music/shows....

 

This behaviour should highlight to even the most simple of people (Australians included) that Indonesians don't like us, and they don't want us, but they DO want our free $500million tax payer funded aid every year and out technology. When are the European Australians going to wake-up and realise these people are not our friends and don't want to be our friends, nor do they want our lifestyle - considering 90% of the population is Muslim.

I think maybe its time that European Australians stopped trying to fit in with the Asian, Middle Eastern and African people who come here to Australia, and started to make them fit in with us. Too long have European Australians been "hood-winked" by the term multiculturalism, when the true term of multiculturalism really means; I'm coming to your country to live, not to adapt or fit in.

 

Nice edit racist

 

Perhaps "boycott" is the proper term rather than ban

Culldav, wtf? m2catter is talking about going there (or not).

 

Rescue,
you are 100% right, *boycott* is much better, sorry it was to early in the morning, brain not on full working speed....
Cheers bud

 

The point is: they hate Western society, but they like western free aid money and Western technology regardless of whether or not we go there or they come here. How the hell is boycotting there country going to help, when the troll queen has just signed an FTA with them. LOL LOL I would bet money that the FTA favours them over Australians. Australians are a really stupid people who have allowed really stupid politicians to make really stupid decisions favouring everyone else except the Australians. One day really soon, Australians will realise the really stupid things they have allowed politicians to do in their name. Politicians create a word "multiculturalism" and say it works, and the sheep without question believe it, even thought they look around them and the evidence is different.

Politicians are allowing this once beautiful country to be turned into one giant open cut strip mine, because they have allowed manufacturing and everything else to die in this country, and the only income left, is the profits from digging up and mining this countries natural resources - but that won't last forever either, and then what?

 

Culldav I don't think we Aussies are stupid. Perhaps complacent to a stupid level. I don't think we can only blame politicians for the demise of our manufacturing sector. We as consumers have to take a large portion of the blame. You see for as long as I can remember Aussies have always wanted something for nothing. So we didn't give much thought to our neighbors when we purchased that new Hyundai. You see we have a certain standard of living here in Australia. This requires money. So these poor buggers in the Holden factory would have to work for $5 an hour to compete with Koreans in the same field. $5 an hour doesn't buy much bread and milk now does it ? So in part we as consumers hastened the demise of local manufacturing, and most definitely deserve as much blame as politicians.

 

I wouldn't ban it as a holiday destination, but I would boycott it. Not because of the thing with Lady Gaga, but because of Schapelle Corby. I have boycotted all things Indonesian since 2005, and wouldn't be caught dead visiting that country.

 

Slippery, with all due respect. it’s the intellectual stupidity of the people in this country that is the major driving force that’s causing the problem. Australia is not ranked 41 on the international IQ table for nothing, and the people allowing their country to turn into a garbage tip really supports the international table of evidence.

Where the people of other countries are ousting their corrupt politicians and leaders; here in Australia the people (sheep) graze merrily along like nothing is happening, even thought its happening right before their own bloody eyes. If this is not clear evidence enough to show blatant stupidity in a population, then I don’t know what would be!

Yes. I agree everyone likes to buy a bargain, but the rot started to happen in Australia when Australian politicians allowed cheap imports to flood into the Australian market, instead of taxing those cheap imports and making them competitively priced with Australian manufactured goods and products.

Check out these Asian countries where these cheap goods are flooding in from, and see what their Government tax is on imported Australian goods and products - I will bet you a bottle of Chivas that their tax is much higher on Australian goods entering their countries than ours is on theirs.

We are about to have a FTA with Indonesia and Malaysia, and I will bet you again that there is more limitations placed on what Australian goods and products can be traded in their country verses theirs in Australia. There is probable “no-holes-bared” on their goods and products entering Australia, but limitations placed on Australian goods and products entering their respective countries.

I’m really not proud to say this, but Australians are just backward dumb-arse people, who’s intellect only extends to living off the glory of their athletes ( they now even call some “hero’s&#8221 gambling, one of the worlds largest consumers of alcohol, and would bet on two flies crawling up a wall.

If you are an individual with any intellect and can think beyond the square, you are reduced to finding a small specific group of likeminded people, or you are forced to dumb yourself down with alcohol and drugs, and talk about sport and reality TV shows just to fit in. Welcome to the Australian intellect!!

It might be wise for Australians to wake-up to themselves and realise that the ethnic people who came here don’t want to always drink alcohol; take drugs; gamble or constantly talk about sport and reality TV shows; as they might be interested in more intellect things, and that’s the real reason why they don’t mix with “Aussies” OIE OIE OIE.

Check out the “names” on the list of the top 10 HSC student results throughout Australia, and once again I will bet that over half all the names on the list are either Asian or foreign. You won’t see many Brown, Smith, or Jones names on the list. LOL

Seriously do yourself a favour and ask any business what they think of “Aussies” and they will say in return, that they love “Aussies” and most countries love “Aussies” but these backward dumb-arse Australians “THINK” its because of their good nature, but its really because they are considered unintelligent and easy to con.

If you don’t believe me about the common intellectual stupidity of the Australian people and its politicians, just check out the latest of what Gina Rinehart has just accomplished. She has single handedly outwitted the troll queen “Dullard” and her clown minions and the Australian people by convincing them to sacrifice 1700 of their jobs to foreign workers so she can pay award wages. I say Gina Rinehart for PM!! These politicians have not even told the idiot people by “what’ mechanism they will use to guarantee Australians get the mining jobs before the 457 visa applicants.

Oh, what a dumb-asre people, I am having such a belly laugh at the moment. LOL LOL LOL LOL

I understand there are many individuals out there who are suddenly exposed to their own mortality and then jump on a moral crusades (refugees, environment) in an attempt to justify and try to undo some of the nasty crappy things they have done in their lives, but just sticking their heads in the same in a vain attempt to vindicate their own past or present moral behaviour is not helping Australia or the Australian people fight against other countries and their people who are definitely taking sympathetic advantage of Australia and the Australian people.

There is no hope for Aussies Slippery, just let them sink in their own stupidity… I chat and talk about political issues, but really I couldn't give a rats about what happens to these stupid backward folk - just wasting your time trying to convince people their hair is on fire when they know their hair is on fire. Just sit back have a nice scotch and laugh at them behind their backs like the rest of the world is doing... LOL LOL

They think they are the "bee's knee's" because they are selling some natural resources and making more money over other countries right now, but cannot see how the big international players are laughing at them, because their country is being turned into the planets strip mine. LOL LOL

 

There are over 200 million citizens of Indonesia, and apparently you're painting them all with the terrorist brush. With that kind of attitude I'd be very surprised if you've ever been, or ever would go, anyway. So by all means, boycott away, just don't expect everyone else to be so stupid. I'm so sick of all this racist nonsense.

culldav is apparently also racist towards white Australians, that's the whole set, well done. Presumably by the way he refers to Australians as "them", he does not consider himself Australian. Am I getting a sense of deja vu here? I can never remember if it's garry, dumber or culldav who sporadically admit they're not Australian, perhaps it's all three. And in at least one case that they've never even been to Australia, yet still they drone on, amazing.

 

Ziggy,
with all due respect, I happily prefer boatpeople over true blue pissed oih oih oih trash, believe me that.
I would say put all those fat slack on the dole living bastards on the same boat, some people arrive in downunder and send them off to nowhere land. Because those people arriving on boats here on our shores with their families risk everything for a better life, they are most welcome IMHO.
However, with this cancelled concert of Lady Gaga (the name says it all), I believe it is important to make a stand against those extremists, and one way is/would be to boycott their country for a while. Once their industry suffers, it might wake up those, who until now didn't stand up and raise against.......

 

The Industry already did suffer, the concert was cancelled. What you're advocating for, is to kill the industry entirely. Their police and security simply wasn't sufficient to host the event in light of the risk of harm from terrorist threats. In no way is boycotting the entire country going to improve the situation.

 

Australian tourism to Indonesia should be banned (not boycotted) except were the tourist agrees to go there without luggage & only the clothes they are wearing & only then after a full body search(Muslims excepted). All luggage to be sent to the Australian embassy a month ahead of time & Sent back to Australia by the embassy a week after the Tourist's return to Australia has been confirmed.

 

I have been to Indonesia many times without any issue whatsoever. I am reading all this ban and boycott rubbish. Here's something to think about.......perhaps these people are guilty ! Shock horror !

Most of these people have form here in Australia. So what they go overseas and are caught in possession and now they are set up ? Give me a break.

Everyone who enters these Asian countries know the penalty for drug smuggling. It hasn't changed since the seventies. Do the crime do the time.

 

Laws are made for the people who would break them & not for those who won't. The main problem is in the degree of punishment as for example Australia does not have a death penalty. Are all the cries & complaints about impending executions in Indonesia from Australia worth the damage to Australia's reputation when putting heavy restrictions on tourism to that country can help prevent it?

 

LSD dude LSD....lmfao

 

hahaha....

 

Or here's an idea.....people should just respect the laws of another country, and realise if they break them they will be dealt with within the laws of that country. Here in Australia we are far too soft on criminals and give far too lenient sentences. We would get plenty angry if Indonesia was to interfere in our laws. We should show them the same respect we demand from others. We are becoming too much like the Yanks with our increased arrogance.

 

I agree slipperfish, I think the government really needs to make it clear that there is very, very little that they can do to intervene in the judicial proceedings of another country. They're always saying "We'll do what we can", but in reality, they can't do much at all and it gives people false expectations.

 

Wouldn't go there anyway.

 

Sounds like you'd fit in well over there, they like bigots.

 

what else to expect from our top racist? Regards....

 

No one is saying all Indonesians are terrorists. Answer me this question if you can. If multiculturalism works, then why has there always been seperate countries throughout the world for ten's of thousands of years, and there is still 257 individual countries today? If multiculturalism works; why isn't the whole of the planet one big country? Stop with the racist inference, and look beyond the square.

It really depends on "what" the term Australian means as to how you fit into that term. Australia is so mongrelised now; there are at least five distinct different groups to which all could be considered Australian. You need to start realising that Australia is not ONE Australia anymore - its been mongrelised, and so has its people.

 

I dont agree with you on this, i recon multiculturalism works and Australia is a good example.

Crikies dude do you remember what it was like 50 years ago compared to how it is today!

Well lets see 50 years ago you had fish and chips & meat pies and ofcourse the pub which closed at 6pm.

Now you can eat any dish you want whther european asian or almost any other.

You get to sit outside in our fine weather and the diversity of people and their traditions is the spice of life i say.

How boring would it be to be a hill billy living with just hill billies up in the sticks.

I love multiculturalism best thing that ever happened to us.

 

well said, fully agree....