Intelligence and 9/11

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  1. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    Hannibal said I was wrong. I was making a point, not trying to make myself look superior.

    Are you going to apologize?
     
  2. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Apologize for what? The fact is you did use your supposed military service to pretend to be better than those that didn't serve despite your claims to the contrary. Your motivations for pretending to be better are not material to the discussion. I was spot on.

    Are you going to address the points made that prove you were wrong? I seem to recall you posting where you address those and admit when you are wrong, yet here you are still running.
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What point were you trying to make?
     
  4. Jango

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    Those yellow foot steps represent a world completely different than the world you're used to. It was a shellshocking, worldview changing moment when I stepped on my pair. NAB was trying to say that truthers cannot take criticism. Well, I am a truther. I can take criticism. I was in the Marine Corps. I endured Marine Corps. Drill Instructors and then Marine Corps. NCOs. They give criticism willingly, and usually because a young PVT or PFC f'n deserves it because they're dumber than rocks, as well, the natural hazing/(*)(*)(*)(*) rolls down hill routine. The point I was making is that I doubt many of you could take, reactionlessly, the amount, severity, and duration of criticism I sustained while earning my Eagle, Globe, and Anchor, because the pamphlet does not lie, it is the hardest recruit training known to man. The DI's know how to play the game, and they played games too! They break us down and then build us back up. Every day. Several times a day. For three months. I don't know if I've mentioned it or not before, but I was a tough guy and I requested to get IT'ed whenever someone else was getting IT'ed. That made things interesting. Made things interesting. I got extra attention. And you have to understand, the killhats, when they've got you alone, they say all kinds of things to you. And, you've just got to keep doing pushups, or whatever they've got you doing until they're tired of seeing you do it. So...I can take criticism just fine, especially if they're legitamate. I'm man enough to man up to my mistakes and whatnot.
     
  5. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    For saying this:
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well my daughter did it with ease and proud of it but she was glad to get out because she was tired of the stupidity and idiots.
     
  7. Patriot911

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    That is not just my opinion, but the opinions of Marines who have read what you wrote.

    Here is what they told me to post:
    By proclaiming yourself a Marine and knowingly and willingly lying in order to push an anti-government agenda, you have sullied the reputation of the Corps.

    One example of your lies is the fact you claim Bush had advance knowedge and through his inaction, allowed 9/11 to happen. It has been explained to you that Bush does not have to give the CIA and FBI the order to protect us from a threat. That is their mandate. Yet you insist on perpetuating your lie by repeating it. You also refuse to address this lie despite the fact you claim to address the "flaws" in your theories. This is ONE example.

    By the Marine Corps stated values, you are a disgrace to the Marines on many levels. This is not my opinion. That is according to the Marines. I cannot, nor will I, apologize for the Marines.

    If you didn't want to be judged by the code of values of the Marines, you shouldn't have proclaimed that you are a Marine.
     
  8. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    The bolded statement above is a lie as shown by your repeated posts on the matter and your childish response to criticism. You cannot take criticism nor have you responded in a mature manner to criticism. Unless, of course, you call marking 40+ posts with dislike simply because you can't address the fact your theories are bull(*)(*)(*)(*) as a mature response to criticism of your theories.... :lol: I sure don't.
     
  9. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Please express my heartfelt thanks to your daughter for the service she has given to this nation of ours!
     
  10. Hannibal

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    You want a cookie?

    I'll tell you straight up: you Sir are no Marine. A real Marine would not behave with dishonor.
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks, I have to admit it both surprised me and scared me when she joined but also made me proud but then I volunteered during a "police action" in Vietnam so I should not have been surprised.
     
  12. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    D'oh! Well, if you had any interaction with First Cav helicopter pilots back during that police action, I would be interested in any stories. I might even know them! :lol: To say they are crazy is to seriously understate their condition!

    You have my heartfelt thanks and admiration for the service you have given this great nation of ours. Thank you.
     
  13. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because of my training and shredout I never went overseas but I knew a helicopter gunner and he was a true nutcase. We were in the beginning of the hang gliding and ultralite movement and he took chances no one else would and when we got drunk he would tell stories of his exploits in Vietnam.
     
  14. Hannibal

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    Thank you for your service and your daughter's service, from the entire Hannibal clan.
     
  15. jl_vera

    jl_vera New Member

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    sure there wasn't, since the analysis was made by the same guys who crushed the buildings. :bounce:
     
  16. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Truthers provide no evidence but rather provide questions as if the questions in effect, prove their point. Rather than provide an entire hypothesis, they feel they need only present a single apparent anomalous question, one that they proceed to answer through an Argument to Incredulity. This behavior is tightly coupled with a refusal to state a hypothesis, and is contrary to the Scientific Method. The hypothesis is the basis for using facts and experimentation to verify the hypothesis.

    Truthers believe that the multitude of organizations that were involved in the NIST report were somehow all in collusion, such organizations like NASA, Langley, Purdue University and the National Science Foundation.
     
  17. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yup its exactly like going to municipal court.

    You are cited by some municipal agent, charged by a municipal attorney, judged by a municipal judge, all of whose salaries are paid by the same municipality and that is called the just-us club.

    BUT

    You had due process and a fair hearing!

    (and the proof is that they used to do it in england that way!)
     
  18. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Looks more like laughing points to me!


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    troughers either duck and run or come up with some of the most ridiculous excuses I ever heard
     
  19. Patriot911

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    Wrong. Much of the evidence of explosives would be available to the public without the need for analysis by "the same guys who crushed the buildings". For instance, the video tapes we have of the collapse of WTC 7 show zero audible signs of explosives going off inside the building. Such explosions can be heard for miles, yet the tapes were from just blocks away. One can clearly hear the collapse and the explosions are much louder than the collapse. This is just one example of many. Truthers like to pretend all the evidence only comes from the government, but that is just one of their many lies they really wish people would quit pointing out. :lol:
     
  20. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    You mean truthers either duck and run or come up with some of the most ridiculous excuses anyone has ever heard.

    Like this one truther actually tried to convince everyone that the government has the technology to insert CGI into all live broadcasts and all private tapes of an event like 9/11. This is the extremely pathetic and retarded excuse he came up with to explain how private cameras recorded what he ignorantly claims never happened, i.e. the planes hitting the buildings. When confronted by the sheer lunacy of his claim, rather than explain it, present evidence his claims are true or admit he was lying out his ass, he ducks and runs. It really is a pathetic and typical example of truther behavior.
     
  21. NAB

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    My father is a retired Master Sergeant (did 3 tours in Vietnam, one he volunteered for) and never once whined about his time in the Corp. He loved it. He did hate sh!t birds though.
     
  22. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem truthers have is lack of evidence and even a lack of hypothesis to test against. All they have are questions and innuendo which they believe is supporting fact.
     
  23. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    the problem with troughers is that they simply make (*)(*)(*)(*) up, repeat ad hominen, and expect everyone to believe their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is real
     
  24. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Wrong yet again. Once again you describe truthers such as yourself to a "T". We're not the ones who make up bull(*)(*)(*)(*) like the government has the ability to insert CGI into every live video feed and tape recording in real time. That would be YOUR made up bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    [video=youtube;G2y8Sx4B2Sk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk[/video]
     
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    They no longer make lawyers learn Latin anymore, huh?
     

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