OK. Democrat Party goes all-in: Gay marriage headed to DNC platform

Why? The blacks are already in the bag for Obama, but then again, so are the queers, what good does this actually do? That's what I'm missing, this doesn't have any real advantage to simply not doing it. This will alienate voters like my father, who is so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed near socialist you could call him Karl and he'd probably answer, but he'll stay home on that issue alone... Just not seeing the sense of this, other than possibly really, really needed the queers to donate, which is an even worse sign for the Obama campaign...

 

Add to that Muslims, Latinos, Christians, Jews, and the vast majority of Americans. Gay marriage is not popular outside a small circle of liberal elites and the whopping -2% gay population. It would only make sense if Barny Frank were running.

Just think, if these nut bags succeed, we could end with a First Couple comprised of two men.... or two women! Take it to the next level and we could have a man and his sheep! I mean, come'on, who wouldn't be proud of that platform!

 

I'm not a "liberal", I'm a Christian, but I am pro government staying the hell out of the marriage debate entirely. The Republicans with one foot in the closet and one hand on a credit card to "rent a boy" earn no points for me with their demonize gay people strategy. Be that as it may, I can't vote for Obama either because gay marriage could be worked out in the courts or with a dose of limited government.

Still voting Gary Johnson.

 

Me too..unless something breaks

 

This thread delivers!

So uh. Like I say in every single thread about this topic. Government getting the hell out of the marriage business and removing the privileges associated would solve the problem on both sides. Churches could marry or not marry whoever the pleased and homosexuals could go where ever would take them, perform whatever type of ceremony they wanted and ride of into the sunset.

Why anyone gives a crap who anyone else sleeps with is behind my ability to comprehend. Mind your own business, do what you want and quit crying about someone else doing the same. Why is this even an issue? Is there anyone here who doesn't think we'd all be better off if the state got out of the marriage business?

 

^^This.

 

I'm not saying he loses total support, but if he loses 5% he's lost the election. Look at Prop 8 in California. Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama but voted for Prop 8. If the Democrats make this a plank item, he'll lose votes. Whether or not they vote for Mitt or stay away from the polls, it will cost Obama the election.

 

I'm going to vote for Romney just as soon as the California GOP convinces me that he can swing California.

[Laughing subsides]

Yes. Mr. Johnson. I got to hear his platform on a local Libertarian weekend show.

America is missing the boat.

We need to abolish politicians and elect adults.

 

That is their current platform. Just that Biden's wool is sewn on.

 

What we're all watching here is the deconstruction of LBJ's Great Society, and the New Deal.

The people who lost the most power in the New Deal were wealthy businessmen.

The people who lost the most in the CRA/Great Society era were segregationist southerners.

Now...wealthy business people and Christian social fundamentalists, have banned together along with angry fiscal Libertarians, and those who oppose anti discrimination measures.

And they began a culture war starting about 1985.

There could be a lot of good that comes out of this that addresses foolish PC type stufff, and overly protective regulation prone to bureaucratic infficiency.

What will also likely come out of this...is it will become okay to deny jobs, housing, or just about anything to people you don't like. Also, many uptight religious folks, especially in the bible belt, will implement Christian (sharia-type) law, without the hangings and head choppings.

They want to return to a less regulated, and wilder time.

Let's just we're all gonna like what they drag us into.

 

I'm not saying that either, not total support, not by any means. My point is there are liberals like my dad that would stay home, over this issue alone, and maybe that would translate to 5%, I'm honestly thinking it would be more, because the older reliable voting crowd isn't in favor of this move. It appears to be a money grab, nothing more, there simply is no other explanation....

 

Romney should seize the oppurtunity, being a Mormon, to champion the rights of polygamists to marry. Think of it. One one side you have the democrats supporting gay marriage and, on the other side, you have the conservatives supporting polygamy. That would make for an entertaining election year. It sure beats talking about the economic doom facing the country as it drowns in its on puke filled debt.

 

It would appear this is the case until you spend any length of time in Washington, DC, travel to all their haunts and see that ideological differences are for the plebs. The politicians and their financiers are all drinking from the same bottle of scotch and going to the same parties.

Probably not because those of us who are "awake" are constantly thwarted by the monied folks on the left and right.

First, it just aint Sharia without the good old head choppings, and second, I hardly think this will happen. We are meant to be squabbling. Let one side win and there is at least half the people in the nation with nothing left to do but notice what they are doing with their cronies like Montesanto, OPEC, Siemens, Dyncorp, Northrup Grummand, Lockheed, Microsoft, Apple...well, you get the picture.

Regulations benefit large corporations over mom and pop, designed specifically to aid those businesses who backdoor supported them. They will never go away until we have corporate oligopolies.

^^Haven't a clue.

 

If you haven't already figured leftist scumbags out, this purely political move should help you along.....

It's two pronged...

They're disingenuously (100 days 'till the election) glomming onto a contentious social issue in hopes of blowing it completely out of proportion...
to deflect from Obama's pitiful, corrupt and dishonest tenure, his stewardship over the economy, and his extremely damaging collectivist screed....

And they're hoping to pin Romney down on an anti-gay marriage position, then center the balance of Obama's bid for reelection viciously attacking him as a "hateful bigot".

Bookmark it.

 

Just putting this out there, I know its crazy, but what if (and a big IF) he did it...on merely a moral ground? Like, devoid of politics, and just done because it was the right thing to do.

Crazy I know.

 

Its an election year, what morals are there? Sorry, not buying it. There is a play, looks like a bad one, but its a play...

 

You aren't a liberal all your life and then at 50 in an election year become converted to gay marriage. Either he was pro-gay marriage before the last election and lied, or he's just throwing it in now because he's trying to grab some votes.

Either that or the unicorn that lives in the back lawn of the White House galloped across a rainbow bridge built by leprechauns and talking rabbits and he suddenly saw the light.

 

10 point swing in 10 years? That's pretty significant indication that the right-wing is quickly losing this argument. No wonder they keep trying to get a Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. They know that their self-serving, twisted values will die with them within a decade.

Those who don't believe in personal freedoms like being able to choose who you marry are unlikely to vote Democratic anyways.

 

I know. I merely wondered that because it was such an 'obviously bad' play, that it might have been intentional.

Never doubt the power of Union Fuelled Mythical Creature Construction Crews. They get (*)(*)(*)(*) done on time, and for a little extra, they'll throw in a new Color for the rainbow bridge

 

And clearly Obama knows that the black and hispanic vote was purchased long ago with LBJ's "war on poverty", aka food stamps and welfare. Cause they think gay marriage is absurd.

But free-stuff is at the top of the list, and all souls can be sold for it.

 

because liberals want to impose their beliefs upon everyone

 

There is only one play there, money, from the LGBT community... nothing more... That's a really bad sign, well, for liberals anyway...

 

Smart move on there part. It will keep Romney talking about gays and not talking about important things. The only people who even care a out gays are old white conservatives so it will make the republicans seem even farther out of touch with everyone under the age of 35.

I also believe Romney doesnt have enough self control and will play right into their hands.

 

It seems to me that the only ones talking about gays are the Democrats.

 

What a choice cohort. All the deviant non-English speaking looters are on their team. Do they have even a passing acquaintance with American values?