Nazi murderers of Jews still walking around USA

This is unheard of; twice in a month now I've agreed with Ivan88! Is this one of the signs of the Apocalypse?

An interesting look into Conspiracy Theorists can be found here.

You missed the punniest - I mean, funniest quote in that article:

 

I like Hofstadter's Paranoid Style in American Politics:
http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paranoid_Style_in_American_Politics

 

That really doesn't sound right. Maybe at a later time, during the war, but not at the beginning.

 

The killing and deportation to camp started with kristalnacht

 

I haven't seen anything that proved the specific number of Jews killed during the war. Sometimes I have a hard time finding things though. If you have a link to some better information, it would be appreciated.

I doubt that, lol.

When I say murder, I mean exterminated, as in Jews were not being exterminated from the beginning. Yes, you will find instances of sporadic killings, but extermination is another thing altogether.

The Nazi's rounded them up and put them into working camps, which would have been the ideal, since Germany gets free labor when it really needs it. However, the pressures of the War made their upkeep a burden, and so it is alleged at this time they began the process of outright extermination.

 

Those camps were built specifically to work them to death or outright kill them. While not of the industrial nature of the later camp, they served the same purpose. Beside after sept. 1939, germany got a whole new bunch of slaves, the poles... They had no use for those jews anymore.

 

No, I'm talking about extermination. Like levels of extermination to where you declare a Holocaust, or genocide. That wasn't happening in the beginning.

 

I don't think that's accurate, or did you mean Polish Jews. From what I remember, it was the Polish Jews that were the major sources of death in WW2, but I may be wrong. Been a while since I studied that...

 

The poles, all slavic people really, were to be slaves for germany. The deportation to work camp started right after the capitulation.

 

You're thinking of the genocidal worshipers of the pedophile false prophet Mohammad who slaughter gays, apostates, those who have sex outside of marriage, and anyone else whom they deem life unworthy of life throughout their imperialistic ventures in every corner of the globe.

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All of the Untermensch were scheduled to die under General Plan Ost, though non-Jews for the most part were to be worked to death during the war after which time the remainder would be liquidated.

Generalplan Ost envisaged differing percentages of the various conquered nations undergoing Germanization (for example, 50% of Czechs, 35% of Ukrainians and 25% of Belarusians), extermination, expulsion and other fates, the net effect of which would be to ensure that the conquered territories would be Germanized. In ten years' time, the plan effectively called for the extermination, expulsion, Germanization or enslavement of most or all East and West Slavs living behind the front lines in Europe. The "Small Plan" was to be put into practice as the Germans conquered the areas to the east of their pre-war borders. In this way the plan for Poland was drawn up at the end of November 1939 and is probably responsible for much of the World War II expulsion of Poles by Germany (first to colonial district of the General Government and, from 1942 also to Polenlagers).[10] After the war, under the "Big Plan", Generalplan Ost foresaw the removal of 45 million non-Germanizable people from Central and Eastern Europe, of whom 31 million were "racially undesirable", 100% of Jews, Poles (85%), Belorussians (75%) and Ukrainians (65%), to West Siberia,[3] and about 14 millions were to remain, but were to be treated as slaves.[5] In their place, up to 8-10 million Germans would be settled in an extended "living space" (Lebensraum). Because the number of Germans appeared to be insufficient to populate the vast territories of Central and Eastern Europe, the peoples judged to lie racially between the Germans and the Russians (Mittelschicht), namely, Latvians and even Czechs, were also supposed to be resettled there.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

 

sick how it hurts you soo much to even consider having sympathy for Jewish victims of genocide.

 

Hätte man zu Kriegsbeginn und während des Krieges einmal zwölf- oder fünfzehntausend dieser hebräischen Volksverderber so unter Giftgas gehalten, wie Hunderttausende unserer allerbesten deutschen Arbeiter aus allen Schichten und Berufen es im Felde erdulden mußten, dann wäre das Millionenopfer der Front nicht vergeblich gewesen.

If we had at the beginning of, and during the war, subjected 12 or 15,000 of these Hebrew corrupters of the people to poison gas, as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from all strata and occupations had to endure, then millions of victims of the Front would not have been in vain.

Mein Kampf, 1925, Volume 2, p. 772.

 

Just as many jews have guns. Just as many gential americans with guns wouldn't buy into the bs required to make it happen again.

 

who said a specific number. It is a consensus number based on the process I described with contributions by hundreds of researchers.

http://www.nizkor.org/

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.ca/search/label/Babiy%20Yar

So hitler's ranting about jews, the masssive propaganda against the jew, the revocation of citizenship of german jews, the nuremberg laws, the force ghettoization of jewish populations, weren't preludes to extermination.

The mass arrests were all about exploiting jews as slave labour until the war started going badly and their upkeep became a burden?

I was hoping that I completely misunderstood your premise when I challenged it the first time.
That is one of the most ludicrous, disgusting and stupid examples of nazi apologism and justification for attempted extermination I have ever heard.

 

Yep, that's how I heard it.

The European Jews that became Israelites were notoriously fierce "terrorists" during the early days of Israel. They were an absolute plague on Britain, till the point where Britain simply washed their hands of them. In a sense, they were much more fiercer than American's during their revolt against the British. I'm not sure if the US provided any sort of aid, but I know they were receiving wepaon shipments from somewhere. They also had their own little civil war of sorts. Unofficial, really. I believe it was a power struggle within Israel. Either way, Israel is certainly not above terrorism. For that matter, the US and Britain are not, either. They just don't call it terrorism.

It's kind of like that saying Tecumseh had during the War of 1812. If the Indians kill a lot of civilians, it's a massacre. If the White's kill a lot of civilians, it's a triumph.

I won't dispute what you are saying, I just personally hold my reservations. I understand that there was a lot of killing and I don't see any reason to deny the Holocaust yet, but I'm also aware that duing wartime, a lot of things get embellishments. Number can be embellished, stories can undergo gratuitous hyperbole, and especially during that time- as in the present- the stigma of the Holocaust was perhaps one of the most enduring checks against Germany the allies had, post war. It is why professional historians often say history is more sensationalism than certainty.

But, at the moment, there was so much death during WW2 that I don't dwell on who didn't die that much. We know that a lot of people did die, but, in the way that victors often do, Germany may have been beefed up to look like the Devil incarnate in order to make America look like the shining white horse...even though it was more a Russian victory. History, huh...

 

That sums up this forum - posters don't come here "to be SWAYED " each come to express their own observations /opinions and perhaps in your case to become even deeper entrenched in your ZioNazi ideology, and trying to silence /suppress - any information which might challenge The Holocaust Industry's gross exaggerations / falsehoods.

The only one's swallowing your Zionist propaganda are those who are already there, trapped in that Web, unable to think outside the box incapable of receiving any new information.

Chinaman he say : "Closed mind -same like - closed book = block of wood"

Here's another Holocaust liar>


[video=youtube;9SQWB36uKkw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SQWB36uKkw[/video]


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How many more liars have got away with it - have not been exposed .


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What are your "deniers " supposed to have denied ?


, I've not yet come across any writer who denied that large numbers died during WW2 in Labour Camps. - All I've heard of are some people questioning /re-examining the evidence of how it happened. -
What's so bad abt that ?


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Polish Jews were the single largest group to be exterminated. Jews from all over Europe were sent "East"
Here's an overview you might find helpful:
.http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005405

 

Well, by specific, I don't mean exact. And consensus doesn't really imply fact more than common opinion or conclusion. And with German officers at the complete mercy of the Allied Courts, I would not doubt there was a fair bit of behind the scenes coaching in some cases. After all, those very same Nazi's that make you puke were brought here into the US to become business owners and entreprenuers. Couldn't have been that bad, I guess.

Either way, I am not defending Nazi's anyway. Yes, the Nazi's did a terrible thing to Jews. Okay. Americans did a terrible thing to Blacks and Indians. Africans do terrible things to Africans. Britain did terrible things to freaking everyone. I'm not denying that. I speculate about the exact magnitude of it. If you can't handle mere speculation, you're probably a little too invested in the situation. And for what, I could not know. What inspires such marshal defense of Jewish people like this. I suppose it's because of the Holocaust being simmered into childrens heads during school. It is a real crime against all the other innocent people who died in that war...

 

Right. That's what I heard.

 

The Nazis kept meticulous records-their bureaucracy was staggering in its extent. Records of who was sent where, how many and what was their ultimate fate can be found in the millions upon millions of documents held in the archives at Bad Arolsen. Naturally Holocaust deniers rapidly change the subject whenever this place is mentioned, or refuse to acknowledge it, or suggest that 15 miles of files are all forgeries!
http://www.its-arolsen.org/en/homepage/index.html

 

How can you or I tell - that many important records are not forgeries .

I ask myself - who has most to gain the Revisionists ? some who was sent to prison ? or the established Zionists silencing criticism /cashing in/ exploitation of the Holocaust Industry ?


When the stakes are high some groups will go to extreme lengths to safe guard their cash cow.

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Don't be ridiculous. The International Red Cross which administers the archive is not in the forgery business. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise. So, who else do you think has had access to in excess of 30 million documents, had time to sift through them all and find exactly the right ones to forge?
You are no doubt aware that the archive was not open to public research until 2007; but I guess a few Jews sneaked in and started forging while nobody was looking, right?

 

No , I did not know that, but thks.
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No . I wouldn't suspect the Int.Red Cross to carry out forging documents. , but the link you posted was International Tracing Service - a tracing and registering missing persons service


" .Tracing missing persons, clarifying people’s fates, providing family members with information on their dear ones and clearing up compensation matters still are the principal tasks of the ITS.

In November 2007 the archive is opened to research pursuant to a new agreement concluded between the member states of the International Commission. The ICRC withdrew from the ITS management in December 2012. The German Federal Archives are the new institutional partner of the ITS. The Commission signed two new agreements on both, the future and administration of the ITS, which replaced all previous ones in January 2013.

http://www.its-arolsen.org/en/about...nd=347&cHash=61f87a30eee91daebe343ac1897598f3


Why did you think anyone would " rapidly change the subject whenever this place ( ITS- BadArolsen) is mentioned, or refuse to acknowledge it, ? and why would anyone wish to forge such documents .?
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Why? Because a detailed search of the archive would put paid to the denialist's fantasies once and for all. They wouldn't like that.