Chemtrails exist everywhere

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  1. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    But it has to do with chemtrails, right? Depending on the definition you use, a chemtrail doesn't have to be at high altitude.
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  2. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah, your dog is barking up the wrong tree on that one.
    First. I don't believe anything this government tells me. That holds ten fold for this administration. From the time this planet was formed and an atmosphere was created mother earth has belched gases into the atmosphere. Life, both vegetable and animal belch gases 24/7 just as the machine we have created. Somehow we managed to get this far without someone trying to change our weather or the air we breathe.
    It just so happens that since Nixon created the EPA in 1976 the quality of air in America has never been better. Chemical importation controlled, disposal, GMP introduced. That's not to mention all those International Standard Organization requirements used by manufacturers today. I'm not a tree hugger by any means. I believe in standards that should be followed. However the standards should not be draconian or so strict that basic services become unavailable or priced out of sight.
     
  3. RtWngaFraud

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    Then by default, you should believe chemtrails exist simply because it is "officially" denied that it exists? Additionally, by default, you must believe 9/11 WAS an inside job, since they also "officially" denied anything like this occurred.

    You accept what's "comfortable" for you to want to believe. Be honest. Considering the implications of either scenario makes you "uncomfortable" and you don't WANT to believe such a thing. It has nothing to do with what you actually perceive to be "possible" and more to do with "I'm not comfortable with that option". Honesty is always the best policy sir.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I think the cat has his tongue. Glad you agree.
     
  5. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you refer to is exhaust from Jet planes as "Chemical Trails" . How do you know what makes me comfortable or uncomfortable. You know Jack S**t about me.
    From your timber, you know very little to nothing about Chemistry or the EPA in general other than the B.S, you've been fed in pamphlets by your Progressive friends.
    Why don't you check on the ISO for Jet exhaust. While you're at it check the ISO for Jet engines and JP 4,5, and 8. After you do that you can come back and begin discussing cogently your gripe about Chemical trails.

    Here's two questions for you:
    1. What is TSCA.
    2. What is 40 CFR Part 82
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Chemtrails exist dude. You can play science professor all you like. Doesn't change anything. What is the stuff in this video huh? Got any explanation?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_nkKFXCGE
     
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    The only thing out of the ordinary is the fact that some of the aircraft turn back the way they came from. Looks to me like pilot training. They like to do that sort of thing over sparsely-populated areas.

    I guess the idiot who put the video together thinks of the sky as being all the same temperature from one spot to another. It isn't, and he is a moron. Temperature usually decreases with altitude, and only planes flying above a certain level, where the temperature is significantly below freezing, will leave a con trail. Problem for dimwits like the video maker is that the layers of different temperatures are not laid out in nice neat flat planes. They can ripple like the surface of a lake. Thus, flying perfectly level an aircraft may intersect ridges of low remperature, then break out again into an area of higher temperature a could miles down the way, leaving a con trail only in the cold ridges of air. This is what causes those on/off switches that make the CTers dance and shriek like a bunch of monkeys who just saw one of their own dragged of by a cheeta.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is questioning the fact that Con Trails by jet aircraft in the high atmosphere happen. Avoiding questions related to your knowledge of the environment and the EPA is the cowards way out.

    See:
    Aircraft Contrails Factsheet


    nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPURL.cgi?Dockey=00000LVU.txt

    United States Environmental Protection Agency Air and Radiation (6205J) EPA430-F-00-005 September 2000 www.epa.gov Contrails Factsheet Summary ...
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory
    Hmm.., Rtwngafraud was also a 'truther', in a former life when that became disproven he switched to this one. There may be a sanity issue at hand here.
     
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    You are attempting to talk science and facts to the 'faithful'.
     
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    Once more...CONTRAILS dissipate. CHEMTRAILS do NOT dissipate. Seriously dude, I see this stuff every day of every year for the past 3 or 4 years, and I know that what I'm seeing AIN'T contrails. If you dig being ignorant then, so be it, but please don't tell me what Isee or what exists or doesn't exist, because, you are clearly either very misinformed or completely uniformed, and apparently aren't capable of scrutinizing the obvious. The facts are all over and easy to find. Why you choose to deny it means either an agenda or completely ignorant. Do some research and educate yourself, would ya?

    Oh, and please spare me the "official" documents advocating the government's position of them "not existent". Geezus, the number of government employees must be at an all time high these days. People can't possibly be this ignorant on their own.
     
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    So is Obama trying to poison us?
     
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    Cow cookies. What you are calling "chemtrails" are actually ordinary contrails. At high enough altitudes, where the air is cold enough to freeze them right away, they form i9ce crystals. In this, they exactly match the composition of cirrus clouds, which are found at the same altitudes, and do not disperse. You could not possibly be more wrong without deliberately lying.

    And you base this on what sort of training or education? If you dig being ignorant then, so be it, but please don't tell me what Isee or what exists or doesn't exist, because, you are clearly either very misinformed or completely uniformed, and apparently aren't capable of scrutinizing the obvious. The facts are all over and easy to find. Why you choose to deny it means either an agenda or completely ignorant. Do some research and educate yourself, would ya?
     
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    This is the biggest claim that the "chemtrailers" get wrong. Contrails may persist in the sky for hours, and they have done so since the inventions of jets. Various photographs, newspaper clippings and scientific articles from and before the 1970's are good evidence that this is true.
     
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    Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen... tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?

    General Jack D. Ripper: [somewhat embarassed] Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.

    Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.

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    Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.

    General Jack D. Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.

    Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No.

    General Jack D. Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence.
     
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    No, you don't know. You think you know because you've read some books by equally paranoid conspiriacs. How many people do you think it would take to be involved in a conspiracy this massive, and why has nobody either broken the silence, named names or produced tangible evidence to support this idiocy? And yet you "know"...?
    Furthermore how many times do you have to be told that contrails remain or dissipate according to the atmospheric vagaries extant at the time they form? If it's windy they disperse more quickly than if the air is relatively calm. What does a smoking chimney look like on a calm day as opposed to a windy one? Jeez this is stuff my 6-year old grandson could understand but you, an adult, are convinced we're being sprayed with Barium. Why are we being sprayed with Barium? Who gains, and how? And where are all the medical reports of excessive Barium in our systems?
     
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    Here are some from WW2 http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=WW...w=162&start=0&ndsp=10&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:88
    And the earliest known account, from 1919 http://contrailscience.com/pre-wwii-contrails/
     
  19. Wehrwolfen

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    I can only say that the plot you've been writing about must be a Progressive Leftist plot directed by the White House to destroy America and Americans. If so, were you right to elect and then re-elect the person poisoning you? Hmm...the conspiracy deepens, where are my waders?
     
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    Funny thing is, you can't prove your assertions.

    Or maybe you can provide some proof this time around?
     
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    Well...great propaganda (and WRONG).
    I'm curious. What's your agenda with this issue? You dismiss any possibility of something the military has been trying to achieve since the mid sixties so, you must have some agenda, no?
     
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    And there it is again...Standard Conspiracy Theorist Protocol # 1-

    You don't believe or dismiss the conspiracy....you're "in on it too".
     
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    Oh..gimme a break with this "too many people would have to" blah, blah, blah nonsense. Compartmentalization allows it to occur by default. Nobody is ever accountable to anything because the original offenders are so far removed and the objective has been so "clouded" (no pun intended) that nobody really wants to know what's going on. They just "follow orders", so to speak. The dumbed down general public is so beaten down with BS everyday and busy chasing their tails, they accept anything. Weather manipulation is well documented in many places. That idea that it doesn't exist is ludicrous. Geezus man. Look up in the sky once in a while. If that's too much effort, google the subject. There's a multitude of information that can be had in 5 minutes of your time and in 5 more minutes an intelligent person can easily ascertain if there may or may not be any truth to the subject. Only the completely ignorant, uninformed, misinformed or otherwise compromised go to such lengths as to insist the obvious cannot possibly be true.
     
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    Another gov pub huh? I guess if they say it doesn't exist then, it must not exist. People HAVE done research and I CHOOSE to believe their data as opposed to propaganda.
     
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    My aggenda is to help prevent a revolution based on an idiotic and false premise that will provide the Organization with a few thousand shrieking monkeys fighting along side them in the RaHoWa.

    Every new conspiracy theory provides the Organization with a pool of useful idiots with whom they can play their nasty silly game.

    Read The Turner Diaries. You lot are walking right into that trap.
     

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