Sheriff Joe Arpaio Has Found The Forger Of Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

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  1. Stagnant

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    Okay, let's have a little exercise. For each of those things on that list (save for conflicting reports on birth records, which I would appreciate a citation for), provide them for the previous presidents or presidential candidates. Let's see how far back you can go? Hell, let's see if you can manage Mitt Romney and George W. Bush without tripping up. What's more, "early childhood"? Okay, how much relevancy do you think that legitimately has? Schooling records? Beyond college (which was released), why do you think it matters? I also think it's important to point out that Obama was the only president in recent history subjected to this degree of scrutiny. Take from that what you will. I'll still bet any birther any amount of money that no higher court will hear a birther case, and that no lower court will rule against Obama.

    I'm scared to death that there's a possibility Obama isn't a natural born citizen in the same way I'm scared to death that a terrorist is going to blow up the subway next time I step on it - I'm not, because I have this way of stripping irrational, dumb, pointless fears from me. Up to this point, all the evidence of him not being a citizen has gone up in smoke, and the evidence documenting his citizenship is absolutely overwhelming.
     
  2. dujac

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    i have a feeling he'll just ignore the truth, like he usually does

    your jokes make me laugh

    what anger? i find this stuff even more amusing than arte johnson in 1969

    oh i imagine they'll release something, it'll just be rehashed bs trotted out from a slightly different angle

    i was thinking more along the lines of glenn beck

    [video=youtube;LiEpSggvZFU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiEpSggvZFU[/video]
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    So says Mike Zullo.

    Who to believe- Mike Zullo- a man who started his 'investigation' by signing a book deal with a Birther- or the Republican Director of Health of Hawaii?

    Who has more credibility..........such a tough call....
     
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    Translation: Senator Obama became the first Presidential candidate in history to show the public his birth certificate- and did so 5 months before the election.

    President Obama displayed the birth certificate that was issued by the State of Hawaii upon his request in 2007, in the only format that the State of Hawaii uses now except upon special request and approval by the Director of Health.

    The State of Hawaii confirmed all of this repeatedly, and Birthers still refuse to believe it.
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    Frankly anyone who says that they know nothing about President Obama is either lying or is willfully ignorant.

    All of the information is out there.

    Other than one specific bit of information leaked about President Bush- his Yale grades- we know more about Barack Obama's background than any other President.

    Tell me what you feel you need to know about Barack Obama's background- and show me where you knew that for Bush or Clinton?

    I know the kindergarten where Obama went- I have heard interviews with his kindergarten teachers. I have read interviews with his classmates and teachers from elementary school through grad school.

    If you think you know nothing about Barack Obama, then you really just don't want to know anything about him.
     
  6. Dutch

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    Did you believe Director of CIA under oath at Congressional hearing? Did you also believe IRS chair under oath at Congressional hearing? Do you believe all Government officials when they beat themselves in the chest? Ha ha ha :roflol:
     
  7. Marine1

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    This was another part of the problem. Obama campaigned on how he will have the most open administration of any. Then as soon as elected President, he sealed all his records. When asked if reporters could talk to his doctor when he refused to allow his medical records public as McCain did, he said no. He caused most of his own problems with Birthers.
     
  8. Dutch

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    I know he attended Indonesian publik skrul, and was registered there as Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen and a muslim... that's about all I know with any degree of certainty :)
     
  9. Karma Mechanic

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    Okay you lied enough, I know you are just a child but I am tired of this.

    The COLB stated without question he was born in Hawaii and unless someone had real evidence to the contrary it could be used for any legal purpose and it said so right there on the front of it.
    Many media outlets examined it and it had the Seal of the State on it.

    The Executive order was to seal the documents generated while in office. You have been told that, you are simply lying again. This was one of several orders and a common one since President REagan I believe.

    The President of the United States can't simply seal all his records with an Executive Order. That is just stupid.
     
  10. Hafez

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    Blah blah blah bush this bush that. My statement goes for ANY president, not just your onerous tool in command, or the psychopathic idiot before him.

    BTW : tell me his grades at columbia or harvard? what about theses he wrote? you can't because you don't know. And your only response is " Well, you didn't know that about bush..." who the hell cares?? one wrong does not make another wrong right.
     
  11. Dutch

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    Can the President of the United States refuse to uphold United States Law which, incidentally, named after him? That is just stupid, right?
     
  12. Karma Mechanic

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    No birthers are either motivated by hate or stupidity. Nothing he could do would change that as evidenced by the insane reactions on this very thread.

    The sealing of the records has been perfunctory for many administrations. Did you not know that? It wasn't his college transcripts, it was work product while in office. Oh you didn't...so you commented from ignorance again. Color me shocked.

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    case and point........
     
  13. Dutch

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    Spare me. You know both.
     
  14. leftysergeant

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    And anybody who has lived any length of time in a Muslim country knows that that is meaningless. For the purposes of the Indonesian government, he was the son of his mother's husband. Nobody but the citizen can renounce the citizenship of an American citizen.
     
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    Do you believe any self appointed Birther who beats on his chest? Well actually I think you do.

    Who to believe- Mike Zullo- a man who started his 'investigation' by signing a book deal with a Birther- or the Republican Director of Health of Hawaii?

    Who has more credibility..........such a tough call....
     
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    Marine- I like you- you are one of the more consistant and open minded Conservatives on these boards- so it pains me to hear you repeat Birther lies.

    Look it up. Obama didn't seal his Presidential records, he hasn't sealed any of his records- Obama's first executive order rescinded Bush's executive order that made it easier for a President to conceal his records.

    Have you ever actually seen McCain's medical records? McCain carefully allowed access of his records to reporters- he let them read them in a room, without allowing any pictures- which is why you never saw them.

    Why did McCain allow access to his medical records and Obama didn't allow full access to his? Because McCain knew voters were more concerned about his health than they were about Obama's.

    Did McCain release his college records? No- just like Obama he declined to do so.

    Ask yourself this- look at Bush, Clinton and Obama- the last three Presidents- and ask yourself honestly what you don't know about Obama that you think is important- and then ask if you ever knew that about Clinton or Bush.

    Obama did more than he should have to address idiot Birther claims- in my opinion he should never have asked Hawaii to provide that copy of his original BC, and should not have provided it- but then again- he got re-elected, not me- so apparently he understands the voters better than I do.
     
  17. Dutch

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    I did. I lived in Indonesia. And one of my kids attended the same skrul Maya attended. You don't know what you talking about, my friend. No document in Indonesia is meaningless, quite the opposite :)
     
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    If that is all you know with any degree of certainty, well that is a rather sorry admission of your ignorance.

    You even left out that the unsubstantiated paper that you rely upon for that information also says that he was born in Hawaii
     
  19. Dutch

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    You avoided my question, Jeff and rightfully so, for if you're honest, you should say no, I do not believe Government official, especially under oath :)
     
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    Well we already know how utterly useless the libs in the Dem party have proven themselves to be.
     
  21. SFJEFF

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    So pointing out hypocrisy is just 'blah blah blah'? What about Romney- last election 2012- just a few months ago- you must be able to remember that far back- what do you know about Romney that you don't know about Obama? Better yet

    Actually who the hell cares is absolutely right.

    The voters didn't care- Obama has been elected twice- and voters didn't care what his grades where.

    And Bush was elected twice and no one knew his Harvard grades.

    If you are saying that all Presidential candidates should be showing that to the voters- I am not opposed to that- but to complain that Obama is doing exactly the same thing as every other President- and his 2012 opponent is just stupid.

    Once again- anyone who says that they know nothing about Obama's past is either willfully ignorant or a liar. We know as much or more about Obama as we do for every other President- with the single exception of Bush's Yale grades- which he didn't release but which were leaked.
     
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    My God man, just look at the facts.

    What does Obama have to gain by lying? Oh that's right , nothing, nada, zip. He's a US citizen regardless of where he was born.

    Now what do the loons who cling to the birther (*)(*)(*)(*) have to gain............. oh that's right.
     
  23. SFJEFF

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    And you don't know what you are talking about my friend.

    As was stated- no 6 to 10 year old American can renounce his citizenship, and according to Indonesian law- Obama could not have been an Indonesian citizen.

    What we do know is that that document is merely an image of an unauthenticated a school record- as opposed to an official birth certificate from the State of Hawaii, authenticated multiple times by the State of Hawaii- and of course official statements by the U.S. State Department that Barack Obama was never an Indonesian citizen.

    But you remember all of that of course.

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    I didn't avoid any legitimate question.
     
  24. Dutch

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    I'm not touching this staff. I merely laugh at Jeff's unquestionable trust of public officials truthfulness...
     
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    Listen, I don't play politics. I DESPISE Bush and what he did to this country and I Despise Obama for what he is doing to this country. I want an informed public that knows more about their prospective leader's past BEFORE they are in power than their own mother's. This goes for ANY person that applies for the highest office in the land. I hope we can come to common ground on this. I want to know what I am supporting not find out post facto who a person really is. I was fooled by Bush twice!! and in admitting such error I can recognize evil men when I see them and Obama IS evil. Bush IS evil. My axiom is from this point out that those who SEEK power are most certainly evil.
     

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