More proof that Aids is primarily a homosexual disease

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  1. PrometheusBound

    PrometheusBound New Member

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    No need for me to do that. I challenge the fact that psychiatrists don't earn a living until they are 30 years old and can't even understand the massive psychological damage that causes. Having such stunted people tell us what is psychologically acceptable is as bad as having celibate priests give marriage counseling.
     
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    Wait, so what are you claiming here? That AIDS has ended in Europe and the USA? That's not the case, there are still people dying of AIDS. It's just no longer a gigantic pandemic that's killing people by the boatload. The reason? Extensive safe sex campaigns, spreading knowledge, and acceptance of homosexuality - removing the stigmata attached to homosexuality marginalizes a lot of the riskier, more AIDS-spreading behaviors. What, do you think the AIDS epidemic in Africa is a hoax? I mean, I've heard crazy things before...

    Oh god you're that guy. Never mind.

    Regardless of whether or not it was healthy then (which is certainly up for debate), the fact is that it is no longer "good" any more than the decrees against eating pork in the old testament is good. It's at best dated, and at worst horrific.
     
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    The incest taboo is not in the Bible. And most of the condemnation of homosexuality is not from religious feelings. The instinct against it is healthy, as we will find out when this postmodern permissiveness becomes destructive.
     
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    What makes it "healthy" to be against homosexuality pray tell? To be honest if you took away religion, the vast majority of those opposed to homosexuality wouldn't be opposed at all. Secularism and lack of church attendance correlates highly with pro-gay sentiments. Atheists and Agnostics approve of same-sex marriage and LGBT rights by vast margins - usually between 70 and 80% in the polls I've seen.

    When you take away religion/theological beliefs, the reasons for being anti-gay become significantly more flimsy. Many religious people are opposed to gay rights because they HONESTLY believe their god doesn't approve, and they fear supporting things like SSM will mean them going to hell. They don't personally oppose homosexuality however, and in many cases will have gay friends and family members. I found a good example of this effect reading an article about a Maine woman who said she wanted gay people to marry but was "too scared" to vote for it, for fear of being condemned by the god she believes in. And I suspect that's the case with a lot of anti-gay religious people. Take their religion away and they would likely join the majority of Americans in supporting gay rights and equal marriage.

    You have those who USE their religion to justify their homophobia - the preachers who make out that homosexuality is the greatest sin EVER and the sign of the "end times"... yet typically say nothing of the evils of murder, war, genocide, rape and greed. The people that put homosexuality above the greater issues of the world today are the people who would cling to their homophobia regardless of religion... how you can say that these near-feelings of obsession with what other people are doing behind closed doors and who they love and wish to marry - two consensual adults - is "healthy" is beyond me...
     
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    And because you can't back this up, I'm going to ignore it. ^_^
     
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    Fortunately, your agenda is not being ignored.
     
  7. DevilMay

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    Good. I love my gay radical agenda and hope everyone takes notice :)

    Congressman Frank said it best: "I do have things I would like to see adopted on behalf of LGBT people: they include the right to marry the individual of our choice; the right to serve in the military to defend our country; and the right to a job based solely on our own qualifications. I acknowledge that this is an agenda, but I do not think that any self-respecting radical in history would have considered advocating people's rights to get married, join the army, and earn a living as a terribly inspiring revolutionary platform"
     
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    And who was Mohamed's pimp? An underage girl.

    I think I would have a preference for eating pork to engaging in sex with an underage girl

    Some prophet!
     
  9. kotcher

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    There is no epidemic in Africa, if your naive to believe everything you read, I can not help you. It is very old news that there never was a pandemic in Africa as reported, not even an epidemic amongst heterosexuals. Simply a gay/drug addict disease.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/news/20iht-20aids.8400198.html?_r=0

     
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    I have found Psychologists and Psychiatrists to be Alcoholics, not all, just some. Many in similar Counseling fields have the type of problem they are out to "help" with. I met two men who became Anger Management counselors after being convicted of Domestic Violence.
     
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    Wow, it overestimated the size of the epidemic! I guess there must not be much AIDS any more, right?

    If you're going to be incredibly dishonest, don't make it that easy to call you on it.

    BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

    So most of the drop is in India...

    ...And Africa is still eating proverbial (*)(*)(*)(*). Are you incapable of reading or do you think I am?
     
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    The UN, hardly a credible source, but in this case they revised the numbers down, by 50%, pretty significant.

    I was surprised to learn the numbers are all based on theory, they have no way of knowing the numbers because nobody keeps track of deaths in Africa, that comes from the UN report, its an estimate, based on statistical theory, which is easily manipulated, which we see when the UN revises the numbers by 50%.

    It is a guess based on politics. Nothing more.

    There is no epidemic of AIDS in Africa amongst the Heterosexuals. Most likely among homosexuals and drug users, the numbers are no different than anywhere else.
     
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    What? Hang on a second here.

    "The agency, Unaids, will lower the number of people it believes are infected worldwide, to 33.2 million from the 39.5 million it estimated late last year."

    ...I was unaware that 6.3 million was half of 39.5 million. Again, do you suck or reading, or are a liar and think I do? They revised the number down by 50% in one particular country.

    http://world.bymap.org/HIVDeaths.html

    Documented deaths from HIV. No estimates, no statistical models, straight-up the number of people who died of AIDS. They correlate quite nicely with the "unreliable estimates" you so quickly dismissed (but only after finding out that they don't support your argument quite as well as you think), at least when taken per capita. Oh look, sub-saharan Africa has way worse rates than basically anywhere else. Do they... just have that many more homosexuals and drug users? Than Thailand?!
     
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    Its a guess, nothing more, says so in the reports all you folks link to.
     
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    Do you know the difference between a statistically evaluated estimate and a guess? Probably not. Waste my time, why don't you. It's funny; whenever a piece of research disagrees with you, it's "biased" or "a paid-off conspiracy to push an agenda". Weird how that works out. But I suppose I should know better. After all, it's simply impossible that, say, I dunno, you'd be wrong.
     
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    Homosexuality must be rampant there! Yeah... that's it. </sarcasm>
     
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    Every single last person posting their altogether bog induced inane O-pinion in this category is as about useless as screen doors on a submarine and teats on a bull! Would spouting off for hours upon hours, upon hours, upon hours, upon hours, upon opinion filled hours with all kinds of lame arsed quotes from who knows where about who knows what change a gosh darn thing in this gosh darn situation? No. People will love who they love and it is about as natural and as inevitable as breathing. Get over it.
     
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    Amen to that!!
     
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    We've been data-raped, right in the spot Gays go for.
     
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    Wow. More homophobic nonsense. :(
     
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    Data-raped = shown to be completely and utterly wrong?
     
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    everything is homophobic.... you're the al sharpton of the gay community....


    when someone disagrees, call them a name.
     
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    Not "everything"... but have you read the bulk of commentary here?

    I suggest you wake the frack up.

    BTW, I respond to commentary here; I do not call names as a practice.
     
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    What if some of us like to be data-raped and have a preference for getting rammed into submission over and over again? Wouldn't that pass Politically Correct muster? What if we have a gene that makes us that way? What if those who like to be told the truth secretly love being lied to but are afraid to admit it? Down with Truth Bigots!
     

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