Election results, #1

Jeez I haven't seen such a bunch of whining crybabies as in this thread since November 2008. What a bunch of bad losers.

 

Republicans want to actually FIX the economy. Unlike Obama who just wanted to play class warfare. Now, maybe now he won't think it so necessary....because he doesn't have to worry about another election. But somehow, I don't think that way of looking at things is in his genes. He's all about class and racial warfare. Obama wants to say.....you were successful, and we don't really like successful people, we'd rather punish you some more and make you pay even more taxes than you pay now. He wants to pick winners and losers and punish success. The FACT is.....even if he raised their taxes more he wouldn't get much revenue out of it. But what he might do is discourage any of them from starting any new businesses or hiring anymore people. Why not just pass the Bush tax cuts....making them permanent as they are? Or if he can't do that, at least extend them for 3 or 4 more years....and see what we get from it.

"Spending increases???" Don't you mean spending decreases? How does one fix the economy and debt by increasing the spending?

 

Cute. Forgive us; we actually CARE about our country.

 

The problem I have with conservatives is their stances on social issues. But Romney still would've been better than Obama over all. Obama is going to bankrupt us.

 

Yep. . .
Well, I think that to all the whiners, this picture of President Obama will speak louder than words:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/598366_4954822674993_251159671_n.jpg

 

Huge tax cuts for the richest 1% is not FIXING economy.

 

CBS reports Romney calls President, concedes, will speak soon

 

Had to chuckle at that one. : )

 

Right. Obama is all about class and racial warfare.

Offering Republicans $2.50 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases as part of a deal to eliminate the deficit is not extreme, and it's not "class and racial warfare".

Yet Republicans rejected that, hewing instead to their extremist "no tax hikes of any sort" line.

You're paranoid extremism is part of the problem, JP5. And it's why the GOP got slapped down tonight.

 

Point to me a Republican president who was fiscally responsible. Point to me a Republican who actually shrunk government. You have to go back to Eisenhower to find a Republican who could by any standard be considered a fiscally responsible president!!

 

Okay.....so let's examine this. They are as a group religious right? So are Republicans; more so than Democrats. They are usually against gay marriage right? So are Republicans, for the most part. And yet no takers, right?

So....you tell me. What do you think appeals to blacks about the Democrat party? What do Democrats offer them that makes them want to stay with them for decades after decades even though they claim their plight hasn't really gotten much better?

 

If you cared, you wouldn't have sent young Americans to die in Iraq for no reason and you would have gotten Bin Laden.

Obama fixed both of those for you. You're welcome.

 

Reagan was. He got us out of a recession and did it before his first 4 years were up. Even Bill Clinton was more fiscally astute than Barack Obama and the current day Dems.

 

There's nothing left worth fighting for in America. 2008 should have been seen as a huge mistake. Idiots far and wide believed this guy would bring everyone together and bring an end to the ugly politics we all knew. 4 years later, we're more divided than ever, spiraling out of control, and they vote for him again? Obama may have been born here but he isn't an American. His values are foreign to the principles America was founded on. He's a Eurosocialist who is trying to turn America into another failed progressive Euro welfare state, and Americans wanted more of it.

 

Reagan increased the deficit more than any president with the exception of FDR by the only standard that matters(percentage increase). The idea that a person who almost tripled the debt is a good example, is a strange disconnect I cannot explain.

 

Republican strategist David Frum was ultimately right. Republicans blew it. They chose obstructionism as a means to weaken and defeat the President. It worked temporarily in the 2010 elections but they ultimately failed when it really counted. They will now be on defense. They can act like adults now or continue acting like spoiled children at their own political peril.

http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo/

 

Its the free money from the Job creators, that trumps any religious agenda quite honestly. Democrats have done more for blacks with giving them more government assistance.

Both parties were responsible for civil rights, so that can't be used as the reason.

I don't feel there is anything wrong with that, they need welfare look at Europe, it has helped its poor with generous welfare and they have better countries than us. It appears that those who get help from the government spending, do better at life.

 

Oh really? All by his little self, eh? Newsflash: more military were killed in Afghanistan under Obama than under Bush. Obama started things up again in Afghanistan for no real reason.....just because he wanted to try to claim he was finishing something that Bush didn't. But Bush did what he wanted to achieve in Afghanistan; destroying the al Qaeda training camps and it was pretty quite there until Obama came in acting like a big shot. As far as bin Laden......yeah that was great. But name me ONE former president who wouldn't have given that same order. ONE. Those Seals were working on that all along....even before Obama came in. And for him not to give them ALL the credit was disgusting....but typical Obama.

 

Maybe you need to persuade them that you're on their side, and aren't just the party of old rich white men.

Blacks are disproportionately poor and working class; the GOP constantly attacks the social safety net and things like the Earned Income credit, which rewards the *working* poor. Voter ID is a direct assault on minority voting. So is most GOP-led gerrymandering. The GOP's "Southern Strategy" was thinly-disguised race baiting, and the GOP is still the party of choice among white supremacists.

So first, you have to regain their trust.

 

You gotta be kidding me. Reagan fiscally responsible? The guy slashed tax revenues and ran up spending like a trust fund baby who got control of the checkbook. The tripled the deficits and almost tripled the debt in just 8 years.

Reagan was the first of the great fiscally irresponsible leaders we've had.

 

I lost a lot of respect for Frum when he said we needed to vote for Romney or else the right-wing would destroy the country.

But he was right about the obsructionism.

 

We need to get rid of the two party system. But the Libertarians have it wrong. There is no way in hell either Ron Paul or Johnson could win. I would've voted Obama if one of them had gotten the Republican nomination and so would a lot of other moderates.

 

Did Romney win...ANY swing states?

 

It is amazing to me that Americans are willing to settle for mediocrity and failure, and worse, willing to vote for it. Obama has increased the deficit, he is about to weaken the military, he has overseen two credit downgrades, he has made a mockery of family values and religious freedom, and with a democratic senate he will subordinate us even more than we already are to the UN, he assures that Iran will get a nuclear weapon in short order, he has insured that Israel is more isolated and vulnerable to their enemies both in their region and within their borders, he has insured that the tyranny of the Muslim brotherhood will become entrenched and more unified across the region of the middle east, he has ensured that China will continue to expand their economic expansion through unfair trade practices and weaken us, in addition to the military, economically geopolitically globally as they out compete us educationally and economically and increasingly militarily. He has secured a Mexican presence within our borders that will lead to increased tensions with Mexico as their drug cartels increasingly control our border regions, he has insured that we will be dependant on foreign oil and at the mercy of our enemies, he has insured that Russia will re-emerge as a threat to its European and Asian neighbors as he weakens America's influence and leadership in NATO. Gloat in your victory, but America has become just another nation now, we are no longer a leader in the world at anything.

 

Classy concession speech by Romney.