You keep talking about a virgin child. What does that mean to you? How old is this virgin child and would you take her as your wife (if she possibly wants you)? - - - Updated - - -
My Morals are specific to understanding that People are People and some will fall...some will become lost and some will allow others to think for them. Do you know what the difference between you and a thief or criminal is? It is the ability to eat and drink and have a roof over ones head. Because of what I do....when I am on a...JOB....in some Hell Hole of a place....my Team and I basically hold life and death in our hands. Just because that is true does not mean we have the right to choose who is worthy of life or unworthy and should die. This is why I hand pick my Team because the LAST PERSON I would want on my Team is anyone that thinks as you do. AboveAlpha
I think 16-24 is a good age for chaste girls and young women to marry. I cannot recommend outside of this age range. If a young woman gets too old, 25-30, then she should just lose her virginity to whoever, since she essentially is not focused on marriage or family. If she was, then she would already have committed by then. There probably is something wrong if a woman keeps her virginity too long. Why wasn't she married off sooner? It's very suspicious. There is a balance here. You don't want the promiscuous, unchaste women who become jaded and hate men. Alternatively, you don't want a 30 year old virgin prude woman, who sits at home alone with a dozen cats. Both are bad. But the unchaste woman is worse. - - - Updated - - - What are you talking about??????? You sound as if you do NOT choose who lives and dies????? Are you delusional??? Maybe you are irresponsible of yourself.
The numbers do not support your position. In fact people who get married in their late 20's to early 30's have the longest marriages....as if a person get's married too young they tend to get divorced. As well couples who have already had sex with at least one other partner besides each other stay married longer than those who do not. AboveAlpha
You just don't get it do you? sigh* I judge the success of a JOB based on the lowest number of incidents or lowest number of people being hurt. AboveAlpha - - - Updated - - - No...I don't...but there are MANY members who do. Some day your ideology is going to bite you in the ass. I know what I am talking about as far as that. AboveAlpha
Please define it for me. What does that mean "extends beyond the Bible"? Is the following what you are talking about when you say "True Christianiy": True Christian Religion by Emanuel Swedenborg
True Christianity as in...."Norman! Norman Bates! Why are you talking to that girl!!???" "But Mother...PLEASE! She is nice and sweet!? "She is a SLUT Norman!" "You know what must be done!!" Crazy. AboveAlpha
It would seem you are the type of person who also doesn't care about hypocrisy. You are already unchaste so your view of others is interesting. The only difference between you and another man who has done the same may just be that you asked for forgiveness? So you got to go out and enjoy, then ask forgiveness, and that somehow puts you right back up on the pedestal to judge others and to be entitled, at least in your mind, to a chaste woman who has saved herself for marriage. That's quite the hypocrisy. You become unchaste, then desire someone who is. See where I'm going with this? I'll take my point to the next step because I think this is key. You asked for forgiveness for your sins and we can assume they were forgiven. But you point at all these "unchaste" women and you've offered not one comment that suggests they could in any way be forgiven for THEIR sins. Couldn't they just do the same and be as chaste and clean as you seem to be professing you are? After all, that's what you desire and I can only assume that's what you are suggesting you deserve because of your beliefs. And finally, if you're entitled to a life with a woman who joins you in a lifetime of love, and she's pure, doesn't she deserve to receive the same? She saved hers and she deserves someone who saved his. Or does the fogiveness you received make you chaste but leaves a woman unable, or even undeserving, of the same? I really would, for once, like for you to directly answer the question without a tap dance into a different discussion that ends with insults and "I'm better than you" bravado. I'm not one of the atheists you think everyone here is but I fully understand your twisted play on Christianity is very much self serving after watching how you operate. Do unto others...
I suppose you are entitled to want what you want. Personally, I'd rather have a slut who enjoys being a sexual creature as much as I do, if not more.
A woman who's really turned on is awesome and a trifle scary -- as a male in my late fifties I am allowed to admit that second part. What concerns me most about the "beautiful young women, sexually conservative, chaste, pure, virgin, are worth fighting for and valuing" statement is that it smacks of both ownership coupled with zero awareness of a woman as an independent-minded human being who's the sum -- by far -- of more than her body and her reproductive capabilities.
Way too late. Teenagers ought get married around High School graduation time, because they are sexually drive by their god given hormones to mate. If society woes not want abortion, welfare, and illegitimate babies, society MUST be realistic and get back to making marriage the proper institution for sexual expression between these young people. It is insane to expect these young people to wait 14 years from puberty at age 12, until marrying around age 26 as they now do, . The boys could be consider Roman Catholic Priest under those circumstance, if they actually did wait,... which they won't, because they are not crazy like their parents.
Dear Heretic, I have all these thoughts that keep spinning around in my head. My purpose for writing this is, first, I personally do not in any way HATE you. I also believe that others on this forum do not HATE you. On a personal note, although, I do not agree with you, I admire your convictions and passion. I think you are trying to share those beliefs and values with us (westerners) while at the same time seeking (or a better word) probing western thought. Last night, I strangely chose to try my best to better understand you because you were evading all my questions for unknown reasons. I decided to try to find a better understanding of you and your culture. Please do not laugh but in order for me to do that, I spent several hours reading and trying to decipher every post you ever wrote on this forum because I DO seek to understand. I imagined that you were circumventing my questions, either, because you didn’t find me worthy of a response because I am a non-believer as you have pointed out to countless others on the forum or you were trying to hide who you are from us (westerners). Perhaps because you believed that (and you were just in thinking so) you would be persecuted. After combing through all your post, I tend to accept the latter because you do this to everyone. Having said this, I believe that you identify with Islam for several reasons. Firstly, it is clear to me that your post on chaste women originates from Islam and comes from Qur’an and Hadith interpretations. Secondly, out of all the religions that I have examined, Islam sticks out in my mind because unlike all other religions, Mohammad explicitly lays out not only a path to a peaceful and virtuous life on many levels (I think) but also how to attain it and therein lays a profound difference. No other religion that I know of does this. Most of my life, I have studied many if not all the religions of the world, on my own of course because I am not an academic. However, throughout my life, religion has always remained and still is a fascination for me (all religions). One other thing I noticed is that you had almost no knowledge of western culture and please forgive this indiscretion, I do not mean to be rude. I noticed this for one reason and everything after was an assumption on my part. I read on at least two occasions where you said that all girls in America were having sex between the ages of 12 and 14 and that they were (and I quote) all sluts and whores. These are your words. In that moment, I knew that you had limited comprehension of the west or western thought. I believe you think you know western civilization through either direct limited experience or the media, or god forbid, this forum. Americans and probably the west take western media with grain of salt. However, we do have a way of weeding out most propaganda if we take the time. Things that matter to me, I will take a vast amount of time weeding out the lies. This media thing is something that is driven by profit. This deeply saddens me and I try to make a difference. At any rate, getting back to my original thought on how I came to my conclusions. I have only one daughter, she is eighteen and still a virgin. Throughout her high school years, she worked many many hours in her community raising money for child advocacy groups (for the less privileged of our society) because she believes in the potential of all. All her friends of which they are varied and many, between the ages of 16 and yes 24 who share her values are all (minus 1 to be fair) and you guessed it are all virgins. At their tender ages, these girl/women are all incredibly compassionate with shared values and humble sometimes to a fault . I believe with a passion that if you took the time to really understand western civilization, you would not be so critical of western culture. It takes a kind of discipline or force of will to weed out all the lies, misinformation, and propaganda. These forums are not the place for that. There are too many well meaning or not zealots and full of anger and these forums are a place where they can anonymously get there ya’s-ya’s out so to speak. More likely, their real conversations with trusted friends go very differently. This behaviour does not make them bad people. It just means like all of us, they are still trying to understand the world around them, make adjustments to their lives, and discover where they fit in the scheme of things. Thank you for listening and if you have questions or corrections to my theories, you are always welcome to do that through the forum or private messaging. If you choose not to respond, that is ok as well, because I feel full at having expressed myself and I am content. You see, most times I am good with insults leveled in my direction (not always) because I am human but like you, the difference is, I KNOW who I am, REALLY. I hope this all makes sense to you.
Fine, fine,... But these women today are NOT using their bodies responsibly, it is they who are creating the social problem of having babies without a male provider, and requiring and demanding either abortion by the millions or Welfare by the trillions. They spawn fatherless children who become responsible for 70% of all violent crime. If the feminists insist their body is their own, they need to demonstrate that thy have rules themselves such that society is not hurt by how they use those bodies.
So? There are various ways to deal with that other than insist that they live according to some wishful thinking 19th century remake of the Victorian era.
