Why are there jobs Americans won't do?

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  1. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    This seems to be a recurring issue in political discussions about labor. Some say there is already a shortage of workers. Most agree there will be.

    But why are there jobs Americans won't do? I think the answer is pretty simple: there are too many ways for people in the US to stay home, sit on their ass, and collect government goodies at he expense of others. Are you poor? No problem, we have food stamps for you! Unemployed? No problem, we have 99 weeks of unemployment. Don't like to work much? No problem, we have Section 8 housing for you.

    Sadly, some government cheese can be collected indefinitely, creating a total loser of a person who was probably already just a marginal human being to begin with.

    Solving the problem is easy. Need food stamps? No problem, here's 3 months' worth. Hope you get your (*)(*)(*)(*) together soon so you don't starve. Unemployed? Here's 3 months of unemployment. After that, you'll be shipped off to the nearest lettuce or strawberry field to pick fruit. Hope you like your new career, loser.

    My good friends (and liberals, too), America is broke. We simply cannot afford to keep paying able-bodied losers to sit around on my dime. And yes, it's my dime. I pay well into five figures of federal income tax each year, along with all the other hidden taxes that most liberals think "someone else" is paying.

    Ultimately, we as individuals are paying for all this nonsense. I say it's time to put losers on notice. Get your (*)(*)(*)(*) together quick, we're tired of promoting your lifestyle of laziness and demanding others provide for you.

    What do you think?
     
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    Burz New Member

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    If Americans were made to do certain jobs they would demand reform.
     
  3. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    BINGO. Along with that, I would add if all Americans were made to pay federal income tax, they would also demand reform. It's easy to not give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what government does when one is on the dole and not paying into the system. Under either and/or both of those circumstances, there's little reason to care. That's why Obama goons are out recruiting people to go on food stamps.

    Funny how liberal success depends on more people being losers.
     
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    Sort of like, if we cut off school lunches....kids would learn to forage for their own food?
     
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    It has to do with giving up all your time, work and effort weeks at a time for just enough cash to Ramen noodles twice a week. Often, it's not worth the effort. You get what you pay for, and most employers today don't want to pay a decent wage in exchange for reasonable hours. They normally want the world. All your free time, to be available for any shift and any day or holiday, work you azz off and tell them "thank you". All for Ramen noodle pay. Smart people give that kind of BS the middle finger. Suckers surrender their lives for pennies.
     
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    No, nothing like that at all. You're trying to equate adults with children. Huge FAIL.

    Furthermore, we should in fact eliminate school lunches. However, you seem to forget an important detail. Children have PARENTS whose responsibility it is to feed them.

    I certainly hope you can do better than this. Perhaps it's time to refill that coffee cup? :)

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    If it's not worth one's effort to provide for themselves, then I'm fine with that person deciding to simply starve to death. If they don't care enough about themselves to produce enough to exist, I can't imagine any reason why I should care.
     
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    I'm good with sitting on my azz if the only offerings available are Ramen noodle pennies. My time is more valuable than that.
     
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    I would never do that job because I have a degree.... but it amazes me that highschool dropouts say "that job is beneath me" when it comes to fast food, cleaning hotels, etc. My ex-wife did that. High school dropout, but refused to work certain jobs. Even was upset at me because I liked my job and despite working up to 80 hours for a couple of months, said "that doesn't count since you like your job" Bish, I worked hard to get a job I like. Just because you got knocked up at 15 (not by me) wasn't anyone's fault but yours and deadbeat daddy's

    what the refusal to doing with jobs is why work a hard job like picking lettuce/tomatoes in the hot sun, when you can collect MORE on welfare and do nothing. What you have is employers that don't have to pay a fair wage because they target a demographic that is illegal and can't complain or get anything better. So long as the risk to employers is less than the rewards they get by doing illegal acts, they will continue to refuse to pay a fair wage. And since welfare earns more than working 12 hours, Americans will refuse to work those, leaving only the illegals who arent allowed to complain really.

    Vicious circle.

    cut off welfare, and you'll see exactly what people are willing to do and what jobs they will work when they are hungry, or have nowhere to live.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    So fat cats can get back to exploiting regular American versus illegals? EVERYBODY should take a week off and crush the economy. People that work for nothing deserve nothing.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not think we should cut out feeding kids but the parents should pay for it, my school did not have a hot lunch program and carrying a sandwich and an apple was just fine.

    if people do not want to work let them eat mud like really poor people in Africa do . How much is your time worth if you got nothing?
     
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    kinda, but what I'm saying is the punishment for a business to operate illegally is not severe enough.


    1. pay illegal wage = more profit
    2. continue indefinately
    3. get caught - pay fine out of profit that is less than the total profit they have already made.
    4. repeat process

    if businesses were forced to pay fair market value, Americans would work it. So they wouldn't be exploiting Americans instead of illegals. The only reason Illegals agree to the below fair value prices is because it's still more than they could make back home.
     
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    I'd rather eat mud before working for free (which is effectively what the fat cat corporate employer ultimately wants). You want my time? Pay me for it, or shove it. You pay nothing...you get nothing. I think that's fair.
     
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    Well, I agree on all points. So long as there are people that are willing to work for sheet, the greedy pigs will keep expecting people to work for sheet.
     
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    we common folk pretty much start at the bottom but it you want you can develope skills that pay , All I had was a GED and 9 years in the army , got me the house and truck and put a kids through college , it can be done but you get little free time but it worked for me !
     
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    Most people "want to work" at something or in some fashion. Most food stamps go to people who have jobs.
    I can't say I'm going to give the thumbs up to the philosophy of shooting people in exchange for humane living conditions.
     
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    I'd be happy advocating that NOBODY work until such a time that a living wage be the standard with time to have a life outside work as well. Problem is people accept being shafted quite regularly. Garbage in...garbage out. Stop working and tell the tycoons to take their jobs and shove them in large masses would get their attention. Soon as their mega profit stops flowing, I'd bet they would suddenly be willing to treat people like human beings again. Instead people bend over and take it, which keeps the fat cats happy and fat.
     
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    Sit away! As long as it's on your dime, I couldn't care less. It's (still) a free country, relatively speaking.

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    Agreed, most people want to work. As with anything, it's a small group of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s that (*)(*)(*)(*) it up for everyone else. That said, the group of losers is growing larger, and more people are being conditioned to take from others as a lifestyle.
     
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    Amen brother. I started as a partying fool in the 80s who didn't care much about anything. Slowly I figured things out and am now right behind you, with two kids currently in college. If I can do it, I don't see why most anyone else can.

    Of course, there is a very small percentage of people who are truly in need. I have no problem with temporary help for them, or even longer for people truly incapable (NOT losers who simply got used to free stuff at our expense).

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    Complete BS. Nobody pays nothing. Slavery went out the door over 150 years ago. Man up and face reality. Oh and as far as the value of your time? I'll tell you what it's worth. It's worth what the highest bidder is willing to pay for it.
     
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    All excellent points, especially on employers, the vicious cycle, etc.. And the only work that is beneath anyone is that job "below" the one a person can actually get. I rode a bicycle at 2 am delivering newspapers when my wife was pregnant and in school. A normal person does what is necessary. The loser pisses and moans.
     
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    "Why are there jobs Americans won't do? "

    there is no Job Americans wont do if payed enough to do the job
     
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    What do you do for a living that you pay 5 figures in taxes?
     
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    None of your business. However, the fact that surprises you says a lot more about you than it does about me.
     
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    Yes I suppose a loser would want a certain amount to make sitting on theid ass getting free money not as attractive as actually earning their money like the rest of us. Take away the free stuff and that figure is in free fall
     
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    With the cost of living being what it is, and the bulk of corporate employers (the bidders) are willing to pay their minions and the mega profit the fat cats demand, NOT working is the better alternative to encouraging corporate creeps to keep taking more and more, demanding more and more, while providing less and less. It IS ultimately NOTHING and may as well be slavery when a corporate tycoon can outsource your job at any time (and probably will eventually regardless of your profession) somewhere for a 40 dollar a month salary overseas, while THEY sip champagne on one of their yachts. People need to rise up and demand decency and humanity or mega profit for the very few.

    My time is MINE. If you think it isn't worth much, then don't expect too much for your pennies you sparingly pass out of your pocket change. Pay or go away. Take your sheet job and shove it. The Mitt Romneys of the world can suck my appendage and rot in Hell.
     
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    CEO's do it everyday bro. Why shouldn't everybody sit on their azzes and take for the sake of taking? At least you're not helping make corporate dicks fatter on your labor or time.
     

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