GOP Governor in NC signs law to further restrict voters

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  1. JimH52

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/12/north-carolina-voter-id_n_3745253.html

    I expect to see the GOP pulling out all stops to keep people, particularly the poor and minorities, away from the polling place. Let's see....Voter repression, Gerrymandering, and make believe scandals. What other ideas can the GOP come up with to win national elections. If they could get away with a poll tax, they might try that next.
     
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    This crap works when it's under the radar, good on the ACLU and the NAACP on turning it into a big issue.
    This insures the Democrats will dominate in the new voter registrations, and it will energize the black and Hispanic communities, we may not another Republican in the White House for decades, and when we do, he won't be a conservative.
     
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    But this is the only thing left for the GOP. They are pulling out all stops to keep the white males running this country. They are desperate and I cannot blame them.
     
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    What is it with you people and race? We ran the best candidate in years in the primaries this cycle through with Herman Cain and your stupid liberal media did their predictable hatchet job on him because they couldn't let a black conservative run against President Obama. It would ruin the phony narrative that Democrats are this big minority-friendly party and that Republicans are a bunch of eeevuhl raysissssssstsssss.

    No no, we can't have the truth getting out. The truth that, unlike the Democrats, Republicans actually judge people on their abilities rather than what they look like and that the people who oppose Obama actually oppose him because he sucks and not because he's black (or because he's a white black guy if we're going by the Zimmerman rule).
     
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    Anger only makes you old...
     
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    What does this have to do with my post? It seems as irrelevant as your disingenuous injection of race into the GOP's platform.

    You people are big on condemning things, but you're not very good at actually understanding the things you condemn.
     
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    Herman Cain was a freaking moron, and there is simply no getting around that.


    One of my favorite moments of the election was when Barbra Walters asked him what post he would want in American Government, and he said Secretary of Defense. Awesome and priceless.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kea_gag5AZA
     
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    You cannot be serious. Unlike President Obama, Herman Cain actually had a ton of experience in leadership and an established track record of running successful businesses. He had real world experience as opposed to Obama's empty idealism. Did I mention he also worked as a rocket scientist in the navy? Yeah, some moron. Not that I would expect that to make a difference to you because we both know you didn't vote for Obama because of his policies. You probably didn't even know what they were. You couldn't have cared less. Most people who voted for him were like that.

    And what exactly was supposed to be so funny about your video? Barbara Walters asked him a hypothetical, Cain confirmed that it was a hypothetical, and he answered honestly. Do you even know what a moron is? I'm not sure you do. Because you have yet to show me anything that accurately reflects its definition. I'll give you a little help here. It looks something like this:

    [video=youtube;9wJfsLafye4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJfsLafye4[/video]

    ^Now that's funny.

    There are a couple of gems in there like "halting the rise of privacy" and "bringing greater inefficiencies to our healthcare system" that might just be honest Freudian slips. :roflol:
     
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    Are you joking? Cain had such a limited knowledge of foreign affairs that he was absolutley laughable. Its pretty hard to dispute this really.

    I dont like Obama either, so your secondary post here, with the intention of insulting democrats ( and by extention, most likely, myself ) doesnt really work. However. I think he is a HELLUVA lot better than ANY OTHER OPTION that was presented by the GOP.
     
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    Compared to who? You're just palpably desperate not to give the man any credit here. If I were a Democrat, I would have just called you racist by now and been done with it. But since I'm not, I'm going to give you one chance to prove you're not full of (*)(*)(*)(*). I assume you have somebody more "qualified" to present as an alternative, correct? Let's hear it.


    ^If this is your alternative, then your opinion is a joke. Because not only are you defending somebody who is irrefutably less qualified for the office that he holds, but you are no different than the Democrats whose views you pretend not to share. You know you're left wing. And you know you wouldn't have voted for any candidate the GOP put up anyway because you simply don't vote that way. So your criticism against Cain clearly has nothing to do with qualifications and is merely empty partisanship.
     
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    The Democrats dislike voters from having to provide proof of who they are, because that would stop them from being able to get away with voter fraud.
     
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    Thanks for presuming to know how I vote. I have voted republican plenty of times FYI. I guess you know me better than I know myself. No sense in even bothering with the rest of this conversation. Maybe Cain would be more popular in uz beki beki beki stan. But he sunk his chances here.

    And I simply dont unserstand how you could even consider the racist tag, since I did after all vote for a black man. Just not the black man YOU like. Whens the last time you voted for a black man in any race?
     
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    Where is the proof of all this in person voter fraud?
    You'd think, given the amount of time and money spent investigating they'd have found some by now, but they really haven't.
    But you are prepared to place a burden on millions of people who are qualified to vote, in order to prevent a dozen or so from voting, who aren't qualified.

    Bravo, this goes with my six forms of picture id for any firearms related transaction, and the annual registration of all firearms, all covered by a small license fee.
    Because zero tolerance of illegal firearms possession is our goal.....
     
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    How does one catch people voting for someone else if there is not documentation at all of who is voting? Even so, they have caught plenty of people voting for someone else and they have documented tons of dead people voting.
     
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    When you go to polls they check off your name when they give you a ballot and they check again when you put it in the machine. Theres a record of everyone who voted, their name and address, it's all public records, anyone can check out who voted, check if they are a citizen, check if they are alive and living in the place they say they are. You don't have to catch someone as they fill out the ballot, you can catch them afterwards, or check the list of registered voters before the election, and it's been done and there isn't a problem.


    In the data I saw, what appeared to be voting for someone else was the poll worker checking the wrong name. And the dead people voting were absentee ballots, sent in by people who then died before the election.
     
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    If I vote for you there is not a record of me voting there is a record of you voting.
     
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    Yes, and when I show up to vote and they tell me I already voted, I say WTF and the police are involved and the incident is investigated.
    And when it happens, or when it happened in the data I saw from the last election cycle, it was 2 people with similar names who lived on the same street, or in one case the same house. Police contacted the other person and the person reported that they had voted, so mystery solved, no unexplained in person voting irregularities.

    The other thing that gets pointed out is precincts where 150% of the registered voters vote.
    And the answer is those precincts have 2 page ballots, and for some reason they count each page separately, so if 100 people are registered and 75 show up to vote they count 150 votes, once again, nothing to look at here.
     
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    Yes and the thing is the people looking to commit such voter fraud pick people who are very old in retirement homes or dead people or people in prison to vote in their place.
     
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    I just explained in the actual data I saw, they examined all the cases of dead people voting, and they all involved absentee ballots, mailed before the death.
    The annual census(in Massachusetts every city and town conducts an annual census) compares the voting list to the people actually residing at an address, that takes care of people in prison, and old people in retirement homes have one of the highest voting rates, Democratic volunteers pick them up and drive them to and from the polls.
    There just isn't a whole lot of in person voter fraud, these bills are designed to suppress minority voting, that really isn't a big secret.
     
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    You are just plain wrong. There are lots of dead people voting who did not send in absentee ballots. Yes they attempt to clear out the voting rolls of people that have moved or have died but they only scratch the surface of it.
     
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    Link something besides FOX
     
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    Sure and you link something in the other direction not coming from some left wing rag.
     
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    No fraud...no link....other than the GOP.
     
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    Lots of voter fraud and I will provide links if you will also.
     
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    You mean like this
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...6de3c64-f403-11e2-aa2e-4088616498b4_blog.html

    What was announced as 953 dead people voting turned out to be 5 unexplained votes out of 1.3 million, not 5 fraudulent votes, 5 that they aren't sure of, no votes were found to be definitely fraudulent.
     

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