gay marriage and the bible's word

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  1. phil1956

    phil1956 New Member

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    As far as i am concerned gay marriage in a christian society is nnot happenning.
    Why did the Angel of death destroy Sodom and Gommorrah or did the people who are for this bond not understand or ignore this messsge in the BIBLE.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Yet gay marriage is happening.

    Why do people ignore the Bible?

    Because it makes absolutely no sense, and doesn't say anything about the government denying citizens basic human rights.
     
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    This probably wasn't the best way to introduce yourself.
     
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    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    Define for us what constitutes a "Christian society". If we're talking about the USA, it is majority "Christian", but beliefs and practices vary widely within that majority. And the minority who are not Christian still have rights, whether Christians like it or not.

    As for the Bible gobbledy-gook, it's not a matter of not understanding or ignoring. It's a matter of not believing and refusing to be ruled by the beliefs of others in out own conscience.
     
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    Jesus condemned divorce.

    Where is your outrage about divorce?

    I find the religious outrage about homosexuality odd, since Jesus never even mentions it. To listen to some conservatives you would think that Jesus went around telling everyone "Beware the Queer"- but who did Jesus condemn? Adulterers- of any kind- and those who would divorce their wives and remarry- because that would be adultery.
     
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    dude, marriage is a crock regardless of gender anyways. divorce rate is sixty percent not includin the numbers from the same-sex side. it's sad and it sucks, but it's a crock. that particular traditional value doesn't really exist happily as it use to... if it ever really did. why you think they invented the prenupt.?
     
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    As an atheist, I don't really follow anything the bible says, but even by a bible-based standard, homophobia is simply a 'holy' way of oppressing others. Please, the bible isn't god's word, and even if it was, I wouldn't be worshipping such a morally messed up god as yours.
     
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    An interesting way to introduce yourself.

    Anyway, are you sure you want to base your argument against gay marriage on an old religious legend?
     
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    As long as we don't have adultery laws trying to tell us we must be married, I know I won't be worrying about how outdated marriage is. People are free to date and relate without tying the knot, social and familial expectations aside.
     
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    You sound like you got no idea man
    The bible still holds true to this day
    I have not seen any text rescinding what the word says.
    When Jesus comes back you will be in the river of fire like all the gays and people who do not believe
     
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    thebrucebeat Banned

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    Many scholars believe it was destroyed because of the lack of welcoming to strangers, and not homosexuality. Either way, lot offering his virgin daughters to the mob for their sexual fun is then what you are defending. Is that where you stand?

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    Oh no.
    What will happen to the gays that DO believe?
    Oh, snap!
     
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    The Bible is pretty clear on why they were destroyed, i.e., they were having unnatural sex with everything that moved. The Bible's pretty clear on sex being a man and woman thing, within a faithful marriage.
     
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    Refusing to alter the definition of marriage isn't denying anyone a right to marry. Gays are free to marry, but since they're not attracted to members of the opposite sex, they have typically avoided it. That's their choice. No rights denied.
     
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    "Gays" that come to believe would immediately recognize their former life of sin as wrong and make every effort to turn away from it.
     
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    James 2:19

    English Standard Version (ESV)


    19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
     
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    You miss what the Bible DOES say.

    Scripture warns that a society that the whole nation will be destroyed by invasion or the rise of a dictator when that country becomes so hedonistic that gayness, "out in public," is tolerated when the feminist social forces repress the instinctual male homophobia.
    When the gays appear openly, it signals the full empowerment of the women, who then can force straight men to shut up.

    Matriarchies never last longer than a generation or two thereafter.
     
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    Are you equating gays with demons?

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    We all know you are a viral mysoginist.
    We don't require any more data on that point.
     
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    Is it simply enought to believe?
     
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    thebrucebeat Banned

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    Let's see.
    Which "sola" would that be?
     
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    "Faith alone saves, but the faith that saves is never alone." - John Calvin
     
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    That's why they join the church!
     
  22. elijah

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    yep, possibly. Theres all kind of different motives for why people join churches.
     
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    attempted gang rape of angels?

    but America is not a Christian society its a secular one where people can be just about any faith they want or none and the story's for any of those faiths are not a basis for law

    maybe your not talking about the united states but I don't know of any Christian states other then maybe the Vatican
     
  24. phil1956

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    If you would take your head out of that dark place you call a "Butt"
    That type of comment " gang rape of angels" as far as i am concerned is blasphemy.
    Do you know what that is.
    Modern society as far as the Bible is concerned revolves around the Bible
    :evil:
     
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    mmmm.....I didn't say that...........
     

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