The Incessant Irrational Fear of Debt continues by Republican's even amidst Good News

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wrong, YOU brought it up in response to my pointing out the broken window fallacy. So do you still support measures to stop global warming since those disasters are a boon to the economy as you claim.

    Now you're dodging goalpost firmly in the ground. Stop your dancing.

    And yes it does matter where you get your money from and the effect on the economy as I demonstrated and you have nothing to refute it. If I make $100,000 this year and they take half and give it to you so we both spend $50,000 there is a BIG difference to the economy than had we both earned $100,000 and both spent $100,000.

    Is that beyond your comprehension?
     
  2. EMTdaniel86

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    You're worried about the real world? Yet the Democrats doubled the debt in 6 years and you're blaming the Republicans. You're not worried about the real world in anyway, you just want to sit here and play political hack games.
     
  3. Goodoledays

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    :clapping:I bet akp was one of the persons in this survey that was taken.

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  4. dujac

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    i've already seen how bad you are at guessing

    here's a fact: our deficits are falling at the fastest rate in 60 years



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  5. Hoosier8

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    Still highest ever and projected to grow.

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  6. dujac

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    how many times did the gop fight to raise debt limits while bush was in?
     
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    Deflection, the real problem is run-a-way government spending.
     
  8. dujac

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    of course you won't answer

    and deficit spending is on the decrease, not running away
     
  9. Hoosier8

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    Still highest in history and projected to increase.
     
  10. dujac

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    it's high because bush let wall street nearly sink the financial industry
     
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    Yeah, everything is Bush's fault, like Obamacare, a new entitlement program.
     
  12. dujac

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    the fact is that financial crisis happened under bush's watch

    obama cleaned up after him and got the country back on its track

    but of course the gop couldn't stand for that, so they obstruct everything
     
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    LOL, pretty lame. Much of the groundwork for the housing bubble happened under democrat rule. The Clinton admin fought and won against regulating derivatives, the basis for much of the problem. Look up Brooksley Born. Democrats continue to fight for fiscal irresponsibility under the guise of "saving the middle class". Nothing has changed.
     
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    your ridiculous excuses are what's lame
     
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    Ask yourself who repealed Glass Steagall. The financial crisis might not have happened at all but for the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banking for seven decades.

    History is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), ain't it?
     
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    Show where I brought up natural disasters without someone mentioning them first. Of course I support measures to stop global warming just like I support measures to stop natural disasters. We don't need natural disasters to spend the money necessary to grow the economy.

    You are changing the goalposts. We were talking about you spending your money or someone else spending your money. Now you are talking about you spending your money and someone else making the same amount of money. That's what conservatives have to do when they debate. Just make things up and when they get called out for their silliness they just change the goalposts.

    Of course if someone earns $100k instead of taking your money it is better for the economy. But that was never the discussion until you realized you didn't have a point.

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    Bush doubled the debt also. Reagan almost tripled it. What does your statement have to do with the real world?
     
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    Conservatives love their cartoons
     
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    Indeed! What does yours have to do with the real world?
    I would take Reagan's economy over Obama's any day.
     
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    So would I, lol. Reagan was one of the best Keynesians we've ever had!
     
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    At much lower debt and MUCH lower deficits that were dropping dramatically down to a paltry $161B. If the deficits was double that there would be no issues with a slight increase in the debt limit if it were at those levels and falling. Stop the intellectually shallow excuses.
     
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    there you go making bad guesses again

    what a joke, it's you making excuses
     
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    Hardly, it were the quite opposite policies that created one of the most productive economies we have ever had after he and Volker got us out the mess Carter left him. Don't forget Reagan request less spending each year than Congress authorized not like Clinton who did the opposite and the Congress spent less than he requested.
     
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    What opposite policies are you talking about? Slashing taxes, huge deficits, tripling the debt, increasing government spending, government employment, etc. Keynes would give Reagan a hug if he were alive!
     
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    And still way above acceptable levels where Obama and the Democrats took them, That they lowered the $1,400B deficit they create, after being left a $161B by the Bush and the Republicans, to $900B after 4 years is hardly something to be bragging about. And it is not projected to come down and now Obama wants an increase in the debt limit so he can spend more at these levels. Wait till Obamacare kicks in and the effects it will have on the deficits.

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    Has nothing to do with the current deficits or those of the last 4 years. It's spending by the government and the lack of polices to get the economy back on track to produce needed revenues. All those babies belong to Obama.
     

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