Sheriff Joe Arpaio Has Found The Forger Of Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

OK, here is your second reading lesson for the day. Do you understand what "Yes, I am aware of that" means? While I understand you refuse to acknowledge your error, you are not going to get away with changing the subject with yet another unfounded personal attack on me that has been preemptively proven false.

Are we clear on that?

 

what's clear is that you want to discuss a looney fantasy, instead of reality

 

Well it is obvious that is what a law enforcement officer would do.

 

It would have been an interesting question.

However it has been dealt with before- we had a VP who was born in a territory, not in a state, if I remember correctly. And no one questioned that Goldwater could run even though he was born in Arizona Territory.

 

great! nothing like giving them original ideas.

 

Good point. In fact, wouldn't John McCain... nah, I believe he was born into a military family while on overseas deployment. I suspect it wouldn't preclude a presidential run.

 

the Globe? isn't that the same check out line rag that tells us space aliens live in our midst?

 

Your concession is noted. I will let SFJEFF know you do not approve of him and I discussing this hypothetical situation. I am quite certain it will carry as much weight with him as it has with me.

Have a nice day.

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Eh, about as credible as PMSNBC or CNN is these days.

 

Who is Lt. Zullo?

 

Good question- I thought it was Kommandant Zullo?

 

i made no concession

your comment is just another example of one of your fantasies

he can give you history lessons all he wants, especially considering how he destroyed your time fantasy with reality

yea, like your fantasies in a balloon filled with lead

 

How is it that the President is Black (Momma be Caucasian?) and Zimmerman is white (Momma be Hispanic?), another earthly mystery or do Daddy exclusively define da child's DNA?

 

Dude, you are hilarious. Here, feel free to have the last word. I know you so desperately need it for some reason. But hey, just read a little better before you attack me next time, it'll save you a ton of desperate spinning afterwards- though I must admit it's been fun watching you shuck and jive once again.

I am done with this thread! Have a good one!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

How do you think obama sealed his records? Can you explain how he sealed them, and how nobody elses are sealed?

 

You are probably correct, because judging from past judicial hostility and total intolerance to the admissibility of any evidence that suggests Obama's birth recording in Hawaii was a fraud, it is surely impossible for anyone to get an honest, full, unimpeded, unobstructed "day in court".

That said, I don't care whether Arpaio and company are able to storm their way into a U. S. courtroom or not. I'd be satisfied to see them stand out on a street corner, in broad daylight, with a handful of people recording their presentation with smartphones (since none of the "news" media will ever touch such a topic, including Fox News). I just want them to put everything they've got out there, in full public view, with nothing held back, and quit dancing around the topic -- and no "mysterious" bull**** about it. It's time to **** or get off the pot!

 

i read it perfectly well and i attacked your fantasies, not you

there's no spin/desperation in any of my comments

just the opposite of that

 

We know that is not going to happen- don't we?

There will be another press conference- without any tangle or explicit information- probably more promises of dire and alarming announcements in the future......and lots and lots of BS

 

Alternative hypothesis: the "evidence" the birthers have is so pathetically non-existent that it gets laughed out of pretty much every court in the country. Personally, I think the explanation that involves the tiny fringe group with a crazy idea having bad evidence is a little more realistic than the explanation that involves the entire US justice system being involved in one big fat coverup. This is supplanted by the knowledge that most of the country, having looked at that evidence, shook their heads and said, "guys, I'm sorry, you have nothing".

 

I don't know why they press on. If all the birther claims were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, progressives would respond with "so what?"

 

That's exactly why I want to see this whole and entire thing come to a head now! Either they've GOT something, or they DON'T! And if all it amounts to, as you say, is a "tiny fringe group with a crazy idea having bad evidence" -- then exactly what have Comrade Obama's loyal Praetorian Guard got to fear...? Nothing, right? And then the "birthers", starring Arpaio, his "Cold Case Posse", Orly Taitz, Philip Berg, et al, will get to have one big swan song, after which everybody can just stand back and hurl **** at them happily ever after...right...?

I just don't see where the downside is for Obama's Praetorian Guard for these people to have a full and complete opportunity to present their material (if they EVER would). And, hey, if I were in your place, I'd be doing everything I could to draw the "birthers" out, not to bury them with silly, shallow curses and invective, trying to make them shut up, and howling like a pack of hyenas when they are thrown out of every court in the country before they even get a CHANCE to make fools of themselves by presenting their cases without interference, manipulation, or preemption.... Go ahead and draw them out! Let them put themselves on full display! Let them show everything they've got -- and then if that is nothing, then let them twist slowly in the wind when they are castigated by everyone, including other frustrated, maddened "birthers"....

 

none of them have been proven, not one

 

Is your grasp of the English language truly that bad? Saying "had he been" is not a statement of fact. Its not even a hypothesis. Jesus dude this is truly desperate even for you.

 

It's the "one drop" rule.

Originally in America children took the race of their fathers. But the white slave owners were having too many kids by black women, making the kids whites. That caused all kinds of legal and economic problems. Then they changed it so that kids took the race of their mothers. The problem was that white women were having kids by black men. That made their kids whites. So they gave up on that as well as said that if a person had just one drop of black blood in him then he was a black person. The problem was that people who appeared to be completely white had to move out of their home towns in order to live as whites because their neighbors considered them to black. http://www.flickr.com/photos/vieilles_annonces/5822861665/

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(April, 1911)

 

Here's what you don't get - it has come to a head. We have had the court battles. Arpaio, Taitz, etc. have had their big swan song. The birthers have had their claims tested, and their claims have come up short.

I don't think you get it. The people stopping them aren't with the Obama administration. They're with the lower courts. In fact, Taitz was fined $20,000 by the lower courts when she brought it up earlier, because that was how flimsy her case was. I don't know why this so hard to understand: Taitz and co. don't get their big day in court because the supreme court doesn't have to deal with every insane nutter making an idiotic claim with little to no evidence. They've had every opportunity to present their material, and every tim there's something new, it takes the investigative reporting of a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing chimp to figure out that it's full of (*)(*)(*)(*).

But what's the point if people like you will never accept that? The birther debate is over. It has been over for quite a long time now. Most people understand that. But we're not dealing with normal people. We're dealing with true believers. What do you expect the birther reaction to be if, hypothetically, their case makes it to the supreme court, and then either gets dismissed for the same reason it's been tossed aside by the lower courts, or they lose the case 0-9? What do you expect the birthers will do? Will they say, "Well, okay, we've been incredibly wrong for 5 years in a stupid, possibly racist manner, and while everyone has been telling us this, what really matters is the supreme court's opinion"? Or will they go back to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about how it wasn't a fair trial, or how the judges were in Obama's back pocket? My money would be on the latter in an instant. You know how I know? Because the supreme court already rejected it, and yet somehow, a year later, here we are.

Again, I am willing to bet anyone any amount of money that by any reasonable standard, this "forger" turns out to be bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I am completely serious. If you're interested, PM me.

 

Birthers remind me of the end-of-the-world cretins who keep following one crackpot or another who proclaim the end of the world on a certain day while they fleece the rubes for all their material possessions as they wait.
Even when the day comes and goes, they keep insisting that it's just a slight calendar error in their calculations and the idiots keep falling for it.
Some idiots even prefer to eat poison and die rather than face their failed belief.
Such weak-minded people are all cut from the same cloth and deserve our pity. They are not equipped to deal with reality, mentally or emotionally.
I think that Obamacare should include treatment for birtherism along with other mental disorders.