Gun Purchase Without Background Check | What's Your Stance?

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Do you support the purchase of firearms without background checks?

  1. Yes, I do.

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  2. No, I don't.

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  3. I'm on the fence... I'll explain.

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    It's too bad we've become such a suspicious people.....errr suspicious government. The people whom the left seems to care most about are either immoral, criminal minded, abortionistic, collective minded and/or needy. But good, strong, hard working, upright, law abiding folks who are perfectly suited to freedom are perpetually targeted for derision by the left.
     
  2. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Of course I support background check, only criminals would like to have no background checks.
     
  3. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    How many mass shooters had felony's? Look at Ft.hood, the major had no prior mental health nor criminal history. These checks wouldn't do anything, but offend the liberty further of a law abiding gun owner.

    After individuals have paid their debt to society all their rights should be restored including gun ownership.

    Most of the Gangsters and thugs in the Presidents hometown of Chicago, don't obtain their guns legally to begin with. Most of the crime statistics belong to them, they shoot each other daily with unlawful weapons obtained on the black market.

    His "common sense" solutions are not common sense at all. He was a drug user, he knows making drugs illegal proliferates them on the black market, it will be the same with making Guns illegal.
     
  4. hiimjered

    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Criminals and people who don't want to spend the extra money to pay for the check, and people who aren't comfortable with the government having extra records on them.

    Let's apply your statement to something similar: I support the government putting recording devices in every home. Only criminals would be afraid of the government hearing what they say.
     
  5. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, if he's been released from prison.

    if you think he's going to re-offend why did you let him out?
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's illegal for the government to do that though without a search warrant and probable cause. Requiring a background check for those who wish to own a firearm is not the same as changing the law to allow the government to spy on people in their homes without probable cause.
     
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    Gee in the last 20 ? No more than that but... I have gotten a background check for all but 3 weapons that I have possessed. Those weapons were legally obtained and were gifts.

    One sporting rifle in 7.62x39 (my deer rifle) was given by my parents, 2 handguns were gifts from my wife (permits were issued to her). She has one handgun that was given to her as a gift by me (I got that permit).

    I have no issues with background checks and I think they need to be broadened to gun shows and private sales where the purchaser is not in the family and handgun ammunition. I also feel that there needs to be a national gun/ammunition permit system. Permits are renewed for free (very small fee) and allow you to more quickly buy ammunition and long guns.

    I do not mean a federal system for the permit I mean a state system much like concealed carry where other states accept it.
     
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    How about a background check to have sex? No permit and sex is a felony!
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    How about home addresses do you support having an address at your home? or how about having a driver's license do you support that or not? If you are afraid about privacy then go to the mountain and be a hermit stay away from towns, cities etc.
     
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    Doctors CANNOT release medical records without a person's consent. Will we be able to deny a gun license because an applicant refuses to release psychiatric records?
     
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    When one applies one gives permission!
     
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    If one must pass a psychiatric exam to get a gun, it wouldn't be fair to libs.
     
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    That is why they don't want us to have them.
     
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    So you are fine with the government listening in on your conversations any time it chooses? I'm OK with with some kind of background requirement, but it shouldn't be at all difficult or time consuming for a private seller, and it needs to not cost the seller, the buyer or taxpayers anything, and it really shouldn't create any record.
     
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    Is it my imagination or are leftists getting more hateful by the day?
     
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    Listening to your conversation or opening your private emails or mails are different from background check to possess a firearm. The only reason that the government will ears drop into your bedroom or private life if you are involve in crminal and terrorist activities. Background check is basically that to make sure no criminals will be license to possess or carry firearms, including mentally ill.

    I am starting to believe that there is something criminal with the NRA that is why they are very much against gun control.

    The problem is the NRA and their supporters can not differentiate that anymore because of the business of the gun industry over ride any sound decision making.

    Even Wyatt Earp would not support the NRA....it is time to bring the Earps out of the grave so that he and his brothers can shot the NRA down :)
     
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    They can be more easily introduced into the black market without there being some record of the transaction. I have three handguns that have never been recorded on any paperwork as belonging to me.
     
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    The 2nd Amendment stipulates that we need a "well-regulated militia." People with discipline problems should, by this wording, be excluded from being armed other than under supervision. DUI or any violent felony or depraved conduct is obviously not consistant with a minimal level of discipline a rational society should expect of an armed person.
     
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    Ayuh,.... Other than the hundreds of assault weapons walked across our southern boarder, by Obo, 'n his gang of liars,..??

    Nope.....
     
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    laws a mercy.....there are no gun show loopholes. Find a legitimate gun show and try it out for yourself............... You'll find out real quick how many UC BATF agents are in those shows.
     
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    And only about one out of five of the guns I have bought or sold at shows can be in any way traced to me. As long as I have my ID badge with this year's sticker, I can do a private sale or purchase, even if I diddled five little boys in January.
     
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    a right is a right. how about background checks to publish? we need to weed out the plagiarists to protect honest writers!...oops, Joe Biden would never pass.

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    hopefully, you'd be in jail or at least weaving thru the criminal justice system.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    now, I know you're not claiming to be a pedophile, are you?
    Again, if you have the correct credentials, you can indeed walk out of a gun show with a firearm. Key term, "CREDENTIALS."
    In Indiana, you used to be able to make a purchase and walk out with it the same day, with a regular ccw..... But since I haven't cruised the loop-holed gunshows, I suspect they are a bit more strict about it now.
     
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    I DO know that the Mexican cartels are paying gringos to buy guns for them at our local (Southern Arizona) gun shows. The gringos seem only too happy to oblige and the sellers are only too happy to make a deal. I don't have any details on gun deaths south of the border, but there have been a bunch.
     

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