gay marriage and the bible's word

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  1. phil1956

    phil1956 New Member

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    Marriage is sacred bond between man and woman.
    Allowing gays to get married is degrading that sacred bond.
    Anyway gays getting married in a christian church is not happenning in any part of the world.
    And marriage under any other circumstances is not even marriage it is only a coming together of 2 people as partners.
    And is not sacred as being married in a church
     
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    19 And there came two angels to Sodom at evening, and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom. And Lot, seeing them, rose up to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

    2 and he said, “Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant’s house and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early and go on your ways.” And they said, “Nay, but we will remain in the street all night.”

    3 And he pressed upon them greatly, and they turned in unto him and entered into his house; and he made them a feast and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.

    4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom — both young and old, all the people from every quarter —compassed the house around.

    5 And they called unto Lot and said unto him, “Where are the men who came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them.”

    6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him

    7 and said, “I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

    8 Behold now, I have two daughters who have not known a man. Let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes. Only unto these men do nothing, for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.”


    ya attempted gang rape of angels is bad seems to be a lesson from the bible

    modern society is what people have been making of it since before the bible and long after. the bible has had its influence but we are not a theocracy
     
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    "Attempted" not much difference there
     
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    he is new might have been tying to quote me

    u want to hit the reply with quote button that's right under what you read Phil

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    you asked why they got destroyed in the bible story that's my best explanation going from the bible
     
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    phil1956 New Member

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    Yuo believe what you want
    It does not sound like a quote from the Bible
    Even if they tried to do it the angels would have struck them down.
    That is the justice that awaits all gays
     
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    and your free to make whatever sacred bonds you want u can even call it marriage though you can have sacred gay marriage if you like as well

    but we also have legal marriage and not letting couples get legally married because of religious opinion is not legal
     
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    I do not care if people like my posts
    I am commenting in a free society
    Nowhere does it say you have to please other people who are on the forum
    If people do not want to reply so be it
     
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    yes they did they struck the crowd blind in the story then lot left before the smiting rely got started his wife looked back after being told not to got turned to salt then lots daughters he offered to the mob got him drunk and raped him to have kids because they believed they were the last people on earth

    hole thing sounds like a fairy tale to me
     
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    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    What does the buybull have to do with the laws in secular America?
     
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    Thank you someone who understands.
    Society today is sick and if God see's too much rubbish Jesus will be coming with a sword sooner than later.

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    Neanderthal
    God Makes the laws and Obama is only there because God put him there.
     
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    Crap Marriage outside the church is not marriage
    One hundred years ago hey never had marriage celebants
     
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    yes we know what's your point? were you replying to some one? if so please quote them next time so the rest of us know what's going on if you need help with how to do that just ask

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    why should any one believe that's the case?
     
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    Sorry if i offended anyone.
    Dont care if i offend the gays.
     
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    well marriage out of a church may not be a sacred covenant between a man a woman and a god to you but it can be just as sacred to some one else your opinion is not special

    and marriage in a church alone is not legally binding in this nation because its done in a church u need to get the sate involved at some point
     
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    Thanks Ed You understand
     
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    Neanderthal
    What is Secular Please explain
     
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    Your not telling me something i do not know
    But you still do not understand do you.
    You can comment all you like
    People can believe what they want and obviously you believe what you believe
     
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    Since I'm the one who used the word "secular", I assume you're talking to me. Please use the "Reply with Quote" button, on the lower right of a post you want to address, so that the person you're talking to will get a notification.

    As to your question, we live in a secular country. Secular means religion is not in charge, and we don't use religion to make the rules. What your holy book has to say about gay marriage is of zero consequence. It does not matter. It may as well not exist, from a legal perspective.
     
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    who are you talking to?
     
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    or they would believe that bits of the bible bashing homosexuality are man made bull (*)(*)(*)(*) or they would believe that acting on homosexual urges is wrong but understand that they don't control if they like men or women just like we do
     
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    just like not letting blacks and whites marry was not denying marriage to black or white people because they could still marry some one else

    except that definition of marriage contained legal discrimination that had no reason for existing and that denied the right of interracial couples to have = protection under the law and was changed to protect the right of more people

    same thing with gay marriage
     
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    Then they would question scripture, and then at that point why not just question the whole christian thing, and then after that we'll just be agnostic, right?

    Then wheres that belief?
     
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    belief is more flexible then that for better or worse its not impossible to believe only part of a story
     
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    I don't agree, I believe that once you start saying that part of a document is in error, whats to say that the rest of its not?
     
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    Abraham spent his life banging his half-sister so I suppose that classifies as a legitimate marriage but he wasn't faithful. And Mary was getting laid by some ghostly thing so she wasn't faithful either. The characters in the Bible had the morals of cats.
     

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