Intelligence and 9/11

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    The same thing that happened with the trougher that thought they could argue wtc 7 is a natural collapse.
     
  2. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    So because others did it, that justifies you doing it? Man, you need to go back to Ssunday school.

    Yes, and that was justified. It STILL doesn't excuse you lying your ass off about what happened on 9/11 to try and get people to overthrow the government, does it. Nope. Not even slightly.

    Don't forget the general distain and hatred for truthers who use people's hurt to fuel their agendas. That's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ty.

    Yup. I can actually defend what I believe. You cannot. I can discuss the issues. You cannot. You have to rely on truthard conspiracy sites to give you the lies you use even when you've been proven they lie to you. I do not. I present the evidence you can't refute so you ignore it. You're a slave to the truther religion. I am free because the truth has set me free.

    Try to understand the difference between self righteous and righteous. You are lying to push a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) agenda and try to pretend you are doing the right thing. That is self righteous. I am defending the truth as the evidence dictates. Isn't defending the truth the right thing to do? I believe so.

    I think every true patriot doesn't trust the government. Our founding fathers' biggest fear was government. How is that NOT patriotic and American? I've yet to find a founding father say it is OK to lie to try and overthrow the government. Perhaps you can enlighten us with a quote?

    You think this is the only place I post? :lol: Grow up and explore other areas.
     
  3. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    What a whiny cop out.

    Jango, if you don't want to hear what we have to say, the ignore button is really handy. Plug your ears and keep whining.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    so not only are you scientifically handicapped you are also historically handicapped.

    Founding "fathers" is a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*).

    They copied pre-existing english documents.

    If you knew anything about history at all you would know that the only difference between the USA and UKA is the monarchy was exchanged for a plutocracy.

    The government of today exists as a result of fraud, the original government was taken over by degree by insurgents 200 years ago.
     
  5. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Wrong yet again. No surprise there. Think anyone

    Oh look! Isn't that CUTE!?! Koko is trying to impress everyone with his distain for the US again by trying to pull up obscure facts as though they are somehow relevant to the discussion at hand! :lol: When you can't win the debate, dazzle 'em with bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is Koko's motto.

    :blahblah::blahblah: Koko, I keep thinking your posts can't possibly get any more self serving or full of bull(*)(*)(*)(*), but to your credit, you constantly prove there is no bottom to how far you can sink

    So... you spend an entire post trying to convince everyone our government is based on something completely different and then you try and pretend the "original" government was something special that got taken over? BWAAAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for proving your own irrelevancy.
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    see troughers simply dont get it. their expertise extends to puppy chow and koolaid and do not know the distinctions in law any more than they are capable of understanding the distinctions of these demolitions on september 11.

    Feel free to start a thread and invite me to join about the gubbermintafia and I will mop the floor with you as I do everyone else on these forums. I know you wont do that because we both know that you arent up to that challenge any more than you are up to the challenges I posted here.

    So you think you got the goods? Ok then! Make the thread and lets go ringo!

    [video=youtube;JGpajGj07BU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGpajGj07BU[/video]

    oh and for the complete (*)(*)(*)(*)ing comprehension challenged retards out here the clip is not a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing death threat TO ANYONE.
     
  7. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    :lol: No thanks, Koko. Frankly, you're not worth debating. You've got nothing and everyone knows that. Your self professed knowledge is obtained through picture books and boxes of cracker jacks because it sure isn't science. You can't defend your claims even a little bit, and have nothing but petty insults and garbage. I am surprised others bother to debate you, but you've been extremely consistant in your absolute failure. So have a good rest of the day, Koko. See if some of the other guys are interested in an excercise in futility with you. Oh, and tell us again how the government has this technology that can put CGI of planes on private tapes in real time! :lol: Your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) wouldn't even be believable in a science fiction or fantasy book.
     
  8. zimo

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    Furthermore, these traits are true of most conspiracy theorists.
     
  9. NAB

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    Calling out dumbasses on the interwebs is not an unknown commodity. Why do Truthers get a pass when it happens on every forum, on every type of topic, every day?

    Truthers are some of the most thin-skinned whiners the web have to offer.
     
  10. Jango

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    Even when they say they have thick-skin, most people are really thinned skinned. There's a limit for everyone. And most people cannot grin, smile, or look the other way through sustained criticism. I've had to be reactionless while enduring intense amounts of sustained in-person, up close and personal, criticism. Drill Instructors, bless their hearts and souls for the job they have to do, are not pleasant men and women to be around while they're in cycle. I doubt very much that many of you could stand on the yellow foot steps.
     
  11. Hannibal

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    Wrong again.
     
  12. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    That's why I said 'many'. What is the statistical representation of the gang being in military service?

    Patriot?
    Dave?
    Fangbeer?
    Lonestar?
    BullsLaw?
    Hoosier?
    NAB?

    I presume you were by your reaction.
     
  13. Hannibal

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    Other than stroking your ego, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?
     
  14. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    HAHA...you said I was wrong, man.
     
  15. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Sorry kid,but when I was 18 I was working in the oil field,and by 23 I was working through a bout of testicular cancer.....no time for yellow steps.
     
  16. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    How is it you can supposedly get through boot camp, yet after your tour is done you whine and throw childish temper tantrums like hitting dislike for 40+ posts? As for criticism, a man will stand up, take the criticism, and if it has merit, become a better man. Truthers don't take criticism at all, and almost all of it is deserved. The problem is that if they take the criticism and become better people, they are no longer a truther because they have to look at the evidence and what the evidence clearly shows as the truth. All this jumping from theory to theory to theory despite the fact the theories are conflicting and you can't defend any of them should be a HUGE clue something is wrong, yet truthers ignore this fact like they ignore so many others.

    The more you try and pretend you were a Marine the more I am doubting your claims. Personally, I've never seen a Marine with as little respect for his country or as little knowledge of military affairs like war games.
     
  17. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Ouch! Funny how a very small minority of those who have served and a huge majority of those who pretend they have served pretend they are somehow better than everyone else. Every veteran I've known, from the Korean war through Afghanistan, has downplayed their service and I have met THOUSANDS. I have never once met one that said they were better than me as a person whether because of their service or not EVEN WHEN IT IS OBVIOUS THEY ARE. It is usually the quickest way you can find the fakers.

    Glad you made it through your bout with cancer, LoneStrSt8. That is a battle with its own horrors I wouldn't wish on anyone. Not even a truther.
     
  18. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    No sweat,bumps in the road...Thanks,though.
     
  19. Jango

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    If you took the time to actually notice, or if you care to know, I disliked those posts for a reason, Patriot. They're of your less than favorable tone and presentation, extremely rude, mean, and uncivil. You don't need to be calling people stupid, retarded, or any combination of the like. If your posts are insultive, I will dislike them. I am wanting reform out of you, young man.

    I agree.

    I take criticism just fine. I admit when I am wrong. I apologize too. There is evidence of this on this message board. But paint away.

    I accepted the evidence for ten years. Then, upon closer inspection, the anomalies started popping up. The anomalies that weren't shared or weren't exactly made common knowledge or talking points. They're d a m ning.

    I defend the theories I put forth.

    Good for you, dishonorable as it is.

    I have respect where respect is due, man. Is that simply too hard for you to grasp? Is your patriotism that dense, that thick, that the bad things we do do, we just get a free pass for it?

    Regarding military knowledge...wow. It is a vast and huge catalog of affairs. I was an 0811, I knew my MOS relatively well, but I couldn't, and won't claim to know everything regarding military knowledge. I wasn't a twenty year guy.
     
  20. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Yes. You're butthurt over your lies being exposed. Don't worry. Like I said, I didn't take offense. It is a mark of approval I bear with pride!

    I give like I get. You're extremely rude and uncivil as well. Or do you consider making (*)(*)(*)(*) up about people kind and civilized? Or are we suppose to just excuse your actions because you are a self righteous truther?

    That is what I call your opinions and theories, not you. Maybe you should pay attention before getting all butthurt.

    Frankly, who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) what you want. Dislike them all you want. You want change, change yourself first. Tell the truth. Look at the evidence. Quit making (*)(*)(*)(*) up about people.

    Then why don't you do it?

    You have demonstrated quite clearly you can't. You still can't produce evidence. You still believe conspiratard sites that lie to you and post their lies as though it is truth. You still dismiss the evidence that proves you are wrong. You still refuse to address the points made that prove you are wrong.

    Not that I've ever seen.

    Not that I've ever seen.

    Great. Another thing we're suppose to believe on faith of your good word. No thank you.

    The anomalies have answers you refuse to look at because it destroys the basis of your hatred. Every single anomaly you've brought up has been addressed. MOST you run away from with your skirt hiked up. Like pretending Bush had warnings about the attack but somehow didn't give orders to the CIA and FBI to react against these threats. You've recently repeated those claims despite the fact you've been told that Bush doesn't have to give the CIA or FBI orders to do their jobs. Did you address that fact? No. CAN you address that fact? No. Why? Because it exposes the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) of your claims. Did you admit you were wrong? Not even close. Did you lie when you said you admit when you're wrong? Apparently.

    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Complete and utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*). See what I just addressed above as proof positive you run.

    Not dishonorable. If you are a Marine, you are a disgrace to the Marines. If you're not a Marine, you're worse.

    More running from you. You can't address 9/11 so you try to deflect by bringing up other bad things the US has done. I've acknowledged those. Are they pertinent to 9/11? No. Are they an excuse by you to try and get, as you put it, a free pass? No.

    For ANY military man to not understand the nature of war games and excercises is a red flag in my book. Many other people's books as well. What... you think I don't share your silliness with other friends of mine who ARE Marines? You produce comedy GOLD when you try to pretend you're military!
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is some truther logic from Professor Griffin.

    First from a Truther website wanttoknow.info where his expertise is appropriate for the truther movement.

    Now for some of his logic.

     
  22. Jango

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    Why are you being a dickhead?
     
  23. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    I'm not. I am giving you my opinion and the opinions of my friends who I know for a FACT are or were Marines. Also Air Force, Army (many Vietnam era Helicopter pilots), and Navy. Like I said, I've never ONCE seen one of them try to lord their service over others as though it somehow made them better than others. Another big red flag you MIGHT not be being honest about your past.

    Why is it that is the ONLY point of my post you can address? I pointed out an obvious lie of yours that has already been pointed out to you. You did not address the lie. You did not refute that it was a lie. Where is all your self righteous chest beating? Aren't you the one trying to convince everyone you're such the good and honest person that you would never do what I've pointed out with examples?
     
  24. Jango

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    You offended me greatly. I in no way tried to make myself seem greater than you, or anyone else because of my military service. And if it came across that way, I apologize. Frankly, I think you'd enjoy the sight of my death the way you talk to me.
     
  25. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Well, once again you would be wrong. I don't wish you any harm at all. Not now. Not ever. And if you seriously can't see you pretending your military service makes you better than everyone else, why then the talk about the yellow steps and calling people out BY NAME to see if they've served? Once again your past posts disprove your claims. Once again you failed to address the flaws in your claims.
     

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