The Myth of Diversity

you posted the inverse stats...if 5 violent crimes were committed in NYC last year and all 5 perps were black then saying 100% of all violent crime is committed by blacks is entirely accurate...but it doesn't mean that 100% of all black people commit violent crimes.

So I'm asking you, of the nearly 40 Million Black Americans, what percentage of them commit violent crimes?

 

This sentence in your post points to hatred and anger.

Racism and ignorance are terrible. But they are nothing compared to hatred.

I also deny that the Right is racist and ignorant.

I am an Independent, with no dog in the race. But I can spot the hyena posing as a Liberal dog.

 

Racism IS hatred! At keast hatred can be because of a legitimate reason, racism is without reason.

 

If I was to point out that more severe dog attacks come from Dobermans or from Pit Bulls than from Labs or French Poodles, would you accuse me of being breedist?

Then don't accuse someone who says that one race has an X% higher percentage of crime in their ranks than another race is racist.

If you do, that would make you either ignorant or insincere(that is, a liar).

Do you really want to have the choice of being either ignorant or a liar?

 

"The Right" isn't racist and ignorant.

For all I know a majority don't think about race at all.

But the loudest of the Right either are racist and ignorant and hateful

Or they are great actors.

 

Not at all...but if you then concluded that all pit bulls should be put down regardless of attacks or put into a pen separate from other dogs entirely because a percentage of them attack other dogs or steal their food then I'd call you an idiot.

 

Hatred NEVER has a reason. You don't understand hatred.

But I wonder if you understand racism. To me, hating blacks because they're black is obviously hatred and it's also racism because the hatred is based on race.

To say that white people tend to have a higher percentage of alcoholics or white-collar criminals, it isn't racism; it isn't hatred; it's fact. OR, if you prefer to call it racism, it certainly isn't a hateful or evil kind of racism, it's facts/statistics categorized by race. If that's racism, then some forms of racism are okay. What is racism to you?

Stop hating yourself. Then you'll cease seeing other people hating, when they really aren't.

And you'll stop tending to hate others.

It all starts- and I mean it ALL starts with how you feel about YOU.

 

Unless we are expected to actually believe that the Ku Klux Klan, George Wallace, Strom Thurmond, Sheriff "Bull" Connor, Lester Maddox and David Duke are all patchouli soaked, tie dyed, Birkenstock wearing, Kumbaya singing Liberals, I think it's a safe assumption to make that racism, segregationists and anti-diversity believing people are found in the Conservative camp of American politics.

 

And if you think that all white people who realize certain facts about the black race conclude that all blacks be put down regardless of such and such, or be put into a pen separate, then you'd have to call YOURSELF an idiot.

 

I have a theory that people who harp and harp on racism, and especially those who point fingers and call others racist (especially when they're wrong about it) are almost certainly the racists themselves.

Have you ever tried to explain why a self-righteous liberal will scream because someone criticizes Obama or Holder, etc. and call it racism? But that same self-righteous liberal will immediately call Herman Cain, or Justice Clarence Thomas or other Conservative black who is perceived as threat- call them TERRIBLE names and sound EVERY BIT as racist as the Obama-criticizer.

This last bit of evidence points to the truth of the theory that liberals are actually more racist than Conservatives, but are dishonest about it, hide it and project their hatred(caused by fear) of those unlike themselves, onto Conservatives for any number of unhealthy reasons including the attempt to prove themselves morally superior because they realize (*)(*)(*)(*) well that they are exactly NOT morally superior.

 

You're equating black people to agressive dog breeds?

WOW!

That woud seem to prove my point here.

 

I don't know. You tell me if you can.

I can give you the REAL numbers of REAL crimes broken down into percentages and verified by the FBI and DOJ. You can extrapolate them yourself if you like.
I'm not going to play hide and seek and shuffle numbers to camouflage reality.

 

If I were Conservative, I'd run away from the fellows I listed in my post too.

 

What on earth are you talking about? I'm perfectly fine with myself thanks, and I don't walk around sterotyping entire demographics over a bunch of statists and personal experiences... Which is more than I can say for many on this thread and they are ALL GOPers... So statistically and from my personal experience.... you see where I'm going I'm sure.

 

when have I even suggested I believe that? I do not think all white people believe that...hell I don't even think a solid minority of white people believe that...I'm as wary of certain styles of dress and demeanor as the next guy, nothing wrong with that...but I don't go on rants assuming that everyone resembling a criminal IS a criminal.

 

Let's make it simple...I'll ask for one number...the entire number of violent crimes committed in the USA regardless of race. Can you provide that?

 

You're a step ahead of most other forum liberals John.

It's still a little too encompassing I think, to say the 'loudest' of the Right. I think Gingrich, maybe Trump(if he counts), Hannity, Boehner, Romney, Ryan, maybe a couple religious dudes are the loudest of the Right, and racist certainly is not what they are.

But I take your point. There are many so-called STRONG and vocal Rightists who are probably quite racist.

I'm not sure they amount to the number of racists on the Left though.
You've got to understand that even though you may not dig religion, a lot of folks on the Right do, and really believing it (be they deluded or not), a SERIOUS part of their belief is to love mankind no matter the color. Of course some people USE religion to hate blacks, probably, but that's not the tendency.

Leftists on the other hand, who I believe tend to put a LOT less credence in a relevant God, in a sense have no valid reason at ALL to not be racist, for if you don't believe that God instilled in man a knowledge that racism is wrong, it would be impossible for you to convince me that there is any OTHER force in the universe that would have any interest in instilling that loving feeling.

Therefore I conclude that if one MUST, MUST search for racists, they should START on the Left, where they will probably find MANY more folks who really care about themselves number one, and care about others only as a tit-for-tat Golden Rule reason.

 

No. Let me know when you find it and we can proceed.

 

Good. I may have gotten my good sense confused (*^*%& and you were not saying what I thought. My sincere apology, John.

 

Of course it would, since you can see racism anywhere you want to in order to win a debate, even when the racism isn't there.
That is really ignorant if you REALLY think that I'm equating blacks with dogs in a negative way.

People aren't stupid enough to buy the sentiment of this post of yours. I'm really surprised that you would think they are. Or maybe I'm not surprised.

 

I am astonished if you seriously think that anyone here buys what you are trying to imply in this post.

Actually, YOU are the one to whom the thought occurred that blacks might be compared to dogs, aren't you?

 

understood. apology accepted.

 

whatever, this is 2011: 1,246,248 violent crimes. (all races, not just blacks but I'll put it all on blacks to prove a point)

According to the site this is murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.

so there are 38 - 40 million blacks in the USA.

I'll use the lower number to increase the percentage to prove a point.

So there are ~3.2796+/-% of all black people who are violent criminals if you blame them for ALL violent crime in the USA.

3.27% (and that's higher than reality)

Hardly the epidemic you espouse.

And remember, that's using the number for ALL violent crime.

Source: http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...&utm_source=fbi-in-the-news&utm_content=32573

if you can find a better source please provide it.

 

Ok. What percentage of those crimes were commited by blacks and what is the percentage of blacks in the population?

Then tell me what the percentages work out to per capita.

 

are you serious? If we attribute ALL 1,246,248 to only black Americans then only 3.27% of black America are violent criminals or 1,246,248 black people...or 0.3% of the entire US population.

Is my math wrong?