American Soldiers refuse orders to attack Syria!

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  1. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

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    If you knew a bit more than you think you know, then it'll dawn on you that its the "terrorist" who are doing their utmost to get US military to join them in their battle against Syria's govt's forces.
    Americans will be aiding Al-Qaeda + other radical Islamists against a secular regime.
    THe terrorist are praying for American support, which the Obama Admin is set on providing.


    Gawd save y'all .


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  2. Face. Your

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    A tweet from a Congressman who just happens to be of Palestinian descent, how convincing. :roll:
     
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    The Free Syrian Army are the predominant force in Syria, they are not Islamist and they are in turn led by the Syrian Government in exile the Syrian National Council which likewise is both secular and liberal. I don't know why certain people insist on supporting a totalitarian proto-fascist Baathist government over a movement seeking to establish a pluralist democracy. It must be an ingrained love of tyranny.
     
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    i like this thread for the very reason of realizing that the kids can see more than the idiots give them credit for.

    When i saw the post representing americans as cowards, that is when I saw the hypocracy that turned my stomache.

    I view the OP as being a concept of 'good' purely because it means the kids are thinking before believing what they are told. That is the first step; thinking and capable.

    At this point, this thread opened up another layer of hope for me.

    and thank you for the thread.

    :angel:

    As many of these that can be posted as being "against war"......................... then i like em.

    Now get this kind of idea into the minds of the submarine and button pushing (nuclear ballistic misslie launchers) folk.

    ps.... if there are 'cowards' in the mix, it is the people of israel, as they are the one who said that they 'intercepted' the intelligence that Obama is using, and did nothing to save civilian lives as if to 'go it alone' with the purpose of empathy. Cowards are the people of israel, if assad per se used the chemical weapons on his civilians.

    I dont believe assad (syrians) killed their own with chemical weapons. I believe it was insurgents, that dont care about the human lives
     
  5. Marlowe

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    Would you have preferred it if he was a Jew ?

    btw - did you follow the link , read + attempted to understand , the whole article , hmmm , I guess not:roll:.


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  6. Marlowe

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    Its - Love of Law and Order , which you apparently// and foolishly think your " Syrian Government in exile" are capable of restoring after a regime change .
    If you believe them , then at what price do you think yr "Syrian Govt in exile " can do so , in some distant future date. ?


    Frankly If I was Syrian , I'd rather live with a " totalitarian proto-fascist Baathist government " securely and peacefully raise a family, with everyone going abt the normal life , as in past decades , than the awful present day conditions.

    --- VIVA SYRYA --- . VIVA - AL-ASSAD .

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  7. Durandal

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    Yep, these are soldiers I'm truly prepared to call heroes.
     
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    So unarmed women and children are acceptable collateral damage, in order to kill someone claimed to be AQ in Yemen, but other armed fighters from groups not affiliated with AQ (associated forces) in Syria are unacceptable and so Obama must exercise restraint?
     
  9. bobov

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    No sane soldier would want war, knowing he and his fellows will risk their lives. It's fair of soldiers to expect war to be undertaken only after deliberation, when there is a defined objective of importance and a reasonable plan to win that objective. Open-ended wars, undertaken because we "don't like" someone or something, or to serve the ambitions of politicians are unforgivable assaults by our politicians on our soldiers and the people.

    That said, soldiers must obey orders. They sacrifice that part of their freedom when they enroll in the military. If this were not so, if soldiers could go on strike, then the nation's military capacity would evaporate. Enemies would propagandize among our soldiers (remember Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally from WW2?) and try to make the war as costly as possible for them, in the hope they would quit or at least be demoralized.
     
  10. SyrianGirl1982

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    Those photos of US Army soldiers with the hand written signs were just shown on CNN
     
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    This is what he cares about Marlowe my dear one .

    golan.jpg

    Israel sold the rights to A local subsidiary of the New York-listed company Genie Energy will now have exclusive rights to a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights.

    Its administration of the area — which is not recognized by international law — has been mostly peaceful until the Syrian civil war broke out

    Israel has granted a U.S. company the first license to explore for oil and gas in the occupied Golan Heights, John Reed of the Financial Times reported.

    No I haven't got a link ........sure it is findable though.
     
  12. Injeun

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    No matter who they are, alqaeda or otherwise, the rebel groups in Syria are responsible for all the deaths in Syria..........for all of their own deaths, for all Syrian soldiers deaths, for all civilian deaths in Syria because the rebels started this war. Otherwise, there'd be no deaths or destruction.
     
  13. SyrianGirl1982

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    Message to US Marines from Syrian Army posted on hacked Marines.com website

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  14. Ivan88

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    Injeun is correct to a degree. But more guilty than the traitors in Syria are the American "Christns" who have betrayed everything to support fake Muslim terrorists to attack Yugoslavia, Russia, Libya, Syria, Iraq etc. all this to support their favorite Synogog of Satan .
     
  15. bobov

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    It's not the Israelis, Rammstein, it's the Martians. They arrived in the rural US (where else could they get a good burger?) in Roswell and have been in cahoots with the government since then. Martians don't like "those people over there" and want to kick their ass. The US is their tool. No one knows what's in it for US politicians, but I think McCain gets a limitless supply of Viagra.

    Now there's my well worked out thesis, grounded in verifiable facts. It's at least as good as yours about Israel.
     
  16. SyrianGirl1982

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    Name me one secular rebel group on the ground. Do not name FSA because it's only a name to describe all groups. Name me one secular group in Syria, which region and city they operate in. Name me one city they control and where they have secularism. I bet you wont because no such groups exist.

    Aleppo - under control of Al-Nusra (sharia law)
    Ar-Raqqah - under control of Islamic State in Iraq and Levant (sharia law, beheading priests and massacred christians)



    NYT: “Nowhere In Rebel-Controlled Syria is There a Secular Fighting Force”


    Across Syria, rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists. Even the Supreme Military Council, the umbrella rebel organization whose formation the West had hoped would sideline radical groups, is stocked with commanders who want to infuse Islamic law into a future Syrian government.

    Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/w...eate-dilemma-for-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
     
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    All hail our way cool Martian overlords! They have given us the Twerking Miley lovebot.
     
  18. Stuart Wolfe

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    You're off-base on that one. They're pretty much aware that Israel is going to build the Third Temple, is going to be attacked by other countries, and is going to emerge triumphant. Depending on which one you listen to, the Church itself is going to be raptured off the board, leaving Israel/the Jews to continue the mission of causing the world to repent. So it would be more accurate to say that CZ's are funding Israel because they want to accelerate the time when they themselves get caught into heaven; they know Israel is gonna be around for a long time, just what is said in Zechariah 12, much less Revelations, is enough for them.
     
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    Like some of your fresh comments, Frodly.
    And viewing the 10 Commandments with a fresh lively mind will reveal that all those negatives are really positive.
    Thou shalt not commit murder = A man has a right to his life and no one, not even a democracy can lawfully take his life away.
    Thou shalt not covet or steal = A man has a right to his property, wives and children.
    The negatives apply to everyone. As Ayn Rand put it. No one has a right to initiate the use of force against his neighbor.

    If America was honoring these Mandates America would be loved by all or most nations who would copying those mandates in their own nations.
    But, instead, we chose to ignore the basis for Western Civilization, and follow after Talmudic doctrines that destroy Western Civilization, that negate the Word of "nature's God".

    America's Divine Mandates include one that orders America “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them,”and to have “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind”.

    The apostate Christians in America and Europe led society to violate all laws for life and happiness and sacrifice everyone to a demonic lust for Armageddon as if it is inevitable or desired by the Logic of all life. Our insane lust for lies and wars and Armageddon is not God's Will, but the result of our own evil worship of our own rotten egos.
    [​IMG][​IMG] Iago
    [​IMG] Shakespear's Othello is about the human ego and its vile treachery. Our ego is no different from the evil Iago in Othello.
     
  20. SyrianGirl1982

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    Here is the head of your "Secular Free Syrian Army" Salim Idriss

    Obama to Rely on Syrian Leader Who Claims Al Qaeda Aren’t Terrorists to Keep Weapons Out of Al Qaeda’s Hands

    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreen...s-to-keep-our-weapons-out-of-al-qaedas-hands/


    [video=youtube_share;xTiETMS4Rqk]http://youtu.be/xTiETMS4Rqk[/video]

    The Dark Side of the Free Syrian Army

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-wagner/dark-side-free-syrian_b_2380399.html


    Here are your beloved FSA torturing and humiliating the Yellow Man of Aleppo. He was a famous personality in Aleppo due to his liking of bright yellow suit. He was a celebrity. I met him on my trip to Aleppo.


    [video=youtube;BYkGelTddCk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYkGelTddCk[/video]


    FSA admitted they kidnapped him. Nobody has seen him alive for a year now.
     
  21. Ivan88

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    Thank You Syrian Girl for posting in defense of not only Syria, but Europe, America, Russia, China and the rest of the world.

    The Egyptian military and the Syrian military have come to learn that:

    The military's 1st duty is to protect the public security of the nation's people. That is the real Constitution.

    Democracy is just a racket to get a mob to vote to violate the rights of Men.

    The real Bill of Rights is the 10 Commandments that says a Man has a right to be secure in his life and his property, and a right to a society that honors those rights in Truth, Mercy and Faith.
    That is the the public security and the real constitution that the military is to uphold as its primary objective.
     
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    in other words,

    "I refuse to take orders from a black man."
     
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    US Marines had no business being in Lebanon..... experts have said that act was not terrorism but a strike against a military object. If you think that was terrorism, then every attack on Soviet Military in Afghanistan was also terrorism, and by supporting the Afghan mujahadeen and jihadis back then, USA also sponsored terrorist groups.

    Yeah I am heavily biased towards Secular Syria.

    LOL I don't like Sunnis? So that means I don't like myself and my own family because we are all Sunnis!

    I HATE WAHHABIS + SALAFISTS. I love all Syrians, Sunnis Alawites Christians Druze and Kurds who want our country to remain Secular , tolerant and free of islamism.
     
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    Actually I don't know who.he is.but I sure have my suspicions.
     
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    That's another topic. This topic is about whether or not the US should involve itself in Syria's civil war. My perspective is in regards to media bias which paints the Assad government as the aggressor and cause of Syria's sufferings. In fact, it is all the result of the rebellion. Now if one says that Assad is bad and the rebellion is justified. Then it stands to reason that the deaths, civilian and otherwise, are also justified. If so, there is no truth to the medias position that the US must get involved to prevent these unjustified deaths when the deaths are in fact justified. The media and many of our own politicians(Obama, McCain,etc.) in the U.S. are lying to us. We are never told by the media something as basic to reason and information that most Syrians support Assad over the alternative, and they also condemn the civil war.
     
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