What Is Main Lesson To BE Learned From the Zimmerman Case ?

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand and agree with much of what you said but BS, no one has the right to commit felony assault on anyone and that is a lesson to take away from this.
     
  2. leftysergeant

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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)! Mali was a civilized and literate country and was expanding when the foreigners invaded to steal their resources. They were no less civilized than most of Europe during the Middle Ages, and had not been on the land as long as the Celts had been in Europe.

    They were not in the stone age. You know what their principle manufactured item, valued all over the world was when Tombouctou was at its high point?

    It was BOOKS.

    Learn some history.
     
  3. CyberCynic

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    Then why couldn't they defend themselves from the foreign invasion and protect their resources???

    Chances are your history lesson was flawed to appease your sense of injustice, and inspire you to educate yourself by reading; and it may possibly cause racism.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Vigilantism is very dangerous and can ruin your life.
     
  5. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Can somebody answer me why it is that any time there’s been the slightest criticism about this country, its history or its people, certain people have complete meltdowns and attack?

    The knee-jerk has always been the same: “don’t like it, get out”

    Newsflash: America is not now or ever has been………. perfect!

    Attacking people that draw a light to her imperfections is incredibly ignorant.

    The only way to get better or improve a society is by having an honest dialog about both that society’s strengths & weaknesses. By admitting where she’s fallen, who she’s left behind, and how she can make course corrections to truly be the beacon of light for all other societies.

    We in-fact do not have: the world’s greatest healthcare system, the world’s greatest educational system, a post racist society after the election of our first black president, a perfect capitalistic system, the cleanest environment, or the best judicial system.

    America still has many problems.

    She’s become very insular regarding her borders & immigrants, polarized in her politics, and as evidenced in these forums seems to be digressing in race relations, and that’s just the tip of the ice berg.

    True, America has become a super power and one of the richest nations in the world, but military or monetary might doesn’t equal "best", and screaming U.S.A. every time a tragedy happens or a terrorist gets killed does nothing to move us forward as a country.

    National pride is great, national pride in itself is not inherently evil, but shouting somebody down who’s brave enough to tell it like it is immature, and shows a real deficit in intellectual thought.
     
  6. CyberCynic

    CyberCynic New Member

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    The problem is that there is a contingent of people who do not want to accept the truth that Trayvon committed the felony assault, and Zimmerman was prepared for such a situation as apart of his duty as an armed security for the neighborhood. And it is questionable as to how it is going to effect the generation of children who are taught the legend of Trayvon Martin - what is the truth.

    Let's have another trial - check that gun for finger prints. Was Trayvon Wearing gloves? Why was Chad not worried about Trayvon not returning from the 7-11 with Skittles??? Why wasn't Rachel worried about Trayvon??? Why did she think it was okay, and that she thought he probably got into a fight with the creepy-ass homosexual rapist, and that it was near his daddy's house, so everything would be okay???

    Because she knew Trayvon could fight???
     
  7. CyberCynic

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    You need to move on to the next step - social contract theory and the generation of a more sophisticated political charter system. The best we're going to get from the blacks is they are going to march and march, and maybe put together a charity rap concert.:roflol: I do not think any of them can write the next civil rights act that will finally bring peace on earth between the blacks and everyone else.

    That gets accomplished by generating a new constitution.

    There are some ideas that i would like to suggest in those areas, but I do not want to impose my ideas on everyone, as much as I want to impose my ideas on describing the missions and limits of the central government system.

    The biggest problem is the lack of states' rights

    The problem is the other countries were unable to emulate our governing system, because it was flawed, but corrected by the political corruption that drove the science and industry.

    Yes it does, because there isn't anything else to measure - where's the love and peace nation?


    It's better than going bankrupt - you know what happens then?
     
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    Firearms. Think.

    More likely you think that the Bamana were living in the stone age. I would say that my knowledge of Africa is more complete than yours.

    You probably wouldn't recognize a djeli if you saw one doing his thing.
     
  9. CyberCynic

    CyberCynic New Member

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    I'm a free and independent thinker, and I consider the possibility that if some things do not stand to reason, then there is a better possibility that there is an untold truth that permeates throughout the evolution of the events associated with the situation.
     
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    He was not doing any kind of duty. He was mentally unfit, as was the only other piece of crap that I know of who is on NW. You have two violent thugs acting like guardians. What a cluster. Everything he did after he made the call to the police was wrong. He needed his head broken.

    No. He thought he was invincible and always right, but was actually stupid, and somebody died as a result. Now he owes damages for wrongful death.

    The jury found him not guilty of murder. They cannot find him innocent of depravity and stupidity.
     
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    I wish you would explain why they did not have fire arms - you describe them as being sophisticated and learned with books. And I suppose the Europeans burned all their books - right?
     
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    Your assumption about his being a banger came out the wrong end of your torso.

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    No. The natives buried them in safe places.
     
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    The main lesson is do not stand your ground.
     
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    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    No. The lesson is to always defend oneself. SYG had nothing to do with this.
     
  15. JohnnyMo

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    It was included in the instructions to the jury, did you forget?
     
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    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Did you ever take the time to educate yourself on this ? Instead of posting these grossly misinformed one-liners ?

    Read here. Its only a day old. And it will give you info you currently do not have. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/21/3513024/marc-caputo-even-without-stand.html

    But for the rest, let me post a couple of quotes:

    The wording is required by Law. Even if not applicable to the Defense in the case.

    And here's some icing on the cake for those of us who knew the Prosecution, and Travonistas everywhere, were full of excrement:.

    Now you know so much more than you did. Hopefully it will steer you away from the ill-informed one-liners.

    And maybe it won't.

    pwned.

    I will now affirm, with proof, that SYG had nothing to do with this trial.
     
  17. CyberCynic

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    Trayvon's teachers did not vouch for his behavior, because they're waiting for the federal trial - right?

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    Is there anything in the scriptures that we can use to organize society like the peaceful one they had?
     
  18. JohnnyMo

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    Really............Lol

    Just as I stated......


    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/12/george-zimmerman-trial-jury-instructions-trayvon-martin

    >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<
     
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    Next time you want to shoot from the hip it would be wise to read the post you're responding to..

    I do have to laugh.. Insult nonsense.????.........ROTFLMFAO!!!!
     
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    Yeah, trayvon supporters don't understand the law so they don't understand the verdict. It is hilarious.
     
  22. Eighty Deuce

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    Next time you might want to inform yourself as to the general discussion.

    Even if Zimmerman's acquittal has created a long-lasting butt-hurt amongst the Trayvonistas here. Having 15 months of hateful posting finally repudiated is a tough pill to swallow. Ain't it ?

    Again, SYG had nothing to do with the night of Feb 26, 2012. Defense argued such. Verdict said so.
     
  23. JohnnyMo

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    Sleep well.
     
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    Traditional self defense has been around for many years. It is a basic human right to defend one's self. The Trayvonites are focused on SYG ....what? That is a disconnect.
     
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    Thanks. You too.

    I slept real well the night of the verdict, btw Still warms my heart. ...:cool:
     
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