More proof that Aids is primarily a homosexual disease

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  1. Perriquine

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    (emphasis added). The portion I've bolded is the source of the misconception operating here. No one here is arguing that specific populations are equally affected. We're saying that being gay doesn't mean one will become infected (hence, not a "gay disease"), and that being heterosexual doesn't mean you won't become affected (heterosexuality doesn't protect you).

    Calling it a "gay disease" is just a means to demonize gay people, the majority of whom will likely never become infected.
     
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    At the beginning of the homosexual AIDS epidemic, advocates used the scare tactic that it would soon be an epidemic among straights too. They were never held accountable after that didn't happen and therefore proved that sexually transmitted AIDS is strictly a homosexual disease. Their credibility should be at zero. The fact that it isn't, no matter how many times they are caught lying, shows that there are powerful hidden forces protecting their agenda.
     
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    you realize of course that the majority of AIDS cases worldwide are among heterosexuals right?
     
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    Then why are 30 million people in africa dying of AIDS?

    Heterosexuals, mostly women.
     
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    Statistically, you're probably right. However, that is because HIV is thought of as an STD, but it requires direct access to the bloodstream, so it's more accurate to label it as blood-transmitted. Anal sex causes tearing that gives access to the bloodstream. Unprotected anal sex, unless you know to a certainty that your partner is HIV-free, is foolish, whether done by 2 men or a man and a woman.

    But it's equally true that the segment of the population with the lowest incidents of STD's are homosexual women.

    Why is it people seem to forget women can be homosexual, too?
     
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    They don't "forget" it; they are merely outraged in a very selective manner.

    Many heterosexual men would not criticize hot women doing their thing... because they LIKE thinking about it or seeing it.

    I'm a gay man. They could put a plethysmograph on me, and see zero or little reaction to women having sex in front of me.

    I'm just not into that... but many straight men I know, claim it's a massive turn-on.
     
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    But would you be disturbed by the sight of a heterosexual couple having sex the way most heterosexual men are by seeing an all male couple having sex?

    Heterosexuality(at least in men) comes with certain instinctual reactions put there by nature. One of those is a distaste for homosexuality. It is not evil, and it isn't trained into us. It is a natural genetic instinct put there by nature.
     
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    I'm not disturbed by other people having sex. In fact I don't obsessively visualize of fantasize about what would turn me off. It seems a LOT of straight men tend to do that; I just don't get it.

    Prove that BS... please. I know you feel that is the case, but I haven't seen any peer reviewed science claiming that which you have stated.

    No... you have not proven that. Sorry. Now, I CAN surely agree that different people are turned off/on by different thoughts or actions. But no, I'm pretty sure that not all "heterosexuals" are repulsed by homosexuality; actually, I know that as a fact.

    Regardless, it is something that most people can control their reactions to, if that is what they WISH to do.

    Classic BS (most likely).
     
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    Go and read some evolutionary psychology and get back to me after you've educated yourself.
     
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    Go ahead and show where your personal "theories" are accepted as scientific proof. In the meantime, people should question what you've claimed.
     
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    Well, regardless of what one thinks, my personal experience has led to the fact I personally know only gay people who have died of AIDS, and that number is 2. I know of 3 people but one person I did not know personally.

    Its insanity, I should know at least one heterosexual that has died of AIDS, I know so many people, a 1000 people, maybe more, I spend months in Spain, years in Canada, years in Brazil, and most my life in the state with the highest population of gay people. I have over a dozen personal friend that are homosexual. I have a great heterosexual friend that is extremely good looking and was the most promiscuous man possible, any woman he wanted he had. If they would not sleep with him he did not go home with them.

    Of all the people I know and known in my life, my homosexual brother died of AIDS, and a homosexual friend died of AIDS.

    Call it, "Hilar-Peni-Endo-Anu disease"

    http://wordinfo.info/
     
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    Johnny-C said 'no', and I concur. I do not have a negative reaction to the sight (or thought) of heterosexual sex. More like I'm indifferent.
     
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    Anal sex, because they can't afford any other method of birth control. Also, their backward hospitals don't bother to clean needles after every injection.
     
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    Well, maybe I guess. I think the idea of anybody having public sex would be somewhat repulsive. We aren't baboons, after all.
     
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    See, I'm not buying that. It certainly isn't quite so present in women, given the sheer amount of Yaoi-fans, and it also only applies to male homosexuality, given how prominent lesbian porn is. Could you provide a citation that most heterosexual men have an instinctual distaste for homosexuality? Because from my experience, the "it's trained into us" explanation makes a whole lot more sense.
     
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    who you personally know is irrelevant. the majority of AIDS cases worldwide are among heterosexuals.
     
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    You are correct.
     
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    20 years ago, it was a crisis in the USA, the disease was going to kill 1-5, it was easy to spread Heterosexually, Billions of dollars were spent, 100's of organizations appeared, celebrities cried the warning.

    Then nothing happened, it was all lies.

    Today the same people claim the disease is destroying Africa, but only Africa. Its not spreading outside of Africa, it miraculously stays within the borders of Africa. Somehow in the third world, where politicians are dictators, tyrants, and mostly corrupt AIDS is on a rampage. In a place where starvation is real, and when food is given by the Red Cross it all falls into the hands of the corrupt hardly reaching the people. Of course that was mostly in the past, solved that problem. Now its AIDS.

    Based on my experience in life, there sure are a lot of liars taking my money any way they can.

    Only in Africa, how odd.
     
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    Well... I can relate to being a skeptic, but I do afford science (overall) a lot more credibility than my feelings and opinions. (Not always easy to do... but something I've found to be most prudent.)
     
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    Sure, so do I, but science has nothing to do with this, not at all. I did a lot of searching, been following the stories for years, its not that it does not add up, its simply B.S..

    Your naive if you think the Nigeria "put a check in my account" scam is the only scam coming out of Africa
     
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    this is incoherant drivel, having nothing at all to do with my post.
     
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    so you think aids is some conspiracy created by the gays? and that they've managed to infilatrate the world health oraganization, the CDC and every other health organization in the US and abroad?

    really?
     
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    So is the incest taboo. So being "trained into us" may be a healthy thing originated when people became aware of the consequences of allowing such behavior.
     
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    Don't scientists themselves have feelings and opinions? They get a lot of unearned prestige by creating this myth that they are objective disembodied minds that only follow where the data force them to go. Couldn't they be escapist social rejects who are driven by a desire to be comic-book superheroes? LIke the Wizard of Oz, don't they take advantage of the bells and whistles proclaiming them to be smarter than everybody else? Aren't a lot of scientists just B students jealous of the A students who actually create products rather than make judgments condemning normal morality?
     
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    Challenge these people to link to the Scientists and I find that they link to articles, if their is a Scientist they are actually a researcher interpreting another person's work.

    If a Liberal says its scientific, challenge them, follow the link, it is always an article, always.
     

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