Was Jesus God?

Mutually exclusive aspects. H2O can be either liquid, solid, or gas. It cannot be all three at the same time.

 

If you drop an Ice cube on a heated burner, you will see H20 being all 3 at the same time.

 

too cool


and my crack up is not even jesus could enable anyone to walk on water


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Healed the sick, cured the blind, raised himself from the dead.......sure nothing Godly about those things.

Oh and a message of salvation and forgiveness is powerful.

 

Jesus gave us hope and forgiveness of our sins. But you are right he is greedy, he wants all of us to choose him and reach the promised land.

 

many doctors and nostradamus assisted more than jesus did

many wear glasses

i wake up each morning, just like you too.

he didnt wake up this morning, did he?

the walkin on water part? and floating in and out of the clouds stuff. yea! that's godlike.

but now that blue dude, the hairy christna, he supposedly serviced 16000-plus wives......................... THAT IS a GOD!!!!!

Could we do that 'oh, mighty salamee' thing?

yea yea, that too!

 

see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_point

Another example to show to you how easy the expression "triune" is: Take a look up and down. Now left and right - step forward - now backward: Welcome in the triune world. Three directions but one space only.

Nevertheless there's indeed a deep secret in the existance or notexistance of god - and if you are not able to believe in god then do it just simple this way. No one is forced to accept what he's not able to understand. But take care that you are really only not understanding and you are not following a wrong way because of political propaganda or because it is just simple easy to follow a wrong way. Sometimes the ways are rough, sometimes there are more problems than solutions. You have to trust in god if you like to find him. To trust in god with hope is more easy than to trust in god without hope. Jesus gave us hope.

http://youtu.be/K0sFwjkheKw

 

In different environs they can. Jesus prayed to the Father. You can put ice in a glass of liquid water. Likewise, constantly there is water vapor in the air we breathe. This is just an analogy, but it's a pretty darn good one to demonstrate the simplicity that is the Trinity. The term for the relationship of the Persons of the One Triune Godhead is "Consubstantial."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consubstantiality

 

Jesus just can't be a God. And the God will never be known as Jesus. This is a fact. Jesus is a human, even not an idol; and obviously not the son of the God. There's no conversation to argue about this point - Jesus is not the God.

 

you must be an atheist because them terms and defining properties are of science, not jesus.

hey........................... the Con is substantial when idiots claim a man is the 'one true god' of 3 pink elephants

when the trinity of SCIENCE is mass (elements), energy (light) and time, then you can understand the 1 by its 3 parts as is actually comprehended in science.

It comes from the similar material that you learned of vapor, liquid, ice; science.



it's OK fel, you fall quite frequently

 

If jesus isn't God then either God doesn't give a tinker's (*)(*)(*)(*) about Justice or we all go to hell.

 

Actually the idea that an inanimate substance could be even marginally analogous to any relationship among divine entities is preposterous to the point of insolence.

If Jesus is God, He was never tempted, and His "suffering" was the most compelling theatrical performance of all time, but nothing more.

You're not making any sense.

 

"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."

That's not really a denial.... If only God is good, and Jesus is good, thus Jesus is God. Right? He's not saying, "Don't call me good", is he?

"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Again, not a denial. Jesus is quoting Psalms 22:

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me, from the words of my groaning? 2 O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer; and by night, but find no rest. 3 Yet you are holy, enthroned on the praises of Israel. 4 In you our ancestors trusted; they trusted, and you delivered them. 5 To you they cried, and were saved; in you they trusted, and were not put to shame. 6 But I am a worm, and not human; scorned by others, and despised by the people. 7 All who see me mock at me; they make mouths at me, they shake their heads; 8 "Commit your cause to the Lord; let him deliver— let him rescue the one in whom he delights!" 9 Yet it was you who took me from the womb; you kept me safe on my mother's breast. 10 On you I was cast from my birth, and since my mother bore me you have been my God. 11 Do not be far from me, for trouble is near and there is no one to help. 12 Many bulls encircle me, strong bulls of Bashan surround me; 13 they open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast; 15 my mouth is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs are all around me; a company of evildoers encircles me. My hands and feet have shriveled; 17 I can count all my bones. They stare and gloat over me; 18 they divide my clothes among themselves, and for my clothing they cast lots. 19 But you, O Lord, do not be far away! O my help, come quickly to my aid! 20 Deliver my soul from the sword, my life from the power of the dog! 21 Save me from the mouth of the lion! From the horns of the wild oxen you have rescued me. 22 I will tell of your name to my brothers and sisters; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you: 23 You who fear the Lord, praise him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him; stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel! 24 For he did not despise or abhor the affliction of the afflicted; he did not hide his face from me, but heard when I cried to him. 25 From you comes my praise in the great congregation; my vows I will pay before those who fear him. 26 The poor shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the Lord. May your hearts live forever! 27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord; and all the families of the nations shall worship before him. 28 For dominion belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations. 29 To him, indeed, shall all who sleep in the earth bow down; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust, and I shall live for him. 30 Posterity will serve him; future generations will be told about the Lord, 31 and proclaim his deliverance to a people yet unborn, saying that he has done it.

"So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God." The right hand is considered the position of authority, in other words, the authority of God. For all we know there is no physical form of God in heaven; there'd just be Jesus. But of course Jesus would be the earthly form of God, so who knows what he'd look like in heaven.

The rest deals with the trinity. There's the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. All are "of" God. The father is the big cheese, Jesus is God made manifest, and the Holy Spirit is God in us. At least that's the essence of it. Some Christians (i.e. Unitarians) reject the concept of the Trinity, some reject the divinity of Christ. Make up your own mind, I guess. We'll all find out one day. Or there'll just be blackness and we would've never known we were right/wrong.

 

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, all are one substance, theya re the same in substance in thought in Word in deed. All pointed toward the same goal man's salvation

When Jesus who was God Spoke thus to the Rich young ruler he hoped to elicit from him the same sort of confession as that of Peter. "My God and my Lord." Receiving it not he continued on.

At that moment God the son was stricken by all the sns of the world and with him they were crucified. God the fanter cannot know sin or be in contact with it ergo for the only time in a realtionship that began before God ever said "Let there be light" they were briefly seperated. God the son could only take man's sin upon him because he wore human flesh.

 

Not "a god" - "god". That's completly different. Nevertheless: Why? Because he became crucified like a criminal? Or because someone teached you something else? And to be correct: we don't say "Jesus is god" (that's only a shortcut) - We say: "We believe: Jesus is god and man."

http://youtu.be/e51kCAd4En4

 

Which does not contradict my argument in any way.

 

You put this under the "Jesus was God" list.

My question is why ?

 

How could they be the same in thought when they didn't have the same will?

When did the Father ever pray to the Son?

 

What makes you say they didn't have the same will ?

 

Matthew 26:39

 

That doesn't say Jesus will was different than the fathers. That is just the weakness of the flesh.


So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.

 

Who in Hell do you think you're kidding?

That is all predicated on the submission of the will of the Son to the will of the Father. If they have the same will, there is no submission and Jesus was never tempted.

 

I will just never for the life of me understand the trinity, it is one of the most mind blowing things to comprehend. Why would God put himself in mortal form (but still he was available to speak to I guess spiritually?) on Earth just to sacrifice himself to fix some kind of problem that he made to begin with? I don't get it in the slightest, but you know, whatever makes you happy to believe in... lol

Or you know what? Maybe Jesus had a split personality, in one personality he was himself, in the other he was God, and in the third he was the Holy Ghost? Haha...just tossing that thought out there. It certainly might explain all the unusual contradictions in his teachings (multiple identities speaking at different times.)

 

Did you make an argument? Your OP appears to simply list verses, post a link, and ask a question. Do you have an "argument?"

 

. Because " you" say so? ......uh...okay...