America is a Christian nation

are forefathers were very clear, they did not allow this, but notice.. even back then some Christians were trying, just as they are today, so many year later sadly

http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html

""Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination." "

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This is in the Constituition. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.....Practice religion all you want, but throwing stones is anti-Christian. Wise up. Read more.

 

Where do you get that? Most Japanese are Buddhist/Shinto.

The founders held prayer in public buildings - having a religious monument on public grounds isn't and endorsement of religion - if religion offends you that much that you feel the need to care about crosses or 10 Commandments statues, you have problems. They're a part of our culture.

Actually most scientists do believe in a god or higher power, even the ones who aren't Christians. Atheists are a minority.

No I believe in evolution and that's got nothing to do with religion. Obviously I wasn't saying that all atheists are "geeks", I was making a sarcastic quip about the "evangelical atheists" who you find all over the internet (or their idiots in chief, Richard Dawkins, Hitchens, etc) who spend all their spare time day after day attacking religion or religious people and think that they're smarter or better than others just because they don't believe in a god. Most of them have way bigger problems than religious people ever will. They're just the atheist version of the KKK or Westboro Baptist Church.

I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

So then you put republicans above God

 

the ten commandments has no more business on a court room wall then Sharia law, or a portrait of the spaghetti monster for that mater, if a secular justice system offends you that much....


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Yet we always go back to the Constitution that has no Seperations Powers within it! Government shall pass no laws.... There is no real basis within the Constitution itself that disallows local towns/counties to say spend money on a Nativity Scene within public property. Yet some have read such powers but I do think that the majority of people are wakening up to the destruction of our governence by a small minority of people.

 

Well, America sure won't be a Christian nation for long. We can already see that as the fundamentalists get more isolated they get louder and more aggressive

 

Why do you leave out the rest of that statement ?

 

Not at all I am a conservative independent and plan on voting constitution party Virgil Goode for president

 

I'm afraid you did exactly that when you said

Other posters, think , akphidelt2007 + Colonel are quite correct in pointing out yr paranoia + foolishness.

I think Jesus was talking abt - the Pharisees /Talmudists


Let's not ignore the fact that "Millions of so-called "Christians " who claimed to be his followers , behaved atrociously like barbarians , amongst themselves and towards non-Christians - so-called heatherns. i.e. North + Sth Americas + Africa etc.


Remove your blinkers , stand back and try to observe the big picture.



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America is a Christian nation?

Only demographically. Legally we are secular. As concerns behavior, make your own joke.

 

Fundamentalists aren't "Christians", they're a cult.

 

America is a nation that consists of citizens, the majority of which say they are Christian.

Would you want things to change if the majority was say- Jewish?

I like a nice secular government. I could care less about nativity scenes and such, and yes, I find the atheists who get upset about each and every thing 'religious' as irritating as the Christians who insist that everything must be Christian.

Sort of a "Don't sweat the small stuff" thing- a nativity scene on a public space is really fine with me, as long as the space is available for other groups to use too. Permanent religious monuments should not be erected now- but ones that have been there for over say 20 years- just let them be.

 

That depends on your understanding of what/who is "christian " and a
"Cult" -


Hypocrit .

Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged Mathew 7:1



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I'd disagree with this most strongly; firstly your assertion assumes that no liberal is, or can be, a Christian as though Christianity is solely the preserve of conservatives. This is, frankly, an absurdity.
Secondly nobody has issues with true Christians or anyone, for that matter, who goes about their religious business modestly, quietly, with dignity and without recourse to evangelising, yelling, banging on people's doors on Sunday mornings, or shoving leaflets at them in the street. Frankly those sorts of 'christians' are no better than insurance salesmen, and no less annoying. Keep your faith in the church or your home where it belongs. It is emphatically not a political tool, and to use it as such goes against everything the bible teaches about morality, given that politics as a profession is about as immoral as you can get.

 

'Actually most scientists do believe in a god or higher power'. I take it you have evidence to support this?

 

fact is, most people will pretend to believe even if they don't for fear of being rejected by some, be it a boss, lover, family, friends, political reasons, whatever...

even scientists will pretend to believe for fear of losing grants, ect...

so even if we could get a count, we would not know, sure the same is true in other countries with the majority religions there

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If you (or anyone else) could/would convince the "Fundamentalists" of what you say above... I'd buy the notion that you are correct.

Fact is, you can call them a "cult" all you wish... but they will claim that YOUR belief is the one in-error.

In any case... I want RELIGION TO REMAIN SEPARATE FORM GOVT. Officially interlacing the two would only lead to strife, chaos and much oppression.

 

And Christ mythers, like you.

 

Fundamentalists' beliefs have nothing to do with Christianity as a whole - they're a fringe movement that are in a class all their own and have nothing to do with mainstream Christianity.

 

Fundamentalism is a really big cult, composed of most Southern Baptist, Pentacostals, and more than a few non denominational churches as well. In certain regards you could throw in a goodly chunk of the prosperity theologians as well. What marks a Fundamentalist group and makes it different from most of the Protestant churches is that they insist on a strict literal interpretation of scripture even where such is clearly contraindicated.

 

That's a bunch of crap! If you investigate deeply, there's not a great deal of difference between S. Baptists and say Catholics regarding eternal life beliefs and rules of living.

 

More crap when you call Fundamentalists cults! You can disagree, but putting them in a category of being a cult is just plain wrong.

 

You're spreading silly/distorted ideas. You really need to stop doing that.

 

Fundamentalists are more like the Protestant version of Traditionalist Catholics - ex. Traditionalists are more concerned with whether or not the mass is Latin than promoting Christian values. And fundamentalists are more concerned with whether the earth is really 6,000 years old or whether or not people should be baptist by immersion vs. sprinkling, than promoting Christian principles. They act very much like a cult, or at least like Pharisees - more concerned with the letter of the law than the spirit of the law.