Obama’s college classmate: ‘the obama scandal is at columbia’

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  1. SFJEFF

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    Okay- why not tell us the truth?

    Give us some verifiable facts

    I have yet to see a Birther do any such thing since Birthers stock in trade are lies, half truths, gossip, innuendo and speculation.

    But go ahead and show us some verifiable facts that you imagine we are hiding from.

    Birthers lol.
     
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    That Pamphlets said he was born in Kenya. What gave the writer the idea he was from Kenya? I bet he entered school as a foreign exchange student. Prove me wrong.
     
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    here is a typically Birther 'fact'- mixing one fact with pure speculation

    The fact is that a promotional pamphlet that had Obama listed as one of 80 odd aspiring authors lists Barack Obama's place of Birth as Kenya.

    "I bet he entered school as a foreign exchange student"

    This is speculation.

    Now I can't 'prove' your baseless speculation is wrong, anymore than I can prove that Romney didn't enter school as a foreign exchange student.

    What I can show however is that the facts show that Obama's birth place was being identified as Hawaii when he was still in school- and afterwards

    We know of course that his birth was announced in two Hawaiian newspapers in 1961. After that there is a lull until 1990- when young Barack Obama was interviewed by most of the major newspapers because he was the first African American selected to be the head of the Harvard Law Review- and while he was in Harvard- every major newspaper had an article discussing that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Let me put it in perspective for you:
    New York Times, February 6, 1990 - daily circution- 1,586,757- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Tribune, February 7, 1990- daily circulation 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii
    Washington Post, February 8, 1990- daily circulation 507.615- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Daily Herald, May 3, 1990-- daily circulation 15,190- Obama born in Hawaii
    Columbia Today, Fall 1990- Obama born in Hawaii


    (all published when Obama was still at Harvard)

    Obscure promotional brochure paragraph 1991- Obama born in Kenya

    Chicago Magazine, January 1993- circulation 165,000- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Tribune, Feb 10, 1993- 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii
    Los Angeles Times, August 7, 1995- daily circulation 605,243 - Obama born in Hawaii
    "Dreams from My Father" 1995- millions of copies sold - Obama born in Hawaii
    Barack Obama State Senate Webpage, October 1, 1999 - Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Daily Herald, January 22, 2003- 15,190 - Obama born in Hawaii
    Time Magazine, June 24, 2004- circulation 3,276.882 - Obama born in Hawaii


    Now tell me- why on earth would a student who graduated from an American High School choose to declare himself a foreign exchange student?

    Can you show even a single advantage such a foreign exchange student would have?
     
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    and, true to form, Jeff pointed out that birther's "stock in trade are lies, half truths, gossip, innuendo and speculation."

    And then he challenged you all to "show us some verifiable facts that you imagine we are hiding from".

    and how do you respond? You give us lies, half truths, gossip, innuendo, and speculation. :lol:

    is this really Jeff under an alternate troll screen name and are you using slyhunter simply as a means of making yourself look smarter? Come on.... fess up.
     
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    How about that Democrat Congress woman who claimed to be an Indian. There is president.
     
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    I think you mean "precedent"...but tell me ...which woman democrat who is or was a member of congress ever falsely claimed to be an Indian?

    and you failed to answer the question posed in any case... what is the advantage to claiming you are a foreign exchange student?
     
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    well, we know obama didn't give it to the writer.


    I bet romney entered school as a martian.
    the onus is on you to prove your claim.
     
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    ElizabethWarren.
    Thought I wouldn't be able to goggle the name didn't you.
     
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    Martian's don't get preferential treatment, Kenyans do.
     
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    By the way... when you "goggle" something, do you wear goggles?


    Then please tell us what district from what state she is now or ever did represent in the Congress of the United States. Your claim was that she was a democratic congresswoman... you should be able to easily "goggle" that as well. Don't forget your goggles when you do! :lol:

    I won't hold my breath.
     
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    what preferential treatment do you think Kenyans get?

    google that while you're at it.

    :lol:
     
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    what happened sly? lose your goggles? :lol:
     
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    and you have exactly zero evidence for your claim he claimed foreign status on his application.
     
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    My mistake I should've said failed Congressman. Big (*)(*)(*)(*)ing deal.

    and Democratic Party candidate in the 2012 United States Senate election in Massachusetts.
     
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    and which school is sly "goggles" hunter saying that Obama got preferential treatment by pretending to be a Kenyan? Harvard? Where there were tons of articles written about him - and by Harvard itself - that proclaimed he was from Hawaii?

    Sly needs to take off the goggles and go get some therapy. I personally recommend Don Julio Anejo... over ice, with just a twist.
     
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    how can anyone be a failed anything when they have never been that thing yet? You called her a democratic congresswoman... she's never been in congress. Didn't you figure that out when you "goggled" her?
     
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    And you have zero evidence that he didn't. But we do have a Pamphlet that says he's from Kenya.

    BTW foreign students get all kinds of special considerations.
     
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    like what? what special considerations does Harvard or Columbia give to Kenyan students that it doesn't give to black students from Hawaii?

    I realize it make take you a while to find the answer to that question... even wearing your goggles... because you're undoubtedly going to have to wipe your excess fecal material off of it because the answer will have, as always, been pulled straight out of your a$$.
     
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    come on sly...break out the goggles and answer the questions that have been posed to you. Or admit that you don't have a fu@king clue what you're talking about.
     
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    http://www.worldwide.harvard.edu/iws/additional_resources/index.jsp

    They also have quota's for foreign student enrollment that bypasses normal enrollment ensureing they get seats in class while others have to wait in long lines.
     
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    Did she only claim to be Indian in an obscure promotional brochure while telling millions of readers that she was Hawaiian?

    I mean after all- everyone at Harvard knew Obama was from Hawaii because every major newspaper in the Country reported it

    New York Times, February 6, 1990 - daily circution- 1,586,757- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Tribune, February 7, 1990- daily circulation 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii
    Washington Post, February 8, 1990- daily circulation 507.615- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Daily Herald, May 3, 1990-- daily circulation 15,190- Obama born in Hawaii

    Columbia Today, Fall 1990- Obama born in Hawaii

    (all published when Obama was still at Harvard)

    Obscure promotional brochure paragraph 1991- Obama born in Kenya

    Chicago Magazine, January 1993- circulation 165,000- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Tribune, Feb 10, 1993- 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii
    Los Angeles Times, August 7, 1995- daily circulation 605,243 - Obama born in Hawaii
    "Dreams from My Father" 1995- millions of copies sold - Obama born in Hawaii
    Barack Obama State Senate Webpage, October 1, 1999 - Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Daily Herald, January 22, 2003- 15,190 - Obama born in Hawaii
    Time Magazine, June 24, 2004- circulation 3,276.882 - Obama born in Hawaii

    Now tell me- why on earth would a student who graduated from an American High School choose to declare himself a foreign exchange student?

    Can you show even a single advantage such a foreign exchange student would have?
     
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    Do you have all that stored away so you can copy and paste it or do you type it all out again every time you say it?
     
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    Okay- where in that list of the many things that Harvard does to try to help foreign students adjust to life in the U.S. and at Harvard is there some benefit that any U.S. student would get?

    I mean one that would make a student think of committing fraud and possibly losing their degree years after the fact?

    Really- what benefit are you seeing that I am missing?

    Source? Citation? Matter of fact their website says just the opposite

    Are there quotas for international applicants?

    There are no quotas or limits for international students. All students are considered in the same pool for all places in the incoming class, regardless of citizenship or the school they attend. A student's chances for admission and financial aid are not affected by citizenship or by the location of the school that the student attends.

    http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/apply/international/faq.html

    So once again- what supposed benefit is there for an American to be falsely claiming to be a foreign exchange student? I mean it must be something really good to risk a very expensive degree for.
     
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    The same stupid claim about the promotional brochure comes up rather frequently- I have typed it up several times- now I have it saved so I can point out everytime how idiotic the claim that the brochure means something when every real publication said he was born in Hawaii.

    He didn't of course. This was an obscure pamphlet that probably no more than a few thousand people ever saw- it was for the book trade- Obama's 'bio' was one of over 80 aspiring authors.

    Meanwhile- in every major publication that mentioned his place of birth- from his birth on, his place of birth was noted as HAWAII

    We know of course that his birth was announced in two Hawaiian newspapers in 1961. After that there is a lull until 1990- when young Barack Obama was interviewed by most of the major newspapers because he was the first African American selected to be the head of the Harvard Law Review

    Let me put it in perspective for you:
    New York Times, February 6, 1990 - daily circution- 1,586,757- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Tribune, February 7, 1990- daily circulation 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii
    Washington Post, February 8, 1990- daily circulation 507.615- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Daily Herald, May 3, 1990-- daily circulation 15,190- Obama born in Hawaii
    Columbia Today, Fall 1990- Obama born in Hawaii
    Obscure promotional brochure paragraph- Obama born in Kenya
    Chicago Magazine, January 1993- circulation 165,000- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Tribune, Feb 10, 1993- 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii
    Los Angeles Times, August 7, 1995- daily circulation 605,243 - Obama born in Hawaii
    "Dreams from My Father" 1995- millions of copies sold - Obama born in Hawaii
    Barack Obama State Senate Webpage, October 1, 1999 - Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Daily Herald, January 22, 2003- 15,190 - Obama born in Hawaii
    Time Magazine, June 24, 2004- circulation 3,276.882 - Obama born in Hawaii


    So explain to me- how exactly did Obama go around 'allowing people to believe that he was born in Kenya" when every actual publication from before the brochure and after the brochure said he was born in Hawaii- including his 1995 book and his 1999 webpage?

    I mean if Obama was trying to fool anyone about him being born in Kenya- he was doing an abysmally poor job of it since millions of people had read about him being born in Hawaii.

    Explain that one to me- this whole "Obama was telling everyone he was born in Kenya" fiction – how does that jive with the real story?
     
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    but you can't actually find any of them.

    I happen to have an advantage of you- I knew foreign exchange students during that period. They had to fight hard to get to the U.S., go through everything we had to get into college and more, and didn't get a (*)(*)(*)(*) benefit for it. Matter of fact- now that I think of this- they had to show the college their visa- and because the visa was a student visa, they could only work on campus- couldn't work anywhere else.

    So do you think Obama had a Kenyan passport with a U.S. visa? Seriously? Because that is what he would have needed to go to college here as a foriegn exchange student.
     
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