Ireland: Israeli products marked with yellow sticker

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Islam needs no defense because it opposes the sexual immorality which the West has invited into their culture and the Feminism that could destroy the Muslim nations the same way it will in Europe and America.

    But Israel does need defense from the propaganda that incites terrorism by lies and out right motivation to eliminate Jews and steal the land they bought and paid for in 1948.
     
  2. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    And what about the land that Israelis are stealing and 'settling'? Is it theirs to take? No; and everyone-including Israel's prime benefactor, America-has condemned the illegality of the occupation and settlement expansion.
     
  3. Margot2

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    You have a very idealized version of the history .... The terraces haven maintained and farmed since Roman times and Israel has destroyed the water table and the aquifers since 1967. There were no forest to deforest..
     
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    All depends on what one defines as a "rogue state". In any case, GENERALLY, boycotts don't have a good history for being very effective. And sometimes, they backfire and provide MORE SALES to the object of the boycott. One case was when CAIR (prime Muslim Brotherhood front group) called for a boycott on Michael Savage, a severe critic of CAIR and Islamization. Savage's rating's soared, as millions more listeners started tuning into his broadcasts.
     
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    Only 6% of the land was bought by the European Zionists by 1948.. The rest of it they simply took.
     
  6. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Your usual scribbling of rubbish with your constant drama and very limited blind intelligence - your motus operandi. Perhaps that is a little unfair as it appears that you might only be about ten years old and like to repetitively parrot other peoples opinions. Unlike the posts of the bigot you are, care to show me one post of mine that has attacked anyone's religion?
     
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    No, Palestineans attacked only in the Israeli War of Independence and in numerous terrrorists attacks of varying sorts. I believe you are referring to the Egyptians, Syrians and Jordanians when you refer to the past military enemies of Israel who invaded (and in 1967 it was the Israelis doing the invading). As for defending the lands wonl, it's amazing how the boundaries of the land being defended keep growing and expanding; at this rate Israel will defend itself into a conquest of the entire Levant.

    Why don;t you drop the rhetoric and admit that both sides have warts on their past actions, but for the last few decades Israel has definitely had the upper hand militarily and inside its controlled territories (note the careful phrase I just used). Civilian casualties have been about a 4:1 ratio (Palestinean:Israeli) and about a 9:1 ratio in deaths of children during the past quarter century. I

    f those ratios were reversed and the loss of land was reversed (in 1967 Israelis owned about 4% of the West Bank - virtually all in Jerusalem - while today the government and private citizens of Israel own 42% of the West Bank) would Israelis act in a more peaceful manner than the Palestineans do? I don't think so, although I do believe their actions would be a lot more effective than the Palestineans have been.
     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Israelis were forced to take much of the land which was sitting idly by, because the Arabs could not sell it to them for fear of reprisal by their Muslim brethren since it would be legitimizing Israeli control. If any of the land was sold, it would have been by the Arab Christians who wanted a better life for themselves and their children, than the life which they were having in a predominantly Muslim land.

    Anyway I am only assuming all this from the little I have read, so it might not be totally accurate.
     
  9. Margot2

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    The Arabs had farmed that land for 2000 years.............

    Arab Christians were the first to organize and try to keep the European Zionists out circa 1920.
     
  10. Jeannette

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    Margot I think the problem is the Muslim mentality of perceiving any leeway by Israel as a sign of weakness. The Arabs, and for that matter the Iranians will only demand more and more. If it wasn't the case, Israel would probably do anything for peace. The reason I am saying this is because unlike the Arabs, the Israelis care for their children while the Muslims are forced to sacrifice everything for Islam.
     
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    Oh horse sh*t.. Where did you get the idea that Arabs don't love and cherish their children???????????
     
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    It's the same excuses the dutch apologists and racists use when talk of Apartheid South Afrika, that most of the land was untended, idle whatever rubbish that will excuse their imperialistic ambitions. Generally a weak argument, in fact its no argument at all.
     
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    Exactly....
     
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    You mean like Yahweh did with his son?
     
  15. Jeannette

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    Margot the Arabs were not in that land for two thousand years. The Jews and Romans were, and by Romans I mean the Christian citizens of the Eastern Roman Empire. They spoke either Greek or their local languages until Mohamed came with his invading armies. The Christians either left or were forced to convert, basically the same thing that is going on today throughout the Middle East.

    After the conquest and massacre of the inhabitants of Jerusalem in the First Crusade, people were brought in from the Byzantine Empire and Europe to repopulate it, so the Arabs today have no historical relation to that land what so ever. This though doesn't really mean anything other then combatting Palestinian propaganda which is ongoing. What does mean something is that the land deteriorated under the Ottomans until the Jewish settlers began coming from Russia. It was these settlers that planted the citrus trees in the desert and changed the climate, bringing in more humidity. I mean come on, let's give credit where credit is due.

    This is not meant to undermine the original inhabitants, but rather some of the antiquated concepts still existent in Islam which limits the commercial potential of the Muslim Arabs.
     
  16. Margot2

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    The Arabs have been in Palestine since the time of Abraham.. Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in Samaria circa 700 BC.. and Ezra wrote about them after the Babylonian exile.

    The Jewish immigrants have destroyed the water table and the aquifers...the Dead Sea and the Jordan River.
     
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    Of course they love their children, but not enough to want peace instead of Jerusalem. Peer pressure can be a terrible thing, and the Muslims are not the only ones, although they are carrying it to an extreme. How many fathers in the Western world would be ashamed if their sons were not willing to sacrifice everything for their country. :confuse:
     
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    These young suicide bombers have been studied. They are driven by despair.. not sacrificed by their parents.

    You fail to understand that every family in Palestine has lost family and loved ones.. property and farms to the Israelis.
     
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    - "One report found that four out of five Middle Eastern women recalled having been forced into fellatio between the ages of 3 and 6 by older brothers and other relatives."
    - "60 percent of all sexual assault victims are minors. Family members commit nearly one third of these incidents. " (Saudi Arabia)
    - "45 percent of children are mistreated during their daily lives." (KSA again)
    - "More than 23% of children in Saudi society have been raped"
    - "one in four children is [sexually] abused in the Kingdom. "
    - "From a legal point of view, while sexual harassment against children ..... we look at it as a mistake or a wrongdoing, not as a crime,"

    All sources are found here.

    By the way, their own Prophet Muhammad sexually abused 9 year old Aisha by marrying her when he was 54. You defend Islam in every way.

    Would you marry off your 9 year old daughter to a 54 year old man?
     
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    To say the people living in Palestine are Arabs because they speak a Semitic language, would be like saying the Germans and French are Persians because they speak an Arian language.

    As for destroying the aquifers, the Dead Sea and the Jordan River, did the Israelis destroy them or were they destroyed by modern civilization? :confuse:
     
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    For God's sake look at your source.

    Raping a child in KSA will get you the death penalty....

    Aisha was 19 not 9 and the links have been posted repeatedly.

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    The Israelis destroyed them by mismanaging water sources since 1952.
     
  22. Xaseui

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    Whats wrong with the source? You use Muslim websites to defend Islam all the time here, so I can use any site I want, especially if its cites its sources.
    Those sources are all mentioned on the site.

    Poor 9 year old Aisha underwent sexual abuse when 54 year old Muhammad had sex with her.

    You defend Islam while ignoring Sahih hadiths. You resort to hadiths when its convenience for you.
     
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    Wikislam is a hate site... Aisha was 19 at the time of her marriage.

    http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

    Aisha was born before the Call.
     
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    You use "Love" websites all the time. You use Muslim websites to defend Islam. Why cant people use "hate" websites in response to your constant defense of Islam?

    WikiIslam is not a hate site. Websites which are critical of a certain faith system cannot be labelled as "hate sites". This kind of labeling is an attempt as censorship.
    You might want to look at the term Islamophilia. I believe it applies to you.
     
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    Yes, wikislam is consistent in its hate and misinformation..

    Would you go to a Muslim website for an explanation of the Trinity??? LOLOLOL
     

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