Fast food employees walking out a good thing?

Nope. No limo. But I don't want to see $20 Big Macs.

 

Perhaps you should stay away from the Big Macs? But if that's what's important to you, I understand.

 

I didn't talk down to anyone ... I encouraged Johnny to go out there and pursue his ambitions as far as he can.
That is how things get done ... That is why I am where I am at ... You are were you are at ... And Johnny is where he is at.

If telling people that to change the world ... First you actually have to do something to change it ... Makes me a snob, then I will wear the label.

 

You don't talk "down" to people? Geez, it sure looked like it. That what that was? "Encouragement"? Very well disguised, I guess.

 

It is called productive negative encouragement ... Works well with some people ... And I am willing try something new if necessary.
Sometimes it is easier to get someone to push forward if you tell them they cannot do something ... Reverse psychology, keep up or step aside.

Edit: you may notice that no matter how it is said ... My answer is the same ... "Get off your ass and do it".

 

Oh...I see. You're much smarter than him. Now I understand.

 

I didn't say I was smarter than Johnny ... I said I was smarter than you ... At least you are getting closer to the answer.

 

He makes a huge salary cause he sold franchises to people who wanted their own business as well...

 

It's fine if you think America is better off without a middle class. Which is exactly what's happening. Now, middle class requires a 4-year degree and a whole lotta really good luck. Which means that social mobility is really hard for people at the bottom of the ladder -- they went to a bad high school, they can't complete a college degree. Which is how they ended up on the low end of the low wage scale. But now we're doing the same thing with fast food and retail. Which means that most of those jobs will be lost to robots or turned into part-time or temp work, or like the office job, require education beyond high school.

It's about choices. We don't want the pollution, which also means we don't have the factories, and thus the middle class jobs that factories provide. I think had you made that proposal to the people who used to work in those factories, they might have made a different decision. I think if you asked the Fast Food guy whether he'd rather have a low-paying but steady job with benefits or a temporary part-time job with no benefits, he'd probably take the former. We can't go on killing every low wage job because we don't like low wages -- people are counting on having these jobs. The good old days for the middle class was when a guy could get a job in a factory and feed his whole family. The way things are going today, i think the "good old days" are going to be the days when you knew week to week if you were going to have a job, and you could have a full time job and minimal benefits. Raise the wages, and all of that goes away in favor of temp work and part time, neither of which provide benefits or security.

 

I've been a working man my whole life fraud. Never made more than about sixteen bucks an hour. Thanks to leftist (*)(*)(*)(*) heads and their continual increases in minimum wage and daily torrent of regulations it now take almost twenty bucks and hour to get a little bit ahead and build a small emergency reserve fund and most businesses can't afford to pay that much and stay in business. There are fewer and fewer entry level jobs year by year and everything costs more and more, and more companies are going broke because they can't afford the ever increasing costs of labor and bureaucratic bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

You remind me of an assclown I worked with during my exile down in Alabama. All he ever did was gripe aobut how little he was paid and complain about what little it was they expected him to do to stay employed. They finally got tired of his tired act and canned his dumb ass and frankly I'm surprised it took them as long as it did.

 

Anytime you'd like to challenge me to an IQ test sister, I accept.

 

Thanks and Amen!! You said that very well.

 

You indicate that you believe your thoughts/answers are exclusively the best. A lot of people make that mistake; in the end, they realize that they are only 'human'.

 

Oh man, that whole tirade was just so much BS, that it about made me gag. "Business" CAN afford to pay a living wage to all employees, but, they CHOOSE not to, in lieu of more profit. Hey, if you can't pay a living wage, then you don't deserve to be in business at all. NOBODY (in the middle class) gets "ahead" any more. They just scurry along, hoping they can ride it out until the next paycheck. That's the reality you refuse to acknowledge, and that you want to blame on labor costs. Like I said, what a crock.

 

The only ones getting hurt here are the kids of the workers. Do you really think the owner will miss a meal? The workers on strike's kids will.

 

Can you give me an example of what you mean?

Are you saying some unions give "kick backs"? or all unions? I'm curious to your answer. BTW the EU may have gotten it right, but in all fairness their labor laws are much more stronger and have teeth to them as opposed to the USA. Are you aware that besides South Africa, the US has the worst labor laws in the industrialized world?? The so-called agency fees which you describe as ridiculous are paid because the union has to represent them and its only fair that they pay their fair share. In right-to-work (right-to-work-for-less) states, they don't have to join and pay nothing at all and yet the unions are forced to represent them if they get into trouble. I could live with them if unions were not required to represent them at all. In the mean time, they are freeloaders.

My union had a local in Miami; the unit was composed of 86 members, yet only 6 were members of the union; the rest were freeloaders; every time it would come time for contract talks, you'd get about 40 or 50 would pay the $2 initiation fee, join the union, vote on the contract and then resign from the union so they wouldn't have to pay any dues; We fixed that problem by increasing the initiation fee to $1,000. next contract talks only 7 more joined and they stayed members. So you had 13 people deciding the terms and conditions of employment for everyone including the freeloaders

 

They'll get their jobs back with back pay. The restaurant violated the law if what you said is true. Sorry to ruin your day.

 

Could bump the stock price down if these walkouts keep occurring. That'd be a great thing. The pigs can always eat their garbage so, no, they'll not likely miss any meals. I'm not sure they serve Big Macs on their yachts though.

 

You won't; never happen. maybe a modest .55 cents per big mac and maybe a .15 cent increase for a burger unless the owners are feeling not too greedy and keep the burgers at their present price and have a few dollars less in their profit margin.

 

I say that the average person should get to decide what the average person eats, not RtWngaFraud

Only around 3% of Americans are working the Federal minimum wage. If you're one of them and don't like that you're free to find a real job and stop working at McDonalds, or you can stop complaining, but McDonalds is under no obligation to increase your wage. Too many assume that they're entitled to the property of others for silly reasons.

Also, too many people single out certain undesirable groups for these sorts of ideas. Imagine if the government mandated that Apple pay all its workers $15/hr, and iPhones suddenly became $3,000 each - hipsters everywhere would be up in arms - but if you propose the same thing for undesirables - tobacco, alcohol, fast food, financial companies, etc - then they're all for it.

The left too often uses the state to just advance their interests.

 

I think those who are in the process of unionizing would not agree with your viewpoint.

 

No they won't; as much as the anti-labor people would like to see, that's what public assistance is all about and you and other taxpayers will help to pay for it.

 

Yeah, I have a great example.

"[Your] union had a local in Miami; the unit was composed of 86 members, yet only 6 were members of the union; the rest were freeloaders; every time it would come time for contract talks, you'd get about 40 or 50 would pay the $2 initiation fee, join the union, vote on the contract and then resign from the union so they wouldn't have to pay any dues; We fixed that problem by increasing the initiation fee to $1,000. next contract talks only 7 more joined and they stayed members. So you had 13 people deciding the terms and conditions of employment for everyone including the freeloaders " ~gamewell45​

It will be a little hard for you to claim that this doesn't happen when you gave me a golden example from your own personal experience. lol

I assumed the context of my statement made it clear what I was talking about. We were talking about agency fees and then I said, "It's funny how people think that forced union kickbacks is somehow "fair" or democratic." It should be obvious that I consider the agency fees that have to be paid regardless of the desires of the payer to be "forced union kickbacks". As in, kickbacks paid to the union. I honestly have no idea how you turned that into unions giving kickbacks to others.

BS. Unions are NOT required to represent non-union members in right to work states. You created that from whole-cloth.

 

Of course we don't get ahead anymore the damn government thiks we are so stupid that they mandate our bosses spend half our pay checks for us. Your damn pay check is about half of what it costs Mr. Businessman to have you on his payroll. What ever you are paying for your insurance at your place of business in my experience Mr. Businessman is usually paying another 3 to 4 times as much.

And it doesn't cost that much because Mr. Businessman (and you) are being gouged by the insurance companies but because the insurance policy the government forces them to buy has to cover things that not one person in a thousand ever uses but is expensive as hell when that one person shows up that wants that service. Things like sex change operations, and sickle cell anemia coverage, drugs and other treatments for certain of what are called orphan diseases and certain very rare genetic disorders. That is one of several draw backs to having your insurance furnished by your employer the other being that it makes it very difficult for people to change jobs, because of the lapse in insurance coverage.