65% of Puerto Ricans vote to become 51st state - Lord help us

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  1. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

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    That exemplifies everything that is wrong with the liberal attitude on immigration. You say let everyone in unless we can prove they will be a burden. I say let no one in unless they have they some valuable skill to offer america. The burden of proof should be on the invaders.
     
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    Curious. Ours is a country of immigrants. It was founded by immigrants. It owes it's very nature to immigrants. Your ancestors were immigrants. What is this "invader" stuff? Ever been to Puerto Rico? Are you familiar with any Puerto Ricans?
     
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    How is it that you're still alive? I guess it's because you spew all your racist crap anonomously on line, cause in real life you'd have the crap knocked out of you....
     
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    As usual you LIB are talking out of your ********s. A: The "immigrants" come to America LEGALLY. That's my problem with 'queue' jumpers. When some one sneaks into the country without going through the LEGAL channels they are already saying: "I'm the sort of person who has no problem committing an illegal act as long as it benefits me". Yes America is a 'country of immigrants' If YOUR family had spent years trying to come to America, spent the entire families life's earnings and are still waiting for some 'metro-sexual- in NYC to bother to stamp your documents so you could move to the next step and you watch tens of thousands of people streaming across the border illegally what would YOU think? Yeah right! HOWEVER when these people entered the country there were essentially NO safety nets. You made it on your own or you perished. Now in Liberal-land Obama's America everyone gets a trophy just for showing up. That socialist ideology is ruining America. You simply can not take the greatest country in history and drag it into a Greece without destroying the country. But you don't want America to be what is was. You want a country that gives everyone a trophy. Well it's never worked in world history so far. But you've given Obama another four years to accomplish his ambition. Good luck when your welfare cheque don't arrive bc the 'Makers' have all decided to bugger off to Canada. This whole deal is like some multimillionaire dying and leaving his wealth to some idiot who literally doesn't know if a duck's a bird. In his wisdom he decides to invest the entire portfolio in something called 'Facebook'. I predict that the next UR.......even with the 'holiday season' hiring basically desperate slave labor will climb above 8%. The Obamatowners actually think that the REPs are now going to 'work' to make Obama's policies a historic success. Good luck with that. In a year the UR will be over 9%. One half of the country just went to war with the other half.
     
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    Funny but I do not remember them passing native Indian immigration,they just turned up.
     
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    If you don't have a skill we need you should not be allowed citizenship. Different times. (*)(*)(*)(*) has to change and NOW before it's too late. We're teetering on the cliff and the longer people pander and try to feel good about themselves the quicker it will all fall apart.
     
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    Do you really want to go into that? Do your American history sweetheart........probably not today right?
     
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    16.5% of their population is unemployed. Guess what unemployed people typically ask the Government for?
     
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    It would be incredibly easy. He could just call Republicans "the enemy" like he did a few years ago, and promise them welfare. Presto, a Democrat voter!
     
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    I know that Europeans just turned up uninvited so no they were not all legal immigrants as you claim.
     
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    Please leave my country.
     
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    The funny thing is there are Western countries who have immigration policies like the one you want. New Zealand won't let you in unless you can prove you have money in the bank and a skill that would benefit the country. Why can't we be like that?

    Oh, that's right, successful productive people might not vote Democrat.
     
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    Puerto Ricans are already U.S. citizens. If they come to the mainland, it's called moving, not immigration. They do not have senators, but they do have representatives in the House. They cannot vote for President. They pay income taxes.

    Catholicism is the dominant religion. However, most Catholics vote for Democrats. They would be no different.
     
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    This has to be one of the most ignorant racist posts I've ever read.

    If Puerto Rico becomes the 51st State then each and every man, woman, and child in Puerto Rico will assume over $40,000 in US debt. Personally I think they're foolish to want to become a state but if they want to assume this part of the US national debt then they're welcome to it. Forty thousand dollars per person is a lot of money to just become a US state when they can have virtually all of the benefits (e.g. national defense) without this financial obligation.

    http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=273
     
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    Puerto Rico is somehow the invader in this fantasy? If anything they were the ones invaded!
     
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    There are roughly 40 million immigrants in the United States leading productive lives that benefit our nation and even with this we need more. Often delegated to jobs of hard labor and low wages they perform tasks that most Americans would refuse to do. The wealth of America has been built on the backs of immigrants since the earliest days of the United States while a small percentage of "white" Americans have reaped the profits of that labor. Without immigtration of fundamentally unskilled immigrant labor the economy of the United States would collapse but don't tell the ignorant racists these simple facts.

    They live in denial of reality in a mythical world where only the very wealthy white minority matter, which, by the way, use low paid immigrants to mow their lawns and take care of their children at poverty level wages.
     
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    Puerto Ricans already have citizenship.
     
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    "65% of Puerto Ricans vote to become 51st state - Lord help us"

    And repubs wonder why so many people hold them in complete and well deserved contempt.
     
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    I wasn't talking about them. Just immigrants.
     
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    Cuba was an interesting situation.
    Yes we should have kept it, it was very much one of the biggest prizes of the war. There were even talks of making it a state while the war was still going on. The reason things turned out the way they did was because of the press (the press was also partially responsible for the war starting because loads of newspapers printed that the Spanish had blown up the Main before an investigation could even start, causing most Americans to instantly turn against the Spanish and clamor for a war). During the war the newspapers constantly made comparisons to our own revolution, making it seem like Cuba were us, Spain was England, and we were playing the role France had played. Making it seem like we were just being a generous helping liberator that would allow them to have independence once the war was over. By the time the conflict ended, most Americans believed this, and so to avoid PR disaster, the government had to bitterly forget about owning the island (except Guantanamo Bay, we kept that bit). Other territories we did hold on to though, some for better or for worse, such as Puerto Rico, and Guam. The Philippines were a mistake on our part and we should have left them alone. They thought we would let them have their independence like we did with Cuba, but since they were so far away, there was very little press, or PR pressure to let them be on their own, so we stayed, which led to them revolting... and us killing 600,000 of them... we did let them go after WW2 at least, and they harbor no ill will, with most of their national dislike still pointed towards Japan, not us.
     
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    1. Puerto Ricans are already American.

    2. The GOP will only further reduce it's strength if it opposes statehood for PR. If PR were to become a state, yes, it's senators and probably half of it's congressmen would be Democrats. However keep in mind that any party that opposes statehood will likely be labeled as xenophobic and further lose the latino vote. If the GOP stonewalls statehood for PR, look to see it's share of the latino vote go from 30% to 20% or less.
     
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    The sooner Israel gets nuked the better off the world will be. It looks like the Iranians are dumber than cave men. They should have just bought some nukes since the seem incapable of building some on their own. Israel isn't our concern.

    The Puerto Rico issue needs to be resolved. It's been going on for 114 years. Since they are already citizens they might as well become a State. Get it done.
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Even if the Repubs lose Latino votes it really wouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things. So from that standpoint it's senseless for the Repubs to worry about it.

    Puerto Rico should become a State because it's the right thing to do.
     
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    If puerto rico and DC become states that is 2 or 3 more electoral votes for Democrats in the elections
     
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    Then let Eastern Washington/Oregon and the panhandle of Idaho become state. It would be as red as Wyoming.
     

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