The Myth of Diversity

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    Well they have female bosses and work with very openly gay men - this being the NL, gay men don't have to fear others views, they are gay, we are straight, we all get along.
     
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    Well I'm British and we joke about "the troubles"; I'm a Black and Tan and he's IRA - get over it!

    Hold onto these things and they'll tear you apart. It's done and dusted, we did not take part and we're good friends. I think it's remarkable that he gets away with saying it, but that's the charm of the Irish.
     
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    THE RACE WAR OF BLACK AGAINST WHITE


    Paul Sheehan


    From the Sydney Morning Herald, May 20, 1995


    The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not over. It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims. It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War. It determined the result of last year's congressional election.

    Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which remains between the lines and unreported. In fact, to even suggest that the war exists is to be discredited. So let's start suggesting, immediately.

    No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.

    And the problem is getting worse, not better. In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster then the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.

    Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been reported in America:

    According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.


    Most victims of race crime – about 90 per cent – are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims," published in 1993.


    Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.


    Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent crimes of whites.


    According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.
    These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning the modern civil rights movement.

    Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparison 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war.

    When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).

    When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have commited at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II.

    All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic* double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard.




    * Note by Simon Sheppard: Paul Sheehan, like George Orwell in Nineteen Eighty-Four, writes skillfully and accurately but gets the gender wrong. Maintaining a double-standard (ambivalence, Malign Encouragement) and controlling information are female strategies. As Sheehan intimates ("not coincidentally"), many of the crimes he details are the product of alien influence. It was a Jew who invented the term genocide:



    ‘In order to weaken the spiritual resistance of the national group, the occupant attempts to create an atmosphere of moral debasement within this group. According to this plan, the mental energy of the group should be concentrated upon base instincts and should be diverted from moral and national thinking. It is important for the realization of such a plan that the desire for cheap individual pleasure be substituted for the desire for collective feelings and ideals based upon a higher morality.’
    Part of Lemkin's original 1944 definition of genocide, from Axis Rule in Occupied Europe: Laws of Occupation, Analysis of Government, Proposals for Redress pp.89-90. Or the following, in Neal Gabler, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood (pp. 6-7, quoting Isaiah Berlin):



    ‘The Hollywood Jews would cope through "a sustained attempt to live a fiction, and to cast its spell over the minds of others." What is amazing is the extent to which they succeeded in promulgating this fiction throughout the world. By making a "shadow" America, one which idealized every old glorifying bromide about the country, the Hollywood Jews created a powerful cluster of images and ideas -- so powerful that, in a sense, they colonized the American imagination. No one could think about this country without thinking about the movies. As a result, the paradox -- that the movies were quintessentially American while the men who made them were not -- doubled back on itself. Ultimately, American values came to be defined largely by the movies the Jews made. Ultimately, by creating their idealized America on the screen, the Jews reinvented the country in the image of their fiction.’




    Who Took the Slaves to America?
    Slave Ship Owner(s)
    Abigail Aaron Lopez, Moses Levy, Jacob Franks
    Crown Isaac Levy, Nathan Simpson
    Nassau Moses Levy
    Four Sisters Moses Levy
    Anne & Eliza Justus Bosch, John Abrams
    Prudent Betty Henry Cruger, Jacob Pheonix
    Hester Mordecai & David Gomez
    Elizabeth Mordecai & David Gomez
    Antigua Nathan Marston, Abram Lyell
    Betsy Wm. De Woolf
    Polly James De Woolf
    White Horse Jan de Sweevts
    Expedition John & Jacob Roosevelt
    Charlotte Moses & Sam Levy, Jacob Franks
    Caracoa Moses & Sam Levy
     
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    That's not why we think they are better. They are better because they are more educated, less likely to commit crime, less likely to be in gangs, less likely to make a neighborhood worse in terms of property values and crime, etc. The same is true with Asians. Blacks and Hispanics are problematic groups in a number of ways, and it's not racist and/or wrong to acknowledge those ways.

    Your position may give you a warm fuzzy feeling inside, but it's not reality. You should at least stop pretending that it is.
     
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    Absolutely, its still our country. Base it upon skills this country needs at the given time. That could indeed be unskilled and uneducated at times, but strictly limited to only fill our needs. We simply cannot continue on the current path.
     
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    Why is this? When did these people get equality in your country?
     
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    Dodge. We're talking about proven facts and hard, cold statistics. Attempting to minimalize by condensing it to "skin color" is dishonest and fraudulent...and you know it.
    Debunk the facts. Stop name calling.



    No sensible person believes that and no one here has said anything like that. You're trying to muddy up the water with false claims and strawmen.



    Well, according to the wiki definition...lmao...it proves no one here is a racist. No one here has said said anything like that.
    We are acknowledging that there are differences between the races.In fact your wiki "source" LMAO even says Racism involves the belief in racial differences.. I DO agree with that. The rest is biased and emotional propaganda. Wiki even says "In politics, racism is commonly located on the far right...."
    LMFAO..completely biased and slanted...but considering who makes up these "definitions" not a bit surprising.



    So you have absolutely no experience with negroes..ok..got it...
     
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    I already said it's none of my business and I couldn't care less what you do in your country. I was pointing out that it's wrong to laugh about suicide bombers.

    but...you keep wandering off topic, don't you?

    Good for you!...no one alive in america took part in slavery and no negro alive was a slave.."It's done and dusted" they should get over it...right?

    ....but they don't..they've been using that excuse for 150 years to excuse their disproportionate criminality and inability to live in civilized society. Keeping the races in turmoil and using the past as an excuse for their failures is a tool and a business plan for negroes. Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton, etc....
     
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    Sorry, I'm not convinced by that lazy cop-out. People have the same opportunity to succeed now, and have for some time. In fact, being a certain type of minority actually makes you more likely to succeed with less effort. Whites and Asians are punished for being too successful, thanks to the kind of thinking you employ.

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    Negroes gained their freedom at the expense of around 600,000 white lives in the war of northern aggression.
    See..white people didn't INVENT slavery, but white people (*)(*)(*)(*)ed sure ABOLISHED it in this country..negroes should be THANKING us....
     
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    No one is calling for total conformity all we want is for foreigners to come here LEGALLY and want to become Americans or come here and get a legal work-visa. Our illegal alien problem has two causes IMO....Lax Southern border enforcement and gross inefficiency in our immigration policies that makes it almost impossible for folks to apply and get the legal documents they need to be here legally.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ing-ballots-accomodate-criminal-behavior.html

    Spanish voting ballots should be banned. Voting ballots should be in English only. Proponents of Spanish ballots claim that to not have them is discrimination against Hispanics. That's absurd. American citizen Hispanics speak, read, and write English perfectly well. They have no need of a voting ballot in anything other than English. The only ones who have a need for a ballot written in Spanish are aliens who are not eligible to vote. I've known hundreds of Hispanics in the USA. Most don't even speak Spanish.

    The US Justice Dept. is requiring election workers to present ballots in Spanish. The current US Justice Dept is Obama's justice department, and he is looking toward illegal aliens and all the aliens he issues work visas to, to vote for him (all of them ILLEGALLY). Hence, the hypocrisy of Obama to talk about creating jobs, when he is actively facilitating the presence of the very people who are taking jobs away from unemployed Americans. If Obama creates any jobs, it is for for these aliens, whom he relies on to vote for him, not the American unemployed.
     
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    We do ask "why?" What you can't accept is that our answers are different from yours. You have to see them as perpetual victims who are never responsible for their choices and actions. We see it differently.

    Certainly some people believe that there could be a genetic predisposition towards violence, and that blacks are more likely to possess it. Others believe their culture, which glorifies violence and a lawless lifestyle, is more of a culprit. Personally, I believe their culture is more to blame than anything else. Thanks to people like you, they have become convinced that they are victims and that anything they do is not their fault. Their family unit has been destroyed by the generational welfare system that leftists like you promote as a normal and healthy way of life. Combine that with their less-than-stellar graduation and education credentials, and the increasing Hispanic population that is out-competing them for jobs, and it isn't hard to see why blacks are still at the bottom of the social ladder.

    What better way to highlight the diversity issue than to compare and contrast white and black? That's about as opposite as you can get on the diversity scale.
     
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    Pretty weak standards in my opinion.
    I say speak english or get out. This is our country..we built it. Either assimilate or leave.

    As far as illegals here...They are the lowest cowards, unpatriotic traitors to their own country and opportunists.

    If they were patriots and honorable they'd stay in their own country and work to build it and improve it for themselves and future generations....but..there's more free stuff here..
     
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    Blacks themselves preferred the term "negroes" up until the 1970's. Now, suddenly, it's a horrible, horrible word?
     
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    James Farmer, former leader of CORE and organizer of the Freedom Rides preferred "Colored People" because he said that blacks were not "black" but beautiful shades of color.
     
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    3 words...Border, Language & Culture. Without those there is no country. Even Mexico realizes this with their heavily patrolled Southern border and draconian punishment for illegals.
     
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    If there are high standards to get into this country, education and necessary skills, it shouldn't matter where they come from as they will likely prosper, and pose no threat to this country, rather they are more likely to assimilate. Instead we have no standards except to increase 'diversity' for the hell of it. That's where the problem is. People come here for opportunity, if they don't find it they become discontent and start causing problems.
     
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    How about Israeli's? Like the middle eastern ones, with a ME culture and different religion?
     
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    Israel is a small nation with a small population........very few of them are trying to immigrate over here....but irregardless.........we have a Judao/Christian Heritage in America. Jews are very different from muslims.
     
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    Let us be clear here.......where are these immigrants with a good education and needed skills most likely to come from?

    Certainly not from Mexico or any other third world nation....muslims education for the most part consists of memorizing the koran. Though many of them are highly intelligent...........what they bring to America is a religious fanaticism coupled with much sympathy for the jihadists....a few exceptions but not many.

    Our immigration policy needs to be changed back to the way it was prior to l965------favoring people like ourselves(Europeans) and only make exceptions in rare cases
     
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    I'm curious to all the mono-cultural advocates...

    Let's assume you can exile or deport rather any and all non-American cultures from the USA...what would you do with the Black Americans who undoubtedly have as much right to be here as any White American?
     
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    How come you keep avoiding your so very diverse country and all your personal experience with diversity?

    I'll help you out, I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about. I lived in North Long Beach. I walked north six blocks I was in Compton. Along the way things change by the block. First block is apartments, very diverse actually, Asians, Hispanics, Blacks, Middle Easterners, all working/middle class folks. Very few problems there, the next block is a large grocery store and a few other shops, this was sort of the line. The next block was lower class individual housing, mostly Hispanic. The next block was a large park, this park was claimed by a black street gang, the Crips. These characters have no problem introducing you to whole new brand of tolerance and diversity. The first time I ever walked towards them, as we needed to pass on the sidewalk I figured I'd just head to one side and we could share the space. Not so, as it turns out. I was rudely shouldered off the sidewalk, then received a verbal tirade explaining who they were and what would happen to me if I ever disrespected them again. As I said, a whole new level of tolerance I'd never encountered before: ZERO. This is the sort of diversity you think I should see as a boon to society? Guess what, we haven't even it made it the full six blocks yet, it only gets worse from there... By the grace of God two blocks to the west runs into the LA River, which blocks off that side from the fabulous diversity you think I need so much in my life. Again, thankfully the nearest bridge is about a mile away, which would run visitors through the lovely diversity of the Crips and Bloods before they could encroach on my neighborhood. To the east its mostly shopping areas which then starkly ends in lower income Hispanic gang territory, more of that fun and lovely diversity you keep harping on about. The south was the only safe direction, for four blocks anyway then it gets rough again. This is but one example of only one city I've lived in, and I've lived in many large US cities, and guess what, I keep running into this wonder diversity you speak of. Certainly you'll have plenty of personal experiences to show me the error of my ways or at least insights as to how I can improve my outlook...
     
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    At this point the largest pools would most likely be from Europe, East Asia and South Asia.
     
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    See, that's not what NY Jews say, they can remember the time, only a couple of decades ago, when muslim neighbours would look after their jewish kids. I used to work with an old Israeli chap, he was no different to the muslims I work with... no different at all.

    Except in the mind of the xenophobe.
     

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